There was a game? LOL!

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

on 1 of July 2014 James Sotherden wrote the following:

Part of the appeal for me about the movie Independence day. Is that when we stupid humans are at risk of being wiped out. We unite and fight back as one species. Its a nice dream .
After the pieces are put back together. Wed go back to hateing and killing each other. That seems to be what we do best. Our technologies advance beacuse we fund and find better ways to kill each other.

I thought after the cold war ended, That yes maybe we have turned a corner for world peace. That pipe dream didnt last to long. I think the world is more dangerous now then back in the cold war.

We humans are capable of such marvelous things, And also the most hidious.

Hi James,

I agree with you ... Good post and thank you so much.

Just think what we humans could do if all the Nations of the planet earth lived in co-operation with each other :)

Best Wishes
Byron

Best Wishes
Byron

what do think about Carl Sagan's words - (quoted below) - written 34 years ago - (1980) ??


the following Copy and Paste is from Carl Sagan's 1980 Book - "Cosmos"

Shortly after release, Cosmos became the best-selling science book ever published in the English language, and was the first science book to sell more than half a million copies.

As the ancient myth makers knew, we humans are children equally of the earth and the sky. In our tenure on this planet we humans have accumulated dangerous evolutionary baggage, propensities for aggression and ritual, submission to leaders, hostility to outsiders, all of which puts our survival in some doubt. But we've also acquired compassion for others, love for our children, a desire to learn from history and experience and a great soaring passionate intelligence, the clear tools for our continued survival and prosperity. Which aspects of our nature will prevail is uncertain, particularly when our visions and prospects are bound to one small part of the small planet Earth. But up there in the Cosmos an inescapable perspective awaits.

National boundaries are not evident when we view the Earth from space. Fanatical ethnic or religious or national chauvinisms are a little difficult to maintain when we see our planet as a fragile blue crescent fading to become an inconspicuous point of light against the bastion and citadel of the stars. There are not yet any obvious signs of extraterrestrial intelligence and this makes us wonder whether civilizations like ours always rush implacably, headlong, toward self-destruction. our global civilisation is clearly on the edge of failure and the most important task we humans faces is preserving the lives and well-being of its citizens and the future habitability of the planet.

But if we're willing to live with the growing likelihood of nuclear war, shouldn't we also been willing to explore vigorously every possible means to prevent nuclear war, Shouldn't we consider in every nation major changes in the traditional ways of doing things? a fundamental restructuring of: economic, political, social, and religious institutions.

We've reached a point where there can be no more special interests or special cases, nuclear arms threaten every person on the Earth. Fundamental changes in society are sometimes labelled impractical or contrary to human nature, as if nuclear war were practical or as if there's only one human nature.

But fundamental changes can clearly be made we're surrounded by them. In the last two centuries abject slavery which was with us for thousands of years has almost entirely been eliminated in a stirring worldwide revolution. Women, systematically mistreated for millennia are gradually gaining the political and economic power traditionally denied them and some wars of aggression have recently been stopped or curtailed because of a revulsion felt by the people in the aggressor nations. The old appeals to racial, sexual, religious, chauvinism, and to rabid nationalist fervor are beginning not to work.

A new consciousness is developing on planet Earth which sees the Earth as a single organism and recognizes that an organism at war with itself is doomed. History is full of people who out of fear or ignorance or the lust for power have destroyed treasures of immeasurable value which truly belong to all of us We must not let it happen again! we know who speaks for the nations but who speaks for planet earth ? who speaks for the human species ?

Carl Sagan 1980

the above Copy and Paste is from Carl Sagan's 1980 Book - "Cosmos"

Shortly after release, Cosmos became the best-selling science book ever published in the English language, and was the first science book to sell more than half a million copies.

read more about Carl Sagan here:

http://www.carlsagan.com/

what do think about Carl Sagan's words - (quoted above) - written 34 years ago - (1980) ??

the lust for power have destroyed treasures of immeasurable value which truly belong to all of us We must not let it happen again!

Describes IndonesianHustlin'PeacePrizin'Hussein to a Tee.

Pitiful has Started More Wars and Scandals than any Other Prez in History. Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq(after troop withdrawl), Crimea, Ukraine, S. Sudan, other Afrikan Countries, and HIS Lack of Leadership continues On going Wars throughout the Vrold.

HIS Lust for Power, Golf, Fund Raising, Beer and Peace is Destroying Countless Treasures.

Yep. fO shO

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

what do think about Carl Sagan's words -(quoted below) - written 34 years ago - (1980) ??

the following Copy and Paste is from Carl Sagan's 1980 Book - "Cosmos"

The yield of the Hiroshima bomb was only thirteen kilotons, the equivalent of thirteen thousand tons of TNT. The Bikini test yield was fifteen megatons. In a full nuclear exchange, in the paroxysm of thermonuclear war, the equivalent of a million Hiroshima bombs would be dropped all over the world. At the Hiroshima death rate of some hundred thousand people killed per equivalent thirteen-kiloton weapon, this would be enough to kill a hundred billion people. But there were less than five billion people on the planet in the late twentieth century. Of course, in such an exchange, not everyone would be killed by the blast and the firestorm, the radiation and the fallout - although fallout does last for a longish time: 90 percent of the strontium 90 will decay in 96 years; 90 percent of the cesium 137, in 100 years; 90 percent of the iodine 131 in only a month.

The global balance of terror, pioneered by the United States and Rusia, holds hostage the citizens of the Earth. Each side draws limits on the permissible behavior of the other. The potential enemy is assured that if the limit is transgressed, nuclear war will follow. However, the definition of the limit changes from time to time. Each side must be quite confident that the other understands the new limits. Each side is tempted to increase its military advantage, but not in so striking a way as seriously to alarm the other. Each side continually explores the limits of the other’s tolerance, as in flights of nuclear bombers over the Arctic wastes; the Cuban missile crisis; the testing of anti-satellite weapons; the Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq wars - a few entries from a long and dolorous list. The global balance of terror is a very delicate balance. It depends on things not going wrong, on mistakes not being made, on the reptilian passions not being seriously aroused.

How would we explain the global arms race to a dispassionate extraterrestrial observer? How would we justify the most recent destabilizing developments of killer-satellites, particle beam weapons, lasers, neutron bombs, cruise missiles, and the proposed conversion of areas the size of modest countries to the enterprise of hiding each others intercontinental ballistic missile among hundreds of decoys? Would we argue that ten thousand targeted nuclear warheads are likely to enhance the prospects for our survival? What account would we give of our stewardship of the planet Earth? We have heard the rationales offered by the nuclear superpowers. We know who speaks for the nations.Carl Sagan 1980

what do think about Carl Sagan's words -(quoted above) - written 34 years ago - (1980) ??

the above is a Copy and Paste is from Carl Sagan's 1980 Book - "Cosmos"

http://www.carlsagan.com/

what do think about Carl Sagan's words written 34 years ago - (1980) ??

Byron - Carl Sagan is one of my heroes! :) His words resonate just as relevantly in today's world as they did decades ago when he wrote them. Perhaps study of his works should be a compulsory requirement for all the world's politicians before they're ever allowed to take public office. It would do no harm, and might do us all, a lot of good...

Annie wrote the following:

Byron - Carl Sagan is one of my heroes! :) His words resonate just as relevantly in today's world as they did decades ago when he wrote them. Perhaps study of his works should be a compulsory requirement for all the world's politicians before they're ever allowed to take public office. It would do no harm, and might do us all, a lot of good...

thank you Annie
Best Wishes
Byron


what do think about Dwight D. Eisenhower - Republican President of The United States of America words -(quoted below) - written 60 years ago - 1953 ??

[quote]

• Every gun that is made, every warship launched,
  every rocket fired signifies, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed,
  those who are cold and not clothed.
  This world in arms is not spending money alone.
  It is spending the sweat of its laborers,
  the genius of its scientists,
  the hopes of its children.
  
  
• Dwight D. Eisenhower,
  From a speech before the:
  American Society of Newspaper Editors, April 16, 1953
  
  Dwight D. Eisenhower - 1953
  
  
• 34th president of US 1953-1961 (1890 - 1969)
  
  

During the Eight Years of Ike, Nukes were being produced Like Candy. Ike was Full of Shat. However, HE did Protect US with HIS Actions. Historically Behind The Scenes. Something Hustlin'Hussein IS NOT Doing.

Words Are Wind - Game of Thrones

Action Speaks Louder than Words.

Too Many Excuses.

No Actions.

'Cept The Wrong Ones.

Give Me Give Me Give Me

Take Take Take by The Give Me Crowds.

WORK

Do 'it'.

Work 'it'.

Keep your Mouth Shut and Sweat.

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who speaks for planet earth? who speaks for the human species?

the following is a Copy and Paste from Carl Sagan's Book - Cosmos

Carl Sagan asked the following question

we know who speaks for the nations. But who speaks for planet earth ? who speaks for the human species ?

the following Words were writen - 23 Years ago

COSMOS

The story of fifteen billion years of cosmic evolution transforming matter and life into consciousness, of how science and civilization grew up together, and of the forces and individuals who helped shape modern science. A story told with Carl Sagan’s remarkable ability to make scientific ideas both comprehensible and exciting, based on his acclaimed television series.

In love with whole numbers, the Pythagoreans believed all things could be derived from them, certainly all other numbers. A crisis in doctrine arose when they discovered that the square root of two (the ratio of the diagonal to the side of a square) was irrational, that it cannot be expressed accurately as the ratio of any two whole numbers, no matter how big these numbers are. Ironically this discovery (reproduced
in Appendix 1) was made with the Pythagorean theorem as a tool. ‘Irrational’ originally meant only that a number could not be expressed as a ratio.

But for the Pythagoreans it came to mean something threatening, a hint that their world view might not make sense, which is today the other meaning of ‘irrational.’ Instead of sharing these important mathematical discoveries, the Pythagoreans suppressed knowledge of the square root of two and the dodecahedron. The outside world was not to know.* Even today there are scientists opposed to the popularization of science: the sacred knowledge is to be kept within the cult, unsullied by public understanding.

* A Pythagorean named Hippasus published the secret of the ‘sphere with twelve pentagons’, the dodecahedron. When he later died in a shipwreck, we are told, his fellow Pythagoreans remarked on the justice of the punishment. His book has not survived. The pros and cons of the Pythagorean tradition can be seen clearly in the life’s work of Johannes Kepler (Chapter 3). The Pythagorean idea of a perfect and mystical world, unseen by the senses, was readily accepted by the early Christians and was an integral component of Kepler’s early training.

On the one hand, Kepler was convinced that mathematical harmonies exist in nature (he wrote that ‘the universe was stamped with the adornment of harmonic proportions’); that simple numerical relationships must determine the motion of the planets. On the other hand, again following the Pythagoreans, he long believed that only uniform circular motion was admissible.

He repeatedly found the observed planetary motions could not be explained in this way, and repeatedly tried again. But unlike many Pythagoreans, he believed in observations and experiment in the real world. Eventually the detailed observations of the apparent motion of the planets forced him to abandon the idea of circular paths and to realize that planets travel in ellipses. Kepler was both inspired in his search for the harmony of planetary motion and delayed for more than a decade by the attractions of Pythagorean doctrine.

Carl Sagan

the above Quote is a Copy and Paste from Carl Sagan's Book Cosmos

read more about Carl Saga here:

http://www.carlsagan.com/

the above Words in the Copy and Paste quote were writen - 23 Years ago

so my question still remains ???????????

we know who speaks for the nations. But who speaks for planet earth? who speaks for the human species?

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Thanks for the excerpt Byron, again :) It was actually through Carl Sagan that I first learned just how dodgy Pythagorus's "theories" were, once you stepped back from his mathematics.

As to your quote from Eisenhower - the sentiments expressed in them are to be commended :) Sadly, his inner man perhaps did not get enough of a say in public office, swayed in a world that had gone mad with nuclear frenzy...

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Have you tried Medical Marijuana?

Get The Weed Straight from dat Special Plot in The Rose Garden, White HOThOuse, DC USA.

Like Our Pitiful do. It's good to be da Prez. Wanna hit?

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

Thanks for the excerpt Byron, again :) It was actually through Carl Sagan that I first learned just how dodgy Pythagorus's "theories" were, once you stepped back from his mathematics.

As to your quote from Eisenhower - the sentiments expressed in them are to be commended :) Sadly, his inner man perhaps did not get enough of a say in public office, swayed in a world that had gone mad with nuclear frenzy...

thanks Annie well sad, I appreciate your Post :)

::waves::

Best Wishes
Byron

As to your quote from Eisenhower - the sentiments expressed in them are to be commended :) Sadly, his inner man perhaps did not get enough of a say in public office, swayed in a world that had gone mad with nuclear frenzy...

Eisenhower's "inner man" had Pvt. Eddie Slovik executed for not wanting to kill other human beings. That law is still on the books BTW.

Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)
ART. 85. DESERTION
Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death...

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As to your quote from Eisenhower - the sentiments expressed in them are to be commended :) Sadly, his inner man perhaps did not get enough of a say in public office, swayed in a world that had gone mad with nuclear frenzy...

Eisenhower's "inner man" had Pvt. Eddie Slovik executed for not wanting to kill other human beings. That law is still on the books BTW.

Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)
ART. 85. DESERTION
Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death...

:( As I was saying... world gone mad :( It was the general consensus worldwide to do precisely that to "deserting" soldiers. Now... many countries know better... not all of their citizens do though... evidenced by the law still being on your statute books :(

:( As I was saying... world gone mad :( It was the general consensus worldwide to do precisely that to "deserting" soldiers. Now... many countries know better... not all of their citizens do though. :(

Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, remember him, could conceivably be executed. You are very lucky to be able to look at the wold from an ivory tower.

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:( As I was saying... world gone mad :( It was the general consensus worldwide to do precisely that to "deserting" soldiers. Now... many countries know better... not all of their citizens do though. :(

Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, remember him, could conceivably be executed.

Of course I remember him... being dragged backwards and forwards around the forum. I was just reading some of your posts about him actually...

You are very lucky to be able to look at the wold from an ivory tower.

Which ivory tower is that Batterup? :) I do hope it's still growing on the elephant... :/ won't catch me near it otherwise. Not sure about the "lucky" bit either :) but it could be worse :)

Which ivory tower is that Batterup? :)

The one where ISIS doesn't come in and kill all the men and make you wear a burka. It's nice to say we should all join hands and sing but the world is a nasty place.

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I just love this thread! Thanx Byron:)

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I just love this thread! Thanx Byron:)

Hi Julie :) ... you are most welcome :)

Best Wishes,
Byron
:)

How does 'Good Words', and 'Good Intentions', stop ISIS?

Every small step towards the good, is a major breakthrough these days. Abiding is the message I guess...

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