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Message 1524856 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 20:37:41 UTC
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For those that don't know, I'm on an NVIDIA GTX750 TI Superclocked. I have three "Inconclusives" pending and one "Invalid" that was an "Inconclusive"...

Here are the three remaining "Inconclusives":

Exeter - Inconclusive list.

Here is the "Invalid":

Exeter - Invalid list.

I'm concerned that the "Inconclusives" will become "Invalids". Any idea why a new card would have these errors?

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Links fixed - showing "Host" view.

Thanks to Josef
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Message 1524863 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 20:50:11 UTC - in response to Message 1524856.  
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Both those url's are only available for you to view, you need to supply a host view of inconclusives and invalids, rather than a user view of them.

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Message 1524865 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 20:51:43 UTC - in response to Message 1524856.  

For those that don't know, I'm on an NVIDIA GTX750 TI Superclocked. I have three "Inconclusives" pending and one "Invalid" that was an "Inconclusive"...

Here are the three remaining "Inconclusives":

Exeter - Inconclusive list.

Here is the "Invalid":

Exeter - Invalid list.

I'm concerned that the "Inconclusives" will become "Invalids". Any idea why a new card would have these errors?


Note: changed links to hostid, userid doesn't work for anyone but the owner.

The invalid and the 3 inconclusives all show overflow on Spikes. That may be a sign that the power supply isn't able to gracefully handle the very short peak loads which crunching can impose, or some other marginal condition.

When many people were having similar troubles with 560Ti cards, Jason posted http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68151&postid=1240004#1240004 which suggests a range of things to check.
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Message 1524866 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 20:53:22 UTC

Sorry TL but your links arn't working though I'm sure that this is the PC in question.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7301566

You're only getting them inconclusives/invalids on a few cuda42 workunits which really isn't as suitable for that card as cuda50 workunits are.

Are you monitoring the temperature of card?

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Message 1524867 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 20:53:28 UTC - in response to Message 1524863.  
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Both those url's are only available for you to view, you need to supply a host view of inconclusives and invalids, rather than a user view of them.

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How do I accomplish this?

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Disregard this... Links fixed by Josef...
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Message 1524871 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:02:29 UTC - in response to Message 1524865.  

For those that don't know, I'm on an NVIDIA GTX750 TI Superclocked. I have three "Inconclusives" pending and one "Invalid" that was an "Inconclusive"...

Here are the three remaining "Inconclusives":

Exeter - Inconclusive list.

Here is the "Invalid":

Exeter - Invalid list.

I'm concerned that the "Inconclusives" will become "Invalids". Any idea why a new card would have these errors?


Note: changed links to hostid, userid doesn't work for anyone but the owner.

The invalid and the 3 inconclusives all show overflow on Spikes. That may be a sign that the power supply isn't able to gracefully handle the very short peak loads which crunching can impose, or some other marginal condition.

When many people were having similar troubles with 560Ti cards, Jason posted http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=68151&postid=1240004#1240004 which suggests a range of things to check.
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The PSU is a brand new Antec 550 Watt PSU. If it is not able to handle the card; what would you recommend. (NOTE: It is NOT an Antec "Truepower" - would that be better??? What wattage???)
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Message 1524873 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:07:01 UTC


The PSU is a brand new Antec 550 Watt PSU. If it is not able to handle the card; what would you recommend. (NOTE: It is NOT an Antec "Truepower" - would that be better??? What wattage???)

Is that model PSU use a single 12V rail or 2 and does that GTX 750 Ti of yours use an additional power connector?

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Message 1524874 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:09:49 UTC - in response to Message 1524873.  
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The PSU is a brand new Antec 550 Watt PSU. If it is not able to handle the card; what would you recommend. (NOTE: It is NOT an Antec "Truepower" - would that be better??? What wattage???)

Is that model PSU use a single 12V rail or 2 and does that GTX 750 Ti of yours use an additional power connector?

Cheers.


The TI card has no additional connector(s), it only gets power from the PCI-e slot. I don't know if the PSU is single or dual rail, the retail price $69.95 plus tax.

[EDIT]

The box for the PSU states that the PSU has "2 PCI-e connectors"; however, again, the PCI-e card is only getting power from the PCI-e slot.
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Message 1524876 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:13:04 UTC - in response to Message 1524867.  

Both those url's are only available for you to view, you need to supply a host view of inconclusives and invalids, rather than a user view of them.

Unable to handle request

No access


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How do I accomplish this?

You go and look at your hosts:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8363397 or http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php

and choose the url of the effected host:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7301566

Then use the inconclusive filter:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7301566&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

or invalid filter:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7301566&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

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Message 1524877 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:16:58 UTC - in response to Message 1524876.  

Both those url's are only available for you to view, you need to supply a host view of inconclusives and invalids, rather than a user view of them.

Unable to handle request

No access


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How do I accomplish this?

You go and look at your hosts:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8363397 or http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/home.php

and choose the url of the effected host:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7301566

Then use the inconclusive filter:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7301566&offset=0&show_names=0&state=3&appid=

or invalid filter:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=7301566&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Claggy


Thanks Claggy. Host 7301566 is the computer. Also, as previously edited in my original posts, Josef fixed the links. Thanks, again, Josef. :-)
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Message 1524880 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:33:32 UTC - in response to Message 1524874.  


The PSU is a brand new Antec 550 Watt PSU. If it is not able to handle the card; what would you recommend. (NOTE: It is NOT an Antec "Truepower" - would that be better??? What wattage???)

Is that model PSU use a single 12V rail or 2 and does that GTX 750 Ti of yours use an additional power connector?

Cheers.


The TI card has no additional connector(s), it only gets power from the PCI-e slot. I don't know if the PSU is single or dual rail, the retail price $69.95 plus tax.

[EDIT]

The box for the PSU states that the PSU has "2 PCI-e connectors"; however, again, the PCI-e card is only getting power from the PCI-e slot.

On the side of the PSU it will have a power rating sticker listing all the ratings of all its rails, it will show there whether you have 1 or 2 12V rails.

If it has 2 rails and seeing as your card takes all its power from the motherboard then the PSU could be overloading 1 of its rails.

Cheers.
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Message 1524883 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:37:12 UTC - in response to Message 1524880.  


The PSU is a brand new Antec 550 Watt PSU. If it is not able to handle the card; what would you recommend. (NOTE: It is NOT an Antec "Truepower" - would that be better??? What wattage???)

Is that model PSU use a single 12V rail or 2 and does that GTX 750 Ti of yours use an additional power connector?

Cheers.


The TI card has no additional connector(s), it only gets power from the PCI-e slot. I don't know if the PSU is single or dual rail, the retail price $69.95 plus tax.

[EDIT]

The box for the PSU states that the PSU has "2 PCI-e connectors"; however, again, the PCI-e card is only getting power from the PCI-e slot.

On the side of the PSU it will have a power rating sticker listing all the ratings of all its rails, it will show there whether you have 1 or 2 12V rails.

If it has 2 rails and seeing as your card takes all its power from the motherboard then the PSU could be overloading 1 of its rails.

Cheers.


I just confirmed with Central Computers that this PSU has two 12V rails. As you state, it may be overloading one of the rails.

So, what PSU would be recommended for this GTX750 TI Superclocked? Should I go up to a 650 Watt; or, higher than that?
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Message 1524884 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:41:50 UTC - in response to Message 1524883.  
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The PSU is a brand new Antec 550 Watt PSU. If it is not able to handle the card; what would you recommend. (NOTE: It is NOT an Antec "Truepower" - would that be better??? What wattage???)

Is that model PSU use a single 12V rail or 2 and does that GTX 750 Ti of yours use an additional power connector?

Cheers.


The TI card has no additional connector(s), it only gets power from the PCI-e slot. I don't know if the PSU is single or dual rail, the retail price $69.95 plus tax.

[EDIT]

The box for the PSU states that the PSU has "2 PCI-e connectors"; however, again, the PCI-e card is only getting power from the PCI-e slot.

On the side of the PSU it will have a power rating sticker listing all the ratings of all its rails, it will show there whether you have 1 or 2 12V rails.

If it has 2 rails and seeing as your card takes all its power from the motherboard then the PSU could be overloading 1 of its rails.

Cheers.


I just confirmed with Central Computers that this PSU has two 12V rails. As you state, it may be overloading one of the rails.

So, what PSU would be recommended for this GTX750 TI Superclocked? Should I go up to a 650 Watt; or, higher than that?

Just change the PSU to a good brand with a single 12V rail unit (the same wattage will do), ANTEC and Corsair make some good units as I'm sure that many others do. I'd see if Central Computers could do you a deal on a swap.

[edit]Or see if you could exchange that card for 1 of the 1's that do have a PCI-e power connection.

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Message 1524885 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:44:29 UTC - in response to Message 1524884.  


The PSU is a brand new Antec 550 Watt PSU. If it is not able to handle the card; what would you recommend. (NOTE: It is NOT an Antec "Truepower" - would that be better??? What wattage???)

Is that model PSU use a single 12V rail or 2 and does that GTX 750 Ti of yours use an additional power connector?

Cheers.


The TI card has no additional connector(s), it only gets power from the PCI-e slot. I don't know if the PSU is single or dual rail, the retail price $69.95 plus tax.

[EDIT]

The box for the PSU states that the PSU has "2 PCI-e connectors"; however, again, the PCI-e card is only getting power from the PCI-e slot.

On the side of the PSU it will have a power rating sticker listing all the ratings of all its rails, it will show there whether you have 1 or 2 12V rails.

If it has 2 rails and seeing as your card takes all its power from the motherboard then the PSU could be overloading 1 of its rails.

Cheers.


I just confirmed with Central Computers that this PSU has two 12V rails. As you state, it may be overloading one of the rails.

So, what PSU would be recommended for this GTX750 TI Superclocked? Should I go up to a 650 Watt; or, higher than that?

Just get a good brand with a single 12V rail, ANTEC and Corsair make some good units as I'm sure that many others do. I'd see if Central Computers could do you a deal on a swap.

Cheers.


Yes, but what Wattage do you recommend? I'm already using the Antec VP550F 550 Watt PSU... So, where do I go from there; 650 Watt, or higher than that?
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Message 1524888 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 21:47:04 UTC

I did an edit to my last post, but you shouldn't need to go higher unless you later plan on going to a more powerful card.

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Message 1524894 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 22:06:20 UTC - in response to Message 1524888.  

Timelord,

Before you do anything, 1 invalid and 3 inconclusively aren't bad. If you were talking about 20-30 invalids then I could see where there would be concern. I'd wait to see what the inconclusives do. Your power source is more than adequate for that card. Before you spend any more money, wait and see how they do. If they do invalidate, then we can talk about what might have caused a problem. I have 4, 17, 6 inconclusives on each of my computers.

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Message 1524896 - Posted: 5 Jun 2014, 22:18:05 UTC - in response to Message 1524894.  

Timelord,

Before you do anything, 1 invalid and 3 inconclusively aren't bad. If you were talking about 20-30 invalids then I could see where there would be concern. I'd wait to see what the inconclusives do. Your power source is more than adequate for that card. Before you spend any more money, wait and see how they do. If they do invalidate, then we can talk about what might have caused a problem. I have 4, 17, 6 inconclusives on each of my computers.

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+1

and as I pointed out in my 1st post, they are cuda42's and really not the most suitable for that card.

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Message 1524919 - Posted: 6 Jun 2014, 0:58:57 UTC - in response to Message 1524894.  

Timelord,

Before you do anything, 1 invalid and 3 inconclusively aren't bad. If you were talking about 20-30 invalids then I could see where there would be concern. I'd wait to see what the inconclusives do. Your power source is more than adequate for that card. Before you spend any more money, wait and see how they do. If they do invalidate, then we can talk about what might have caused a problem. I have 4, 17, 6 inconclusives on each of my computers.

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I wish your post would have come in sooner, Zalster...

I just got back from Central Computers... I upgraded the PSU to an Antec Truepower/Gold 550 Watt PSU, and upgraded the video card, (based on the last communique by Wiggo), to the GTX760 - (NO TI, NO Superclocked), with a power connector to the PSU...

The system is crunching, again, with the new card; so, I will monitor and report any difficulties.

Again, I'm new to GPU crunching; this is my first go around with it. When I saw a handful of inconclusives and an invalid, I thought there was going to be an ongoing problem; and I wanted to take care of it.

I will wait and see with the GTX760, now, and again, will report anymore inconclusives or invalids.

Wish me luck. :-)
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Message 1524930 - Posted: 6 Jun 2014, 1:20:51 UTC
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You must of missed my first post TL, but you will definitely have a more reliable/stable system now with those beefier rails and both being used (most lower rated dual rail PSU's usually can only put out 18-20amps on each rail).

Though you could've waited a little longer to see if you only got those with the cuda42 work, the server will eventually settle on just sending you cuda50 work in the end.

But good luck anyway.

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Message 1524934 - Posted: 6 Jun 2014, 1:35:55 UTC - in response to Message 1524930.  

You must of missed my first post TL, but you will definitely have a more reliable/stable system now with those beefier rails and both being used (most lower rated dual rail PSU's usually can only put out 18-20amps on each rail).

Though you could've waited a little longer to see if you only got those with the cuda42 work, the server will eventually settle on just sending you cuda50 work in the end.

But good luck anyway.

Cheers.


Thanks Wiggo. I will keep everyone here informed; if I have any more troubles. :-)
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