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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
MK, havn't we made enough holes in Mother Earth taking it out for it to go back into until we need it for something else? <soapbox time>Also if you're going to talk metric then it's called a "tonne" ("tonnes" for plural) when you're talking in kilograms as well, that's a sign of laziness (and I thought you were a good salesman there for a bit, but you ruined that just then), as it separates it from a long from a short ton (or gallons even), but we know where true greed comes from on the later measures (don't we?). It really is about time that the U.S. and the U.K. drop those ridiculous and out of date measures so that yous can get up with the rest (greater majority) of the world. ;-) </soapbox time> Cheers. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Global warming/climate change did NOT start when the industrial revolution began... That is a DA*N LIE. Lie? Then explain this temperature data from 1000 years ago to today. The MAIN problem in all of this is the insanely immense size of the human population... We, as a species, can't afford it any longer. Actually that is a bottom line that is very true. Solutions? I know several but I chose not to mention them... |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
The Nightmare Scenario for Florida’s Coastal Homeowners And all of that could happen before the rising sea consumes a single home. Wondering when the club at Mar-a-Lago, West Palm Beach will be valued at $0. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
MK, havn't we made enough holes in Mother Earth taking it out for it to go back into until we need it for something else? Well, wiggo... If that is your only complaint, I must be going quite a bit better than I thought. Ton... Tonne.... That is a British/US spelling difference... only... Similar to: Color vs. Colour Enterprize vs. Enterprise or, perhaps more to the point Liter vs. Litre We, in the USA, sometimes spell things differently than the Brits do, and that was a purposeful decision made by our Founding Fathers right after the War for Independence. My laziness was in failing to say 'Metric Ton' instead of 'Ton', NOT in leaving the ending 'ne' off of 'ton'. I did not think it would be a source of confusion due to my continued use of units like 'kg', g, m, cm... I apologize for confusing you. s/ton/metric ton/ It really is about time that the U.S. and the U.K. drop those ridiculous and out of date measures so that yous can get up with the rest (greater majority) of the world. ;-) Totally, 100% agree. But then, we get to the problem of exactly WHICH 'metric' system you mean... SI (also known as the MKS (Meter-Kilogram-Second) system)? The CGS (Centimeter-Gram-Second) system? (used by a few sub-disciplines of science) There are others.... the MTS (meter-ton-second) system proposed in the USSR/Russia... but let us restrict ourselves to the main 2. These systems have different names for the derived units... For instance, the unit of 'force'. In the SI/MKS system, the derived unit of force is the Newton... 1 Newton is 1 kilogram-meter per second squared... kg m / s^2... In the CGS system the derived unit of force is the dyne... 1 dyne is 1 gram-centimeter per second squared... g cm / s^2... 1 dyne = 10^(-5) Newton When I was a child, many years ago, I learned all 3 systems (SI/MKS, CGS, and US Customary)... The US Government tried to standardize the US on the SI/MKS, but that fizzled... Way too many people resisted it, many of which were either Parents or School teachers that just couldn't be arsed to learn the 'new' stuff when it was to be taught in school. I have been expecting the US to standardize on the SI/MKS system now for over 45 years now.... but it ain't happened yet. I must admit to a great deal of disappointment and depression over the total backwardness of the US Citizenry in this matter.... The SI is WAY better than the 'US Customary' units... https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE #Texit Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016. Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power. |
KLiK Send message Joined: 31 Mar 14 Posts: 1304 Credit: 22,994,597 RAC: 60 |
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pierre castro Send message Joined: 18 Feb 17 Posts: 86 Credit: 107,398 RAC: 0 |
There's more truth in this, then not: The problem i have with that video is that it's on Facebook, and i don't do Facebook, never will. Still most new technology, hybrid, electric, Solar, wind, mass storage, etc..., all feed into a convergence of zero GHG technologies. The Lynchpin will be a Fusion reactor, the Holy Grail of sustainable energy for humanity. I can say with certainty that we're 25 years closer to a fusion reactor than we were 25 years ago. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
I have been expecting the US to standardize on the SI/MKS system now for over 45 years now.... but it ain't happened yet. From all scientific papers published in US today it seems you already are using the SI system. However in public the US still hang on to measurement units like Fahrenheit and miles. And PSI (pounds per square inches) of course. Until the metering system in 1878 was introduced in Sweden, the "rikslikare" for 1 foot and 1 pound were stored in the Royal Treasury. Btw KLiK. Love that Facebook clip:) Electric cars are more efficient than gas cars, but where do you think that energy comes from? |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
So.............. It seems that my driving my 27yo Cutlass Ciera might actually be doing the planet a favor, eh? Kept in very fine tune, it has been contributing no manufacturing emissions since GM produced it 27 years ago. And yes, when I had the exhaust replaced a few weeks ago, I did have the cat converter done as well. Did not cheat, even though we do not have emissions testing here in Wisconsin. Wouldn't you really rather be driving an Olds? Yup, that's my baby, Toothless. And almost as mint, but silver. Guess I missed out on that cash back deal............by a few years. LOL. Meow. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
So.............. Yes. It's only when you buy a new car to often like buying them perhaps every 10 years the car that they becomes a danger to climate change. Arf:) |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
And I planted 4 new trees to try to offset the destruction my neighbors caused when they tore down 9 trees that were 60 years old. I also gave food to the other fine trees adorning my earthly plot. For I do so love them. What did YOU do to save the planet this week? I am not what you would call a tree-hugger. My loss of those trees devastated me, and for good reason. But that was totally unjustified. I realize that mankind's existence requires a price. But I also realize that there are things that in a small way, add up to make a difference. What have you done this week? Maybe just toss a soda can into the recycle instead of into the trash? Anything at all? "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
pierre castro Send message Joined: 18 Feb 17 Posts: 86 Credit: 107,398 RAC: 0 |
The new 20% duty by the USA on Canadian lumber is a great step towards reducing climate change. The cost of lumber for construction will go up in the USA, and go down in Canada. Less wood will be used, and more trees will be spared from harvest. Hail to the chief meddler. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
A scientific experiment to PROVE that the leaking of harmful greenhouse gases in the Arctic can be slowed. http://siberiantimes.com/other/others/features/urgent-how-you-can-help-bring-back-the-woolly-mammoth-arctic-landscape/ And how you can help. https://youtu.be/MfLwGLSs-Uk |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
A scientific experiment to PROVE that the leaking of harmful greenhouse gases in the Arctic can be slowed. After seeing the pic of Sergey Zimov I thought that I was either looking in a mirror or that I had a long lost twin brother. ;-) Cheers. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
A scientific experiment to PROVE that the leaking of harmful greenhouse gases in the Arctic can be slowed. Here is Sergey. https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/519000/the-russian-scientists-bringing-back-the-ice-age/ There is still hope:) If not the Arctic region will have 4 centigrades warmer winters in only 30 years! That's a FACT! |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20147 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
A scientific experiment to PROVE that the leaking of harmful greenhouse gases in the Arctic can be slowed. EXCELLENT effort and by just ONE isolated family. That sort of inspiration and dedication for PRACTICAL positive action is what may well save us all yet... That and overcoming the corruption of greedy profitable pollution at all costs... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20147 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Just another positive instance for what is happening now in the UK and for what can be done further... As shown by Gridwatch (UK) (despite the bias shown towards fossil fuels...), at the moment the UK electricity is being powered by about 75% NON-fossils. The mix is: Coal: 0% Gas: 26% Nuclear: 23% Wind: 10% Solar: 24% Biomass: 7% Imports: 9% (The imported electricity is from Holland and France which is wind and nuclear. There is also hydro and Ireland import at about 0.5% each.) There is more wind power and solar to come online, despite subsidies being slashed/removed such that oil remains the biggest beneficiary via 'tax breaks' (pollution costs be damned). Here's hoping that where morals and pollution have failed, the cold costs will eventually win. Hopefully not too late... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
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Mr. Kevvy Send message Joined: 15 May 99 Posts: 3776 Credit: 1,114,826,392 RAC: 3,319 |
"Villains" of the recycling world Surprised it wasn't mentioned: In North America, I would say #1 is the one-use coffee pods (most popularly Keurig) for the same reason as Pringles tubes: they are a meld of four dissimilar materials that have to be manually separated to be recycled (aluminum lid and fabric(?) filter bonded to a plastic cup with coffee grounds or tea leaves) so the vast majority of them end up in the trash. Their prevalence in Canadian landfills has been noticed. Keurig is apparently working on a new design. <<shrug>> I just use instant myself. And there are reusable K-cup filters that one adds their own ground coffee to. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11360 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
I fresh grind for every pot of coffee, use a mesh filter and compost the grounds. every thing is recyclable. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Think of all the CO2 to grow the beans, pick the beans, ship the beans, roast the beans, ship the beans, grind the beans, heat the water, decompose the grounds. You could have just had a glass of water. ;-) |
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