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Message 1539401 - Posted: 10 Jul 2014, 22:36:15 UTC - in response to Message 1539337.  

More Buzz Aldrin?

Buzz Aldrin Opens Up About 'UFO' Encounter, Mars Colony Hopes

Even 45 years later, Buzz Aldrin has detailed memories of the Apollo 11 mission, when he became the second man to set foot on the moon.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/10/buzz-aldrin-ufo-mars-colony-reddit-ama_n_5571189.html
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Message 1539726 - Posted: 11 Jul 2014, 11:20:20 UTC - in response to Message 1539337.  

And we know that mars has caves???


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Message 1539946 - Posted: 11 Jul 2014, 20:17:38 UTC - in response to Message 1539940.  

Why?
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Message 1540025 - Posted: 11 Jul 2014, 21:51:39 UTC - in response to Message 1539946.  

Why?


To stay in the present...
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Message 1542013 - Posted: 15 Jul 2014, 12:38:22 UTC - in response to Message 1541977.  
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I can think of better things to spend $27.3 million on.


What's exactly the problem with this project?
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Message 1546837 - Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 9:01:16 UTC

It seems that NASA might be $400 million short of getting its $12 billion rocket system working by the planned 2017 launch date.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/business/nasas-space-launch-system-is-us400-million-short-for-completion/story-fnda1bsz-1226999923983

The Government Accountability Office issued a report Wednesday saying NASA’s Space Launch System is at “high risk of missing” its planned December 2017 initial test flight. The post-space shuttle program would build the biggest rockets ever — larger than the Saturn V rockets which sent men to the moon — to send astronauts to asteroids and Mars.

“They can’t meet the date with the money they have,” report author Cristina Chaplain said. She said it wasn’t because the space agency had technical problems with the congressionally required program, but that NASA didn’t get enough money to carry out the massive undertaking.

The GAO report put the current shortfall at $US400 million, but did say NASA was “making solid progress” on the rocket program design.

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Message 1551614 - Posted: 2 Aug 2014, 22:21:25 UTC

NASA plans to make oxygen on Mars early next decade.

Space agency officials unveiled seven instruments they plan to put on a Martian rover that would launch in 2020, including two devices aimed at bigger Mars missions in the future.

The $1.9 billion rover will include an experiment that will turn carbon dioxide in the Martian atmosphere into oxygen. It could then be used to make rocket fuel and for future astronauts to breathe, said NASA associate administrator for exploration Bill Gerstenmaier.

Taking fuel to Mars for return flights is heavy and expensive.

The device, named MOXIE, works like an engine but in reverse, said Michael Hecht, the scientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who is running the test project. It will make about three-quarters of an ounce of oxygen an hour.

If it works, then a larger scale device – 100 times bigger than MOXIE – would be launched two years before astronauts go, currently slated for some time in the 2030s. NASA first plans to send astronauts to an asteroid.

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Message 1551691 - Posted: 3 Aug 2014, 1:54:13 UTC - in response to Message 1546837.  
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Why do we need bigger rockets. What we need is large ramjet carriers for rockets to give them a boost. We need a better space station so that we can assemble larger rockets and ships in space. a moon base should be our first goal. I don't know if we can whip the cosmic ray problem --if so I think that we should go to Mars within the next 20 years.

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Message 1551727 - Posted: 3 Aug 2014, 5:01:52 UTC - in response to Message 1551691.  

Why do we need bigger rockets. What we need is large ramjet carriers for rockets to give them a boost. We need a better space station so that we can assemble larger rockets and ships in space. a moon base should be our first goal. I don't know if we can whip the cosmic ray problem --if so I think that we should go to Mars within the next 20 years.


+1 I tend to agree. I still think the big show stopper for long term manned space flights is radiation, both cosmic rays and CME's from the sun. The article I read this month in "Air & Space Magazine" on the Orion capsule says they will use their luggage and food stores to shield them from radiation hazards hoping that will be enough.
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Message 1551790 - Posted: 3 Aug 2014, 10:14:58 UTC

Bob you hit on some good points .

America will be left behind again as they let money over ride what is going on else where .

The Chinese are going back to the moon because they realized what is up there that is very valuable and any money they spend they will get back many times over what is up there ?

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So why going to Mars may well be all good publicity for America i think it's far better they beat the Chinese back top the moon . If they do get a base up and running there will be another bigger problem that we may all face if they take with them certain things to protect them self's and can also be used to attck any country and it will be very hard to stop them

So i hope there are some sane heads in Washington that will realize to ignore what China is doing may be a very big mistake and forget about Mars for now and go back to the moon
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Message 1551792 - Posted: 3 Aug 2014, 10:32:48 UTC - in response to Message 1551790.  
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The Chinese weren't even able to manage a robot on the Moon. America has 2 robots on Mars, one of them has been running for ten years. It's another league.
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Message 1551796 - Posted: 3 Aug 2014, 10:50:21 UTC - in response to Message 1551792.  

Tullio don't be to surprised when China do get there they are fast catching up with the west and they have no end of cash at the moment .

We have a energy problem and i just can't understand why they won't go back for security reasons and the Helium 3

Mars would be great but i think were getting ahead of our self's with Mars

The gravity on mars is a lot less then earth and is not dense enough to hold a atmosphere .

The problem of each mission being a 2 year round trip .

I just think the whole thing is more of a publicity stunt than any thing else
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Message 1551799 - Posted: 3 Aug 2014, 11:11:58 UTC - in response to Message 1551796.  

Well, let them show what they are able to do. All dictatorships are very skillful on propaganda, as a former subject of Mussolini knows only too well.
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Message 1551803 - Posted: 3 Aug 2014, 11:31:24 UTC

Yes Tullio i do agree with that .

How ever i was not thinking of any proaganda for my view .

They have access to pretty much the same computers we have and western company's go there build there products and i'm shore there gov is getting there hands on plans and tech so it won't be long till China may well be a big problem and why i think a Mars mission is a waste of time , at this moment and would be better to spend the money on a bigger and better space station and a moon base or capture a asteroid and maybe turn that into a space ship or station before going to Mars .

Good luck to the sucker whom ends up going as he wont be coming back and the mission will fail if what i herd is the price tag they think they can do it on

How many missions have failed going to mars ?

Nice to dream but some times you have to be realistic
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Message 1551806 - Posted: 3 Aug 2014, 11:45:17 UTC - in response to Message 1551803.  
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I see to reason to go back to the Moon to get some more rocks and put them the shelves to get dusty. The Moon has no atmosphere and no magnetic field to protect it and you should dig deep to build something on it. I think America is planning a robot able to make oxygen on Mars, so you would not need to carry it from the Earth. The race to the Moon was mainly a political issue and, as Neil Armstrong said, it ended the cold war.
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Message 1551916 - Posted: 3 Aug 2014, 18:12:17 UTC

There are definitely two camps here. One thinks we should go directly to Mars and skip going back to the moon. The other thinks it would be better in the long run to return to the moon with a permanent base and perfect what's needed to survive for long periods off the earth. Even though Mars does have a very thin atmosphere it has no magnetic field to speak of and so is only a little more hospitable to humans than the much closer moon. If it is proven that we can survive long term on the moon then it is a no brainer to move ahead with a plan to colonize Mars.

Mars ships could be built and fueled with materials that are known to be on and in the moon.
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Message 1552032 - Posted: 4 Aug 2014, 1:34:53 UTC - in response to Message 1551916.  

Mars has ice, both water ice and frozen CO2. It could have harbored life since Mars had lots of water. Some of it could still be there, maybe in cavities. It is a much more interesting world that the Moon. Of course a manned mission is a long term possibility, probably requiring nuclear propulsion rockets, but robotics exploration by NASA is going ahead. Rover Curiosity 2 should be launched in 2020.
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Message 1552038 - Posted: 4 Aug 2014, 1:49:45 UTC - in response to Message 1552032.  
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i get the feeling that subsequent Mars robots are chewing the same cabbage twice or more. The next mission must be designed to answer once and for all whether or not there was life of some or various forms on the red planet. It seems that most of the science of the current rover was all done before.

It's still a great achievement; but, for all the money spent we need some more definitive answers,
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Message 1552053 - Posted: 4 Aug 2014, 2:24:14 UTC - in response to Message 1552032.  

Mars has ice, both water ice and frozen CO2. It could have harbored life since Mars had lots of water. Some of it could still be there, maybe in cavities. It is a much more interesting world that the Moon. Of course a manned mission is a long term possibility, probably requiring nuclear propulsion rockets, but robotics exploration by NASA is going ahead. Rover Curiosity 2 should be launched in 2020.
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I have no problem with continuing robotic missions to Mars. And as to which is more interesting, it depends on who you are talking to. They are pretty sure the moon has water near the poles and it can also be extracted from the regolith in small quantities. To me having a manned base on the moon is a no brainer.
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Message 1552061 - Posted: 4 Aug 2014, 2:43:46 UTC

i will be mischivous and this is a joke so no kicker in a knot please .

The Americans mite not wish to go back to the moon

Why ?

Has anybody seen Apollo 18 the movie ?
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