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Message 1669967 - Posted: 25 Apr 2015, 20:20:39 UTC
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Electricity can be recovered from urine. With the help of pee researchers now hope to be able to improve the lighting and thus increase the safety of women in refugee camps.
http://www.dn.se/webb-tv/klipp/nyheter/ditt-kiss-kan-tanda-lampan/
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Message 1670065 - Posted: 25 Apr 2015, 23:16:51 UTC - in response to Message 1669967.  
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Electricity can be recovered from urine. With the help of pee researchers now hope to be able to improve the lighting and thus increase the safety of women in refugee camps.
http://www.dn.se/webb-tv/klipp/nyheter/ditt-kiss-kan-tanda-lampan/
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Thanks for that.

Doing a quick search for that one gave these two examples:


Four young Nigerian girls have invented a generator that runs on urine

The invention was first displayed in Lagos, November, 2012...



University installs prototype 'pee power' toilet

... Students and staff at the Bristol-based University of the West of England are being asked to use the working urinal to feed microbial fuel cell (MFC) stacks that generate electricity to power indoor lighting...



Anyone see what I see as a big problem for the Lagos pee power?...

Meanwhile, the microbial fuel cell looks good so long as the microbes don't get too exuberant on the processed alcohol!


We also have an awful lot a sewerage that can be usefully used...


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Message 1670073 - Posted: 25 Apr 2015, 23:32:42 UTC - in response to Message 1670065.  
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It's very small steps but as the chinese says.
A long journey begins with the first step.
We will see more of it and hopefully the "politicians" will wake up!

Girl Power:)
Four young Nigerian girls have invented a generator that runs on urine.
The system separates urine into nitrogen, water and hydrogen.

Simple solutions are very good but very hard to find...
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Message 1670156 - Posted: 26 Apr 2015, 1:06:09 UTC - in response to Message 1670065.  

only Joking Martin but to answer you question , I see a problem !

Something along the lines of what they did in Fast and Furious 5 when they put the C4 in the pipes at the Cop station , poooooooow what a stench they left, heheheheheheheehehehe
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Message 1670252 - Posted: 26 Apr 2015, 5:58:03 UTC - in response to Message 1670226.  

Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11561629/Top-scientists-start-to-examine-fiddled-global-warming-figures.html

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http://www.tempdatareview.org/
A project of the Global Warming Policy Foundation


Will be interesting. If true.

Ah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) is a think tank in the United Kingdom, whose stated aims are to challenge "extremely damaging and harmful policies" envisaged by governments to mitigate anthropogenic global warming. The Independent describes the foundation as "the UK's most prominent source of climate-change denial".

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Message 1670259 - Posted: 26 Apr 2015, 6:21:05 UTC - in response to Message 1670252.  
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Ah, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Warming_Policy_Foundation
The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) is a think tank in the United Kingdom, whose stated aims are to challenge "extremely damaging and harmful policies" envisaged by governments to mitigate anthropogenic global warming. The Independent describes the foundation as "the UK's most prominent source of climate-change denial".


enough said

what was wrong with the other posts i'm shore Clyde didn't red flag them he knows i'm just playing with him i'm shore .

Edit:ops sorry wrong thread there still there forget the above statement
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Message 1670621 - Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 7:05:15 UTC - in response to Message 1670341.  

The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) is a think tank in the United Kingdom, whose stated aims are to challenge "extremely damaging and harmful policies"


To whom the Petrochemical Company's , The Coal Company's other Masters of Industry maybe !!!!

Top scientists start to examine fiddled global warming figures


people go on about peer review and is not that what they are doing ? peer reviewing the Data !!

So why are people making a big thing outa , a peer review ?

I mite look at your other link later , possibly , kind'a , ....naaaaaa!
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Message 1670717 - Posted: 27 Apr 2015, 13:34:28 UTC
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One solution in the fight against the financial might and lobbying and Marketing corruption of the dirty fuels:


From the carbon bubble to 'dirty energy'

Leaving the "dirty stuff" in the ground is fast becoming the mantra of environmentalists, with the global campaign to move money out of fossil fuels gaining momentum. There is pressure to divest from oil and gas companies on the basis that they represent a "carbon bubble" of overvalued assets...

... studies show that existing fossil fuel reserves are several times greater than can be burned if the world's governments are to fulfil their pledge to keep global warming below the limit of 2 deg C...

... The practical approach is to burn the fossil fuels that are most cost-efficient and least "dirty". But some environmentalists say fossil fuel companies will never play a leading role in any move towards a low-carbon economy...

... One view is that the recent drop in oil prices presents a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for governments to get rid of fossil fuel subsidies and introduce a price on carbon. This generally goes against government thinking and concern over job losses in the oil and gas industry...

[BUT...]



All an immoral game of "pump up the financial bubble" and the polluting fallout and our world and ourselves be damned?...


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Message 1670967 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 2:19:58 UTC - in response to Message 1670723.  

One solution in the fight against the financial might and lobbying and Marketing corruption of the dirty fuels:


From the carbon bubble to 'dirty energy'

Leaving the "dirty stuff" in the ground is fast becoming the mantra of environmentalists, with the global campaign to move money out of fossil fuels gaining momentum. There is pressure to divest from oil and gas companies on the basis that they represent a "carbon bubble" of overvalued assets...

... studies show that existing fossil fuel reserves are several times greater than can be burned if the world's governments are to fulfil their pledge to keep global warming below the limit of 2 deg C...

... The practical approach is to burn the fossil fuels that are most cost-efficient and least "dirty". But some environmentalists say fossil fuel companies will never play a leading role in any move towards a low-carbon economy...

... One view is that the recent drop in oil prices presents a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for governments to get rid of fossil fuel subsidies and introduce a price on carbon. This generally goes against government thinking and concern over job losses in the oil and gas industry...

[BUT...]


All an immoral game of "pump up the financial bubble" and the polluting fallout and our world and ourselves be damned?...


All on our only one planet,
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Clyde If the oil and gas can last another century we don't have another Century
It's just a hypd up version of Consume til we die . There will allways be a market form oil but not to burn it .

Plastic's are made out of oil

Coal on the other Hand ... What is coal ? Carbon , and yet another lie is "lets sequester the carbon and bury it underground "

Ummm what is Coal again and why do we use it . ......ok , i'm a sucker wink wink
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Message 1670989 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 3:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 1670988.  

Glenn...

Attribution regarding 'Energy Resources'?


pardon ????
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Message 1670991 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 3:33:35 UTC

Theories[edit]
Common sense psychology[edit]
From the book The Psychology of Interpersonal Relations(1958), Fritz Heider tried to explore the nature of interpersonal relationship, and espoused the concept of what he called "common sense" or "naïve psychology". In his theory, he believed that people observe, analyze, and explain behaviors with explanations. Although people have different kinds of explanations for the events of human behaviors, Heider found it is very useful to group explanation into two categories; Internal (personal) and external (situational) attributions.[7] When an internal attribution is made, the cause of the given behavior is assigned to the individual's characteristics such as ability, personality, mood, efforts, attitudes, or disposition. When an external attribution is made, the cause of the given behavior is assigned to the situation in which the behavior was seen such as the task, other people, or luck (that the individual producing the behavior did so because of the surrounding environment or the social situation). These two types lead to very different perceptions of the individual engaging in a behavior.[8]
Correspondent inference theory[edit]
Main article: Correspondent inference theory
Correspondent inferences state that people make inferences about a person when his or her actions are freely chosen, are unexpected, and result in a small number of desirable effects.[1] According to Edward E. Jones and Keith Davis’ correspondent inference theory, people make correspondent inferences by reviewing the context of behavior. It describes how people try to find out individual’s personal characteristics from the behavioral evidence. People make inferences on the basis of three factors; degree of choice, expectedness of behavior, and effects of someone’s behaviors.[citation needed]
Covariation model[edit]
Main article: Covariation model
The Covariation model states that people attribute behavior to the factors that are present when a behavior occurs and absent when it does not. Thus, the theory assumes that people make causal attributions in a rational, logical fashion, and that they assign the cause of an action to the factor that co-varies most closely with that action.[9] Harold Kelley's covariation model of attribution looks to three main types of information from which to make an attribution decision about an individual's behavior. The first is consensus information, or information on how other people in the same situation and with the same stimulus behave. The second is distinctive information, or how the individual responds to different stimuli. The third is consistency information, or how frequent the individual's behavior can be observed with similar stimulus but varied situations. From these three sources of information observers make attribution decisions on the individual's behavior as either internal or external.
There are several levels in the covariation model: high and low. Each of these levels influences the three covariation model criteria. High consensus is when many people can agree on an event or area of interest. Low consensus is when very few people can agree. High distinctiveness is when the event or area of interest is very unusual, whereas low distinctness is when the event or area of interest is fairly common. High consistency is when the event or area of interest continues for a length of time and low consistency is when the event or area of interest goes away quickly.[citation needed]
Three-dimensional model[edit]
Bernard Weiner proposed that individuals have initial affective responses to the potential consequences of the intrinsic or extrinsic motives of the actor, which in turn influence future behavior.[10] That is, a person's own perceptions or attributions as to why they succeeded or failed at an activity determine the amount of effort the person will engage in activities in the future. Weiner suggests that individuals exert their attribution search and cognitively evaluate casual properties on the behaviors they experience. When attributions lead to positive affect and high expectancy of future success, such attributions should result in greater willingness to approach to similar achievement tasks in the future than those attributions that produce negative affect and low expectancy of future success.[11] Eventually, such affective and cognitive assessment influences future behavior when individuals encounter similar situations.
Weiner's achievement attribution has three categories:
stable theory (stable and unstable)
locus of control (internal and external)
controllability (controllable or uncontrollable)
Stability influences individuals' expectancy about their future; control is related with individuals' persistence on mission; causality influences emotional responses to the outcome of task.
Bias and errors[edit]
While people strive to find reasons for behaviors, they fall into many traps of biases and errors. As Fritz Heider says, “our perceptions of causality are often distorted by our needs and certain cognitive biases”.[12] The following are examples of attributional biases.



lost me after the first couply of lines mate , psyco babble to me .

made when people where not as educated as we are now .
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Message 1671123 - Posted: 28 Apr 2015, 11:59:43 UTC - in response to Message 1670991.  
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[Lots of highly abstract generalized physocobabble to say...]

lost me after the first couply of lines mate , psyco babble to me .

made when people where not as educated as we are now .

Indeed so.

What I think is trying to be said by all that abstract highfaluting confusion is that people are very poor at acquiring an accurate real-world view of the world around them and are blinded much more strongly by immediate needs and influences.

For example, many people cannot see beyond their Friday paycheck and blow most of that away on their Friday night drinking to then leave themselves starving for the following week. They don't see ahead to the starving bit, or their immediate influence blinds them to any worry for the starving bit...

Similarly so for what I'm suffering now with the "American way of working" whereby there is a mad scramble to meet arbitrary end-of-each-month 'deadlines' whereby you then must spend the following three weeks redoing the previous work to tidy it all up!

Also all described as short term-ism.


Is that now all exemplified with training our present generations with TV soundbites and making twitter twits of them?...

If so, the 'burn-it-now' and 'tomorrow is too far away to worry about' is a corruptly powerful Marketing message for the dirty Fossils to kill us all with...

President Nixon was given clear details for where our climate was being polluted to and the costly impact on the USA and home security. The crunch period was forecast to be about 40 years away from then. Excellent forecast for the information and tools available at the time and remarkably accurate. He chose to leave the problem to his successors and ourselves.


So how to turn the short-term-ism around to something more positive?


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Message 1671511 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 15:54:51 UTC - in response to Message 1671494.  

Challenge yourself with a CO2 diet for 30 days.
https://translate.google.se/translate?sl=sv&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkoldioxidbanta.se%2F&edit-text=

Lets see; i have solar panels, never throw anything edible away, only fly once a year, never buy bottled water, take the bus to work and make my few clothes that fit me last. Not bad going.
Reduce my meat consumption? I don't think so.
Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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Message 1671545 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 17:16:01 UTC - in response to Message 1671511.  
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Reduce my meat consumption? I don't think so.

Me neither. I need B12 vitamins and other vitamins that's not in vegetables.
I don't have solar panels but I live very much like you do.
So I guess I have the right to eat meat.
And the CO2 emissions from producing meat can be dealt with.
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Message 1671547 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 17:23:43 UTC

Marmite is also a good source of B12.
I don't have (and don't want) children, so in environmental terms i could drive a fleet of Range Rovers and still come out ahead.
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Message 1671557 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 17:30:22 UTC - in response to Message 1671547.  

Marmite is also a good source of B12.
I don't have (and don't want) children, so in environmental terms i could drive a fleet of Range Rovers and still come out ahead.

Marmite:) A former brother in law of mine liked that.
I don't Think we have it here.
Best source of B12 is raw liver.
But then Hannibal Lector comes to mind:)
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Message 1671559 - Posted: 29 Apr 2015, 17:32:07 UTC - in response to Message 1671557.  

Marmite is also a good source of B12.
I don't have (and don't want) children, so in environmental terms i could drive a fleet of Range Rovers and still come out ahead.

Marmite:) A former brother in law of mine liked that.
I don't Think we have it here.
Best source of B12 is raw liver.
But then Hannibal Lector comes to mind:)

Get the fava beans and chianti ready. Fshfhfhfhfhh!
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Message 1671772 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 1:40:57 UTC - in response to Message 1671547.  

Marmite is also a good source of B12.


or the Australian version VEGEMITE

hate both of them yuck!
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Message 1671776 - Posted: 30 Apr 2015, 1:53:38 UTC - in response to Message 1671772.  
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Marmite is also a good source of B12.

or the Australian version VEGEMITE
hate both of them yuck!

I know that cows sometimes are getting same problems with B12.
Greenhouse effect?
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