Jan what about wind Turbines they still turn in winter and that is where they could be used so I don't think you need 6 months supply only a few days witch they can do with battery's .

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Jan what about wind Turbines they still turn in winter and that is where they could be used so I don't think you need 6 months supply only a few days witch they can do with battery's .

A lot of the wind turbines used around these northern countries get turned off because the wind is too strong, or too variable (gusty). So in times of bad weather we don't green energy because there is no sun either.

Plus some of the best wind generation site in the UK are in northern Scotland but the power is needed in London and the SE. It will take years to sort that problem out because the "die hard greenies" and the people who live there, insist they are sites of outstanding beauty or contain rare species that cannot be disturbed.

So getting a bigger better distribution grid up there, which has to be overhead, because of the geology, is almost impossible.

Theoretically in the UK we should also be putting tidal generators across the Severn Estuary and Morecambe Bay, but no, too much ecological damage.

It will take years to sort that problem out because the "die hard greenies" and the people who live there, insist they are sites of outstanding beauty or contain rare species that cannot be disturbed.

Yes. Everyone like the idea of producing green energy but not on my backyard.

Jan what about wind Turbines they still turn in winter and that is where they could be used so I don't think you need 6 months supply only a few days witch they can do with battery's .

A lot of the wind turbines used around these northern countries get turned off because the wind is too strong, or too variable (gusty). So in times of bad weather we don't green energy because there is no sun either. ...

Strangely enough, with our wild Easter weather downing trees and cranes and scattering aircraft to divert all around England... Bridges closed and trains delayed and all that and...

Looking at the charts, wind + solar look to have steadily powered about 1/3rd of the UK electricity demands for the last four days. Looks like most of the dirty old coal fired power stations were completely turned off for some periods.

Solar + Wind look to be far more robust than the fossilized FUDs might otherwise want you to believe...


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So it should, with its low population density and hours of sunshine per year, over twice the hours of the UK.

It can also be used with wind power . There are now several new estates being built that have community power stations (battery's storage off 1 megawatt or more )recharged with both solar and wind turbines .
So even the U.K will be able to go totally renewable with the use of battery's .
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/4398364.htm
The link is to Catalyst a A.B.C science program all about battery's and there use and why they will be a game changer

Sorry Glenn.
It doesn't work that easy in countries like Britain or Scandinavia as in Australia.
The battery's should be able to store energy (a lot of energy) for at least 6 months before winter season that I doubt that they are capable to do.

As already mentioned, no need for 'six months' of storage... Just 24 hours is enough.

Close to home, there is this interesting example where big batteries are more cost effective than ever bigger power stations and bigger cables:


‘Europe’s largest’ grid storage battery trial goes online in UK

... A 6MW [power] 10MWh [capacity] lithium-ion battery has been installed at a substation in Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire as part of a two-year trial...

... predicted to provide an array of benefits to the wider electricity system by helping reduce capacity constraints and to balance the flexible energy generated by low carbon sources such as solar PV and wind...

... The introduction of energy storage in substations like the one at Leighton Buzzard can decrease the need and cost of traditional reinforcement, such as transformers and cabling...

... predicted that the grid storage project will negate the need for over £6 million of network reinforcement costs [for new grid cables for the town]...


Shame about the abstract grandiose PR waffle in that article. Briefly, that power substation was chosen to house a big battery to avoid the £6 million cost of installing cables to power the peak load for some new housing.

The project is also a good test-bed for the sort of thing that can be done to avoid the need for new cables for the grid to support a more widely distributed supply from widely spread renewables sources.


Engineering for intermittent peak load is rather expensive. Local energy storage is a good big win both for power supply and power demand.


There are good positive ways. How do we kill of the old fossils corruption sooner?...

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US National Snow and Ice Center - Another record low for Arctic sea ice maximum winter extent

has been at a record low for approx. 3 weeks but there is still approx. 2 weeks before the ice starts to melt so you never know there may be a sudden cold snap and dump a heap of snow there ...

Not Likely the current sea ice is much lower than 2012 that year we had a record melt in your summer so expect this summer to be even worse
Get ready for the HEADLINE

NORTH POLE MELTS DOWN TO ONLY 10%

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/ The data

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http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20160316-questioning-electric-vehicles-green-cred

Electric-car drivers are saving the planet, right? Their vehicles produce none of the pollutants that dinosaur-burning, fossil-fuel-powered machines do. That is the standard view, and governments around the world provide incentives to encourage the uptake of this new technology.

That is why a Tesla owner got a rude shock when he went to import his vehicle into Singapore — the first person to do so. Instead of an expected rebate of around S$15,000 (US$10,800) he received a fine of the same amount for being a gross polluter. The Tesla Model S is a 100% electric vehicle. It does not have an exhaust to emit from. So what happened?

The Singapore authorities calculated the ‘carbon cost’ of generating the electricity that will be used to charge the car. This is the elephant in the trunk of electric vehicles. Where and how the power is produced is not often considered, but perhaps it should be.

Finally, someone smart! ;)

Were you smart enough to read the article?...


What that article actually indicates is that for the assumptions they have made, Singapore should get rid of their overly inefficient and polluting coal fire power stations!


Aside: Hydro-power has a good place for power generation when designed and implemented in an environmentally good way. There are some good examples. Unfortunately, there are also some ill conceived big bad examples. As always, there seems to be a very unfortunate game of corruption and ignorance and the planet be damned...


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Electric cars are not "sacred cows"...they also pollute!

Even in my country, that has more than 50% of electricity from renewable resources!

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Warning

Co2 last 3 years for febuary

2014 = 398.1

2015 = 400.31

2016 = 404.16

if the Co2 continue to increase at that rate of
4per year we are in big trouble

This is a increase of 2 ppm on top of the trend of 1.8 ppm witch is where the current rate is

A doubling in 1 year ! ( this type of increase year on year as expressed in 100% ) would mean we would be at 600 in only 20 yrs or less)

Let's hope the extra 2 ppm is a effect of the El Nino witch is now braking up after being the most intence and longest El-Nino's for 20 years or ever

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Current Co2

Daily CO2


April 4, 2016: 406.09 ppm

April 4, 2015: 402.45 ppm

https://www.co2.earth/ web site of figures used

https://scripps.ucsd.edu/programs/keelingcurve/ Scripps Mauna Loa Hawaii data sources

EDIT: The maximum for Co2 at Mauna Loa is reached approx. may 1st give a few days either side of that date

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Something people should watch .

What happens if Antarctica melts and has it melted before and how long ago was it

Are we Entering that Epoch now as the Earth warms up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPEGzPv7quQ&nohtml5=False

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Something people should watch .

What happens if Antarctica melts and has it melted before and how long ago was it

Are we Entering that Epoch now as the Earth warms up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPEGzPv7quQ&nohtml5=False

WHEN, not IF it happens:

What are the present plans of our 'Leaders' to help the worlds populations, industry, agriculture, coming mass starvation, pestilence, etc.?

Answer: None

Makes you think AY!

I'm on a hill 38 meters up on the 3rd floor of a block so approx. 48 meters above sea level or 157 feet so

Cool the beach won't be 2 klm away but 100 meters instead , maybe i'll be able fish off the veranda :)

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No Whey

Thanks for that. Literally polluting waste instead is turned into carbon-neutral fuel:


... Some of the gas will be used to generate electricity on-site, while the remainder will be processed and fed into the local gas grid where it will be used by homes and business for their heating and cooking.

... the total amount of gas being fed into the gas grid each year would be equivalent to the annual gas needs of 4,000 homes.

About 60 per cent of that gas is expected to be taken back out of the grid for the creamery’s own use in steam-making, leaving the equivalent of 1,600 homes’ annual gas usage circulating to homes and businesses in rural Cumbria...


Where there is the interest, there is a whey... :-P

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We can have 100% power without costing Our Earth:


Power plan maps out route to follow for 100% renewable energy future

... ‘homegrown power plan’ means it would be technically feasible and cheaper for Australia to switch from fossil fuels ...

... spells out dozens of policy ideas the two organisations say would achieve a switch to 100% renewable energy while delivering more equitable access to electricity and a fair transition for workers in the fossil-fuel industry.

The groups will lobby politicians to adopt the measures in the lead-up to the federal election.

“The institute for sustainable future research shows it is 100% doable,”...

... “We know the vast majority of Australians want a transition to 100% renewables as fast as possible. Basically the only the thing standing in our way is the fossil-fuel lobby and their friends in parliament.”



If there is a positive will, there is a way...

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Yet our current government would like to drop any involvement with renewable energy and cripple the roll out for "fibre to home" down to "fibre to node" and to old copper after that. ;/(

We're being crippled by stupid conservatives.

Cheers.

Yet our current government would like to drop any involvement with renewable energy and cripple the roll out for "fibre to home" down to "fibre to node" and to old copper after that. ;/(

We're being crippled by stupid conservatives.

Wiggo not long now mate and we can get rid of this fascist Liberal Party . I wonder if the merchant banker has realised that what Shorten is asking for and Turnbull saying no does not look good for the Merchant banker Turnbull .

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We (in Croatia) almost reached a y2020 goal of 20% renewable energy:
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Renewable_energy_statistics
;)

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No Whey

Thanx for the link WK, very innovative.

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