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anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
Our planet was damned the moment money got invented Martin:( David C Korten Imagine an economy in which life is valued more than money and power resides with ordinary people who care about one another, their community, and their natural environment. Saw him interviewed by Thom Hartmann last night... I like his thinking... know which books are going on my christmas list :) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Another success example: Ozone layer showing 'signs of recovery' The ozone layer that shields the earth from cancer-causing ultraviolet rays is showing early signs of thickening after years of depletion... Scientists say the recovery is entirely due to political determination to phase out the man-made CFC gases destroying ozone... We can do things for the good of all after all when there is the appropriate 'impetus'... All on our only one world, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Very brightly significant for such a small device: Invention of blue LEDs wins physics Nobel The 2014 Nobel Prize for physics has been awarded to a trio of scientists in Japan and the US for the invention of blue light emitting diodes (LEDs). ... This enabled a new generation of bright, energy-efficient white lamps, as well as colour LED screens. ... Furthermore, the high-energy blue light could be used to excite phosphorus and directly produce white light - the basis of the next generation of light bulb. ... Today, blue LEDs are found in people's pockets around the world, inside the lights and screens of smartphones. White LED lamps, meanwhile, deliver light to many offices and households. They use much less energy than both incandescent and fluorescent lamps. ... With 20% of the world's electricity used for lighting, it's been calculated that optimal use of LED lighting could reduce this to 4%... That is just for one "tech" example. Shame the politics and finance are not as positive for our world... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
Excellent. Now lets get the price down to 25 cents for a 100 watt bulb equivalent with about 1500 lumens and a 10 watt consumption. Please make it dimmable as well. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Please make it dimmable as well. Aren't LED lights dimable now? |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
If LED bulbs were cheaper, I would upgrade all the bulbs in my house from CFL --> LED NOW.. I like them a LOT. As it is, I am only upgrading LED as the old CFL bulbs 'burn out'... |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Yes LED's are dimable and considering how long they last they are cheaper than incandescent or fluro and are even brighter |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19048 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Excellent. You need to look at the specs for LED lighting. You will find that although the initial cost maybe high(ish) they will re-pay the initial cost in ~3 years under normal usage. And yes there are dimmable versions, including some that come with remote. |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
On Amazon, the Phillips 12.W EnduraLED costs about $30. At a savings of $5.20 per year, it would take about 5.8 years for the LED to pay for itself (if it were used for 3 hours per day). These are 60 watt replacements. This is based on 10 cents/kwh and 3 hour usage per day. So far my experience with alternative lighting has found: Mini fluorescents don't last as long as they say. They take maybe a minute to come up to full brightness and are generally not dimmable. They cost maybe 30 times as much as incandescent and have disposal problems. I find the light from an LED bulb to be too intensely white. The one time I bought LED porch lights I took them back because the light output was too dim. I expect that lumen for lumen there will be bright, dimmable LEDs that have a warmer spectrum and are 4 times more efficient than an incandescent and do not cause radio interference. If they truly last without degradation for many years then they will be my choice for lights that are left on for many hours per day as long as the price comes down appreciably. You see: paying $30 for a sixty watt light bulb that replaces a 25 cent incandescent bulb is an investment that must yield a return. You are paying the OPPORTUNITY cost of that extra $29.75. If they only last twice as long as a fluorescent then they may not payoff in applications where the light is not left on for long times or where instant brightness is not a problem. I am still deploying maybe 60 floodlights in the ceiling of my home many of them are dimmable. I like to have the lumen output of each one being a 150 watt bulb. Currently I can only get 120 watt bulbs. These are incandescents and I get them in bulk from China via an American distributor. I am getting 17 lumens per watt right now: therefore I am looking for long-lasting, dimmable LED, warm (4500 degrees Kelvin)color at about 2100 lumens for about $5.00. These I could make pay and would pony up the investment at the front end. However at $30 or more a pop I will wait a while I am sure. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
If LED bulbs were cheaper, I would upgrade all the bulbs in my house from CFL --> LED NOW.. I like them a LOT. That is likely the best way to go unless you wish to take advantage of the colour spectrum available from the newer LED-phosphur lights. Regardless, they are brightly better than the old hopelessly inefficient incandescents. So much so that the last remaining incandescents are almost being given away for free by the bottom end supermarkets and 'budget shops'. For the LEDs, watch out for some of the price gouging that takes advantage of the gullible who have heard of "LED" but have no clue about lumens... Best is to shop online and check the spec! All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Another success despite dirty coal playing foul and criminally dirty: Dirty Coal shown red card by India’s Supreme Court Greenpeace International and Greenpeace India today welcomed the Indian Supreme Court's landmark decision on the country's coal scam following the Court's cancellation of the licenses of 214 coal blocks... ... The verdict is a victory for the environment and the people of India against rampant corruption and crony capitalism rife in the resource extraction industry... "... Today's ruling calls the bluff on coal's dirty secret and should signal the end of complicity between the state and corporate players. It’s a strong message from the highest court in the country to the government and industry that the laws of the land cannot be circumvented and disregarded. The government has a clear choice – whether to develop a pro-people, pro-green economic model, or stick with corrupt, expensive, dirty energy."... That was achieved despite: Greenpeace urges fair and transparent vote on protection of India’s Mahan forest ... This will be the second vote after Greenpeace India and the local community members exposed clear indications of corruption involving the forgery of votes at last year’s Gram Sabha. (1) In the run-up to the vote, the forest community’s rights have been violated in a systematic clampdown including the intimidation of villagers. This has been accompanied by the seizure of Greenpeace India's communication equipment and the arrests of its activists... Is there hope yet? Or do we really need to go to "war" against the entrenched rampant dirty fossils corruption? All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
William incandescent lights are banned here you can't buy them anymore and that has meant the price has gone down , Maybe if you gov does the same you will see the same thing . |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Are the Dirty Fossils seeing their demise and playing it dirty?... Falling price of solar panels leads utilities to lobby for taxes A year after Spain, the sunniest country in Europe, issued notice of a law forcing solar energy-equipped homes and offices to pay a punitive tax... ... “The utilities are in a death spiral,†he told Reuters by telephone while driving between a pub where he helped set up 120 solar panels... ... In Australia, he said, solar panels have shifted from being a heavily subsidized indulgence for environmentally conscious households to a pragmatic option for businesses wanting certainty about what their costs will be next year... ... Solar photovoltaic panels constitute the fastest growing renewable energy technology in the world since 2000. Global capacity has exploded from 1.5 gigawatts at the turn of the century to 136 gigawatts currently ... the price of solar panels has plummeted 80 percent since 2008... ... the surge in installations of rooftop solar panels is beginning to hit utilities and their business model of charging customers on the basis of consumption. Joined by traditional energy companies, they are lobbying governments to reverse decades of subsidies to green, renewable energy such as solar and, in some cases, to tax them... ... The record for a country installing solar PV in a year was China, in 2013, with 11.3 gigawatts or nearly a third of global installations. China wants 35 gigawatts of solar photovoltaic capacity by 2015 and 100 gigawatts, nearly the entire current world total, by 2020... ... A 60 percent drop in wholesale power prices in six years has forced Germany’s utilities to book billions of euros in writedowns on their coal and gas plant portfolio. “The low power prices are leaving a trail of blood... Royalla solar farm opens as sector faces meltdown ... The irony of a group of foreign Âinvestors toasting such a significant investment in solar at a time when Australia’s renewable industry stares down its own demise... ... the uncertainty around support for the mandated 41,000 gigawatt hours of renewable output, which has until now enjoyed bipartisan backing, has already cost the industry dearly, executives say. With $15 billion of investment on hold and investors and lenders Âimmobilised, the review has created significant sovereign risk for Australia... ... George at Infigen, which has Âfrozen around $2.5 billion worth of Âinvestment while the 'review' is ongoing, has said he may have no option other than to consider legal action against the government... ... Pacific Hydro’s Lane Crockett says he is struggling to understand the rationale of the report which, on one hand, catalogues the benefits of the scheme in terms of long-term impacts on electricity prices, investment and regional job creation, then Ârecommends “killing it†on the other. Meanwhile, beyond the reach of the dirty politics, there are these Spanish projects blazing brightly ABROAD: Morocco gets $519 million World Bank loan for solar power project Morocco has secured a $519 million loan from the World Bank to partly finance two solar power plants with a combined capacity of up to 350 megawatts (MW), the second phase of the 500 MW Ouarzazate project... Gestamp Solar signs $28 million contract with Kuwait Oil for 10 MW PV plant Spain’s Gestamp Solar has signed a $28 million contract with Kuwait Oil Company to build the first utility-scale PV plant in Kuwait. Gestamp Solar, the photovoltaic energy division of Gestamp Renewables, will engineer, construct, operate and oversee maintenance of the 10 MW Umm Gudair Field solar plant... All just a few pieces of what a world-wide plan for clean energy could deliver: Here’s how solar power could outshine all other electricity sources by 2050 Solar power could comprise the largest share of global electricity production by 2050 — and it wouldn’t be expensive to get there. In a report released Monday, the International Energy Administration (IEA) lays out a roadmap to make electricity generation entirely zero-carbon within the next 35 years, with solar power leading the charge... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
martin don't worry mate Mad monk has only got less than 2 more years and then we can kick the Bastas out ! his own b/s is going to crusify him soon as the bugget comes out next year he will be in big trouble seeing as he came to power on B/S . Well fix the budget crisis , which we all now know was a big fat lie . And when he hasn't brought the budget back to surplus as he promised he's GONSKI And the budget is going to be very bad and he won't have anybody to blame but himself for it . Once labor get back in the solar industry will bounce back with gusto . |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19048 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
As any climate change will affect the supply of water, here's a novel way of saving it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-29552557 |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
As any climate change will affect the supply of water, here's a novel way of saving it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-29552557 I must admit i already do. I'm considerate enough to not pee in other peoples showers, but in mine it's my rules. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Simon you do realize you said that in a public place and now anybody that stays at you place is going to ask you to disinfect the shower and insist they shower first . |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
And so on to disinfecting one piece of what I consider to be poisonous advertising: How LEGO got awesome to #SaveTheArctic Today we got the awesome news: after a three-month campaign supported by more than a million people worldwide, LEGO has announced it will not renew its contract with Arctic destroyer Shell. This is fantastic news for LEGO fans and Arctic defenders everywhere. And it’s a huge blow to Shell’s strategy of partnering with beloved brands to clean up its dirty image... Perhaps positive change is possible? All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
And so on to disinfecting one piece of what I consider to be poisonous advertising: Are they still buying their crude to make their plastic? |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
... Perhaps positive change is possible? EXACTLY so! Thanks for that reminder: Oil is far far too valuable to burn. All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
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