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Message 1523674 - Posted: 2 Jun 2014, 17:04:36 UTC - in response to Message 1523633.  

No it does not make it any the less true, but your posts over the past several months show nothing but distaste for anything American.

Dear old Maggie got it right - "Before one can request others to clean up their house, one must clean their own first"

You Europhiles hated her with a passion, I wonder why?

Oh not just the Europhiles hated her about half of the UK hates her too. I saw partying on the streets when she died.

And I disagree with that saying completely. So yeah, I'm going to keep talking about why I think the American political situation is a mess, why that is the case and point to things that could improve the situation. In return, they can do the same about the Netherlands or Europe.

And what do you know about my feelings for the United States. All you got are my posts on this forum and most of the posts that are about the US are in response to a few specific individuals and their comments on a few specific topics. Different topics could result in more positive comments.
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Message 1523678 - Posted: 2 Jun 2014, 17:07:46 UTC - in response to Message 1523674.  

You disagree with that saying? Tell us, why is the European political mess any different than that of the US?
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Message 1523716 - Posted: 2 Jun 2014, 17:57:08 UTC - in response to Message 1523572.  

I think you're onto something there, James. It all makes me wonder what would the founding fathers have to say?

Perhaps you guys should concern yourself less with what long dead people would have wanted and more with what people right now want and need.



The part about the founding fathers was really more rhetorical than anything, but I do think it would be interesting to have a "Meeting of the Minds" - that used to be a show on public tv, back in the 70's. The host would hold a dinner party and several historical figures would attend.
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Message 1523881 - Posted: 2 Jun 2014, 22:44:27 UTC

I find it amazing that in the last 100yrs that the voter turnout for the United States presidential elections has hovered between 50-60% for such a so called important position.

I also bet that those who complain about the outcome the loudest probably didn't bother to vote in the first place.

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Message 1523917 - Posted: 3 Jun 2014, 1:36:12 UTC - in response to Message 1523900.  
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I delete stuff I say that is no longer relevant.

Too early to start talking about who the next prez is going to be.

It's going to be fun watching the liberals start throwing temper-tantrums this November when the Republicans take control of the Senate.

They already have control over the senate. That is why nothing can get done.

I am sure the American public are going to be delighted with another 2 years of that. har, har, har. Of course I wonder what sort of person has fun at the expense of the American public.
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Message 1523922 - Posted: 3 Jun 2014, 1:53:49 UTC - in response to Message 1523917.  


They already have control over the senate. That is why nothing can get done.

The Republicans control the House not the Senate.
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Message 1523923 - Posted: 3 Jun 2014, 1:56:20 UTC - in response to Message 1523922.  


They already have control over the senate. That is why nothing can get done.

The Republicans control the House not the Senate.

ok. My bad.

Either way, the American public lose out by a gridlocked government.
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Message 1523924 - Posted: 3 Jun 2014, 1:59:13 UTC - in response to Message 1523900.  

I delete stuff I say that is no longer relevant.

Must be nice to delete your posts after the edit window closes. Just how long is the edit window open for the rest of us?
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Message 1523927 - Posted: 3 Jun 2014, 2:28:33 UTC - in response to Message 1523923.  

Either way, the American public lose out by a gridlocked government.
Every two years the entire House and 1/3 of the Senate is up for reelection; if we don't like the government wait two years.
New Jersey has a senate seat up for election but it is a lock for Cory Booker former mayor of Newark.


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Message 1523931 - Posted: 3 Jun 2014, 3:03:37 UTC - in response to Message 1523923.  

Either way, the American public lose out by a gridlocked government.


That's how the American public vote.

It's also designed to be the checks and balances that prevent dictatorial government.

America places far too much emphasis on the executive branch.
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Message 1523935 - Posted: 3 Jun 2014, 3:43:17 UTC - in response to Message 1523931.  

America places far too much emphasis on the executive branch.

It varies by who is in office and the support of his party. The US Supreme Court has ruled that impeachment is a political process not criminal so it would only take 1/2 the House to impeach but 2/3 the Senate to convict and remove form office. What gave POTUS a lot of power recently was US being attacked. The President has unlimited control of the military for 30 days. He can do much damage in that time.
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Message 1523951 - Posted: 3 Jun 2014, 5:20:47 UTC - in response to Message 1523924.  

I delete stuff I say that is no longer relevant.

Must be nice to delete your posts after the edit window closes. Just how long is the edit window open for the rest of us?

one hour.
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Message 1523983 - Posted: 3 Jun 2014, 8:28:12 UTC - in response to Message 1523935.  

What gave POTUS a lot of power recently was US being attacked. The President has unlimited control of the military for 30 days. He can do much damage in that time.


Yes but the military so far as I know is not a legislative body.

Also, IMHO, it is a hangover from your rebellious independence that your executive is also your commander in chief. How different your country would be if that role sat with the Speaker of the House.
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Message 1524109 - Posted: 3 Jun 2014, 19:22:19 UTC - in response to Message 1524035.  

They already have control over the senate. That is why nothing can get done.


See, this is why there is absolutely no reasonable discussion with you Es. When you make statements like this, all you do is show how little you know about the U.S. and how it's supposed to work.

Yeah, yeah, I was tired and got the Senate mixed up with the House. Even I'm not infallible. Sometimes I call my kids by the wrong names too.

Exactly, what is it that you think our federal government is supposed to get done? And, exactly, how is it supposed to get done?

From what I've seen, its job appears to be to give corporate tax cuts to the best paying lobbyists.

What do you think its job is?

Build infrastructure? Improve the well being of its Citizens through sensible healthcare and housing policies? Provide legal protection for the Citizens across the whole country? Protect the environment? Provide education for everyone? These are things that the private sector simply cannnot do successfully. This is a proven fact. So that's why you have a government.
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Message 1524358 - Posted: 4 Jun 2014, 9:45:39 UTC - in response to Message 1524109.  

Build infrastructure? Improve the well being of its Citizens through sensible healthcare and housing policies? Provide legal protection for the Citizens across the whole country? Protect the environment? Provide education for everyone? These are things that the private sector simply cannnot do successfully. This is a proven fact. So that's why you have a government.

Nah, that is what sane people think the governments job is. Guy and people like him...well, yeah they pretty much think its for giving money to rich people, because otherwise you are 'rewarding failure'.
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Message 1524493 - Posted: 4 Jun 2014, 18:21:22 UTC - in response to Message 1524405.  

On the Democrat side: If not Hillary (Tired Old Person). Who?

Shotgun Joe.


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Chris Christie.
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Message 1524511 - Posted: 4 Jun 2014, 19:07:38 UTC

How about these two...



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...It would be much more interesting for the rest of the world to watch.
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