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Message 1518219 - Posted: 19 May 2014, 14:56:05 UTC
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  • Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
    every rocket fired signifies, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
    those who are cold and not clothed.
    This world in arms is not spending money alone.
    It is spending the sweat of its laborers,
    the genius of its scientists,
    the hopes of its children.

  • Dwight D. Eisenhower, 34th president of US of A -- 1953-1961

    From a speech before the:
    American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 16, 1953


  • To what purpose should I trouble myself in searching out the secrets of the stars, having death or slavery continually before my eyes?

  • A question put to Pythagoras by Anaximenes ( 600 B.C.), according to Montaigne

    How vast those Orbs must be, and how inconsiderable this Earth, the Theatre upon which all our mighty Designs, all our
    Navigations, and all our Wars are transacted, is when compared to them. A very fit consideration, and matter of Reflection, for
    those Kings and Princes who sacrifice the Lives of so many People, only to flatter their Ambition in being Masters of some pitiful
    corner of this small Spot.

  • Christiaan Huygens, New Conjectures Concerning the Planetary Worlds, Their Inhabitants and Productions, 1690

    To the entire world, added our Father the Sun, I give my light and my radiance; I give men warmth when they are cold; I cause
    their fields to fructify and their cattle to multiply; each day that passes I go around the world to secure a better knowledge of
    men’s needs and to satisfy those needs. Follow my example.’

  • An Inca myth recorded in ‘The Royal Commentaries’ of Garcilaso de la Vega, 1556

  • A new consciousness is developing
    on planet Earth which
    sees the Earth as a single organism
    and recognizes that an organism
    at war with itself is doomed.

  • History is full of people who out of fear
    or ignorance or the lust for power
    have destroyed treasures of immeasurable value
    which truly belong to all of us

  • We must not let it happen again!

  • we know who speaks for the nations but

  • who speaks for planet earth ?

  • who speaks for the human species ?

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Message 1518238 - Posted: 19 May 2014, 15:34:03 UTC - in response to Message 1518219.  


  • Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
    every rocket fired signifies, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
    those who are cold and not clothed.
    This world in arms is not spending money alone.
    It is spending the sweat of its laborers,
    the genius of its scientists,
    the hopes of its children.

  • Dwight D. Eisenhower,
    From a speech before the:
    American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 16, 1953

  • 34th president of US 1953-1961 (1890 - 1969)

  • To what purpose should I trouble myself in searching out the secrets of the stars, having death or slavery continually before my eyes?

  • A question put to Pythagoras by Anaximenes ( 600 B.C.), according to Montaigne

    How vast those Orbs must be, and how inconsiderable this Earth, the Theatre upon which all our mighty Designs, all our
    Navigations, and all our Wars are transacted, is when compared to them. A very fit consideration, and matter of Reflection, for
    those Kings and Princes who sacrifice the Lives of so many People, only to flatter their Ambition in being Masters of some pitiful
    corner of this small Spot.

  • Christiaan Huygens, New Conjectures Concerning the Planetary Worlds, Their Inhabitants and Productions, 1690

    To the entire world, added our Father the Sun, I give my light and my radiance; I give men warmth when they are cold; I cause
    their fields to fructify and their cattle to multiply; each day that passes I go around the world to secure a better knowledge of
    men’s needs and to satisfy those needs. Follow my example.’

  • An Inca myth recorded in ‘The Royal Commentaries’ of Garcilaso de la Vega, 1556

  • A new consciousness is developing
    on planet Earth which
    sees the Earth as a single organism
    and recognizes that an organism
    at war with itself is doomed.

  • History is full of people who out of fear
    or ignorance or the lust for power
    have destroyed treasures of immeasurable value
    which truly belong to all of us

  • We must not let it happen again!

  • we know who speaks for the nations but

  • who speaks for planet earth ?

  • who speaks for the human species ?



I wish I knew Byron. Lovely, thought provoking post. Thank you. :)

In a world run on greed... it may take someone with some... how can I put it... radical thinking...?



Perhaps a touch too radical...? :)
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Message 1518465 - Posted: 19 May 2014, 22:35:04 UTC - in response to Message 1518238.  


  • Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
    every rocket fired signifies, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
    those who are cold and not clothed.
    This world in arms is not spending money alone.
    It is spending the sweat of its laborers,
    the genius of its scientists,
    the hopes of its children.

  • Dwight D. Eisenhower, 34th president of US 1953-1961

    From a speech before the:
    American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 16, 1953

  • To what purpose should I trouble myself in searching out the secrets of the stars, having death or slavery continually before my eyes?

  • A question put to Pythagoras by Anaximenes ( 600 B.C.), according to Montaigne

    How vast those Orbs must be, and how inconsiderable this Earth, the Theatre upon which all our mighty Designs, all our
    Navigations, and all our Wars are transacted, is when compared to them. A very fit consideration, and matter of Reflection, for
    those Kings and Princes who sacrifice the Lives of so many People, only to flatter their Ambition in being Masters of some pitiful
    corner of this small Spot.

  • Christiaan Huygens, New Conjectures Concerning the Planetary Worlds, Their Inhabitants and Productions, 1690

    To the entire world, added our Father the Sun, I give my light and my radiance; I give men warmth when they are cold; I cause
    their fields to fructify and their cattle to multiply; each day that passes I go around the world to secure a better knowledge of
    men’s needs and to satisfy those needs. Follow my example.’

  • An Inca myth recorded in ‘The Royal Commentaries’ of Garcilaso de la Vega, 1556

  • A new consciousness is developing
    on planet Earth which
    sees the Earth as a single organism
    and recognizes that an organism
    at war with itself is doomed.

  • History is full of people who out of fear
    or ignorance or the lust for power
    have destroyed treasures of immeasurable value
    which truly belong to all of us

  • We must not let it happen again!

  • we know who speaks for the nations but

  • who speaks for planet earth ?

  • who speaks for the human species ?



I wish I knew Byron. Lovely, thought provoking post. Thank you. :)

In a world run on greed... it may take someone with some... how can I put it... radical thinking...?



Perhaps a touch too radical...? :)

not at all Annie thank you for your post :)
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Message 1518739 - Posted: 20 May 2014, 13:54:47 UTC - in response to Message 1502789.  

Why would we look for solutions in one person when one person did not create the problems?

You want to fix things make sure the people you do put in charge are representative of the people i.e. not all rich white men. Bar anyone with psychopathic tendencies from any position of power. Ensure that those in charge can be removed easily and that they know how to listen to experts.

Personally I think we should chose all our leaders from elementary school teachers.

I like that idea I agree with Es99.
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Message 1519779 - Posted: 22 May 2014, 15:31:26 UTC


  • A new consciousness is developing
    on planet Earth which
    sees the Earth as a single organism
    and recognizes that an organism
    at war with itself is doomed.

  • History is full of people who out of fear
    or ignorance or the lust for power
    have destroyed treasures of immeasurable value
    which truly belong to all of us

  • We must not let it happen again!

  • we know who speaks for the nations but

  • who speaks for planet earth ?

  • who speaks for the human species ?

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Message 1519831 - Posted: 22 May 2014, 16:50:51 UTC - in response to Message 1519779.  

* who speaks for planet earth ?

The Earth speaks for herself.

Numbers 26:10
And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up...

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Message 1520609 - Posted: 24 May 2014, 14:53:50 UTC
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Every thinking person fears nuclear war, and every technological state plans for it. Everyone knows it
is madness, and every nation has an excuse. There is a dreary chain of causality: The Germans were working
on the bomb at the beginning of World War II; so the Americans had to make one first: If the Americans had
one, the Soviets had to have one, and then the British, the French, the Chinese, the Indians, the Pakistanis. . .
By the end of the twentieth century many nations had collected nuclear weapons. They were easy to devise.
Fissionable material could be stolen from nuclear reactors. Nuclear weapons became almost a home handicraft industry.

  • A new consciousness is developing
    on planet Earth which
    sees the Earth as a single organism
    and recognizes that an organism
    at war with itself is doomed.

  • History is full of people who out of fear
    or ignorance or the lust for power
    have destroyed treasures of immeasurable value
    which truly belong to all of us

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Message 1520620 - Posted: 24 May 2014, 15:27:10 UTC
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The conventional bombs of World War II were called blockbusters. Filled with twenty tons of TNT, they could destroy a city block. All the bombs dropped on all the cities in World War II amounted to some two million tons, two megatons, of TNT - Coventry and Rotterdam, Dresden and Tokyo, all the death that rained from the skies between 1939 and 1945: a hundred thousand blockbusters, two megatons. By the late twentieth century, two megatons was the energy released in the explosion of a single more or less humdrum thermonuclear bomb: one bomb with the destructive force of the Second World War. But there are tens of thousands of nuclear weapons. By the ninth decade of the twentieth century the strategic missile and bomber forces of the Soviet Union and the United States were aiming warheads at over 15,000 designated targets. No place on the planet was safe. The energy contained in these weapons, genies of death patiently awaiting the rubbing of the lamps, was far more than 10,000 megatons - but with the destruction concentrated efficiently, not over six years but over a few hours, a blockbuster for every family on the planet, a World War II every second for the length of a lazy afternoon.
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Message 1520645 - Posted: 24 May 2014, 17:41:36 UTC - in response to Message 1520609.  

If the Americans had one, the Soviets had to have one, and then the British, the French, the Chinese, the Indians, the Pakistanis. . .

India and Pakistan but not Canada oh my. Don't worry, "The Great Satan" will invoke the Monroe Doctrine to protect you people from Asians.
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Message 1520757 - Posted: 24 May 2014, 23:07:35 UTC - in response to Message 1520714.  

Can we now end our nationalistic rants?

Yes please do.
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Message 1520761 - Posted: 24 May 2014, 23:13:53 UTC

How would we explain the global arms race to a dispassionate extraterrestrial observer? How would we justify the most recent destabilizing developments of killer-satellites, particle beam weapons, lasers, neutron bombs, cruise missiles, and the proposed conversion of areas the size of modest countries to the enterprise of hiding each intercontinental ballistic missile among hundreds of decoys? Would we argue that ten thousand targeted nuclear warheads are likely to enhance the prospects for our survival? What account would we give of our stewardship of the planet Earth? We have heard the rationales offered by the nuclear superpowers. We know who speaks for the nations.
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Message 1520764 - Posted: 24 May 2014, 23:29:14 UTC - in response to Message 1502641.  
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A nice thought Byron, but you are wasting your time in this forum. All you will get here (as shown above) is people taking advantage of your thread to advance their own pet theories. They do this here because anyplace else they would have long ago been told to shut up, pack up, and move on.

Probably but I'm beginning to see why Chris left.

I'm an optimistic person by nature so I'm hoping someone will have an answer.
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Message 1520769 - Posted: 24 May 2014, 23:51:12 UTC

A new consciousness is developing
on planet Earth which
sees the Earth as a single organism
and recognizes that an organism
at war with itself is doomed.


Our Reptilian Brain 'is' Battling('at war with') The Brain Grown Around 'it'. There will not be A New Consciousness Developed until Reptilian Brain is gone. Only Long Time Scale Evolution or Genetic Surgery not yet invented or Drugs can do this.

Conscious Thought cannot.

Pretty Words BLH. Words Are Wind. Good 'Thoughtful' intentions Less.

The Whole World can Speak, Think and Act as You Do and There Will Still Be Horrifics. Global Horrifics.

Got Realities?

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1520771 - Posted: 24 May 2014, 23:54:18 UTC
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The global balance of terror, pioneered by the United States and Russia, holds hostage the citizens of the Earth. Each side draws limits on the permissible behavior of the other. The potential enemy is assured that if the limit is transgressed, nuclear war will follow. However, the definition of the limit changes from time to time. Each side must be quite confident that the other understands the new limits. Each side is tempted to increase its military advantage, but not in so striking a way as seriously to alarm the other. Each side continually explores the limits of the other’s tolerance, as in flights of nuclear bombers over the Arctic wastes; the Cuban missile crisis; the testing of anti-satellite weapons; the Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq wars - a few entries from a long and dolorous list. The global balance of terror is a very delicate balance. It depends on things not going wrong, on mistakes not being made, on the reptilian passions not being seriously aroused.
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Message 1520838 - Posted: 25 May 2014, 2:52:59 UTC - in response to Message 1520771.  

The global balance of terror, pioneered by the United States and Russia, holds hostage the citizens of the Earth. Each side draws limits on the permissible behavior of the other. The potential enemy is assured that if the limit is transgressed, nuclear war will follow. However, the definition of the limit changes from time to time. Each side must be quite confident that the other understands the new limits. Each side is tempted to increase its military advantage, but not in so striking a way as seriously to alarm the other. Each side continually explores the limits of the other’s tolerance, as in flights of nuclear bombers over the Arctic wastes; the Cuban missile crisis; the testing of anti-satellite weapons; the Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq wars - a few entries from a long and dolorous list. The global balance of terror is a very delicate balance. It depends on things not going wrong, on mistakes not being made, on the reptilian passions not being seriously aroused.

And what may I ask would the wolrd be like if the US had'nt taken a stand and let the Soviets run rough shod over the rest of the world?
Granted that the US is not so innocent on how we have treated the world either.
You have one choice, Soviet or the US way?
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Message 1533868 - Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 5:35:24 UTC

Hi everyone peace and kindness to you all. Try to be cheerful strive to be happy and do a kind deed for a poor pearson down on his or her luck God bless you all -> from -> Byron
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Hi everyone peace and kindness to you all. Try to be cheerful strive to be happy and do a kind deed for a poor pearson down on his or her luck God bless you all -> from -> Byron


Hi Byron! :) So nice to see you!!! :)
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Message 1533892 - Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 6:17:16 UTC

Why does the human race need a spokesperson?
Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...
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Message 1533924 - Posted: 30 Jun 2014, 8:10:42 UTC

Every thinking person fears nuclear war, and every technological state plans for it. Everyone knows it
is madness, and every nation has an excuse. There is a dreary chain of causality: The Germans were working
on the bomb at the beginning of World War II; so the Americans had to make one first: If the Americans had
one, the Soviets had to have one, and then the British, the French, the Chinese, the Indians, the Pakistanis. . .
By the end of the twentieth century many nations had collected nuclear weapons. They were easy to devise.
Fissionable material could be stolen from nuclear reactors. Nuclear weapons became almost a home handicraft industry.

  • A new consciousness is developing
    on planet Earth which
    sees the Earth as a single organism
    and recognizes that an organism
    at war with itself is doomed.

  • History is full of people who out of fear
    or ignorance or the lust for power
    have destroyed treasures of immeasurable value
    which truly belong to all of us



We must not let it happen again!

we know who speaks for the nations
but .............

who speaks for planet earth ?

who speaks for the human species ?

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