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Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
In North America things are different now that we are sitting on the mother of all Natural Gas deposits. My retail price for gas at the house is less than Russia charges the EU. It's nice being on the side lines; call US if you find the black box.. oh that is the story that has our attention. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
All current events in east Ukraine very resemble winter's one... with one small but important detail different: there is most activity on weekends. Why? Because peoples who protest now should work and do work whole week, they don't have free eat as maidan't protesters had, they should pay for himselves and families, they can't leave work for protests. I consider this difference as very revealing.... In commentary I linked before author forecasted this (commentary was recorded in early Marth, before east awaken). SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Nice :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Xz-dTTRgY SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Heating up... "A Nato source told the BBC the organisation believed that "Russian forces have been involved in the seizure of some of the buildings". And the US ambassador to the UN said the attacks on police and other buildings in eastern Ukraine had "telltale signs of Moscow's involvement". "It's professional, co-ordinated. Nothing grass-roots about it," ambassador Samantha Power told ABC News. "The forces are doing in each of the six or seven cities they have been active in exactly the same thing."" |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Well, Ukraine topic will be discussed on UN security council, Russia initiates discussion. Will see what US diplomates will say there... SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Well, Ukraine topic will be discussed on UN security council, Russia initiates discussion. Will see what US diplomates will say there... The Russian Foreigner Office says today: "It is the West's responsibility to prevent a civil war in Ukraine" |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
Well, Ukraine topic will be discussed on UN security council, Russia initiates discussion. Will see what US diplomates will say there... So Putin blinked. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Regardless of who is the cause, the Russians will suffer a lower standard of living as will western Europe and to a lesser degree the rest of the world. The economic sanctions will have consequences. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Well so far after the Russian representative gave his propaganda speech in the emergency meeting of the UN security council today, Russia is being mauled by every other representative so far with facts and evidence. So far this is looking like 1 big backfire for Russia and so far is looking like more sanctions will result against Russia after this meeting. Cheers. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It seems that the Russian speaker made a mistake towards the end of the meeting admitting that Russian Security Service agents are in the Ukraine "explaining" things to certain locals (I bet that most took this as "inciting discord" instead) while he was back peddling against the opinion of the rest of the speakers. Cheers. |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11361 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Yes, that is what we are being told in the west, I happen to believe it is true. What our friend Rastmer is being told is different and what he believes is different. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It was a very interesting webcast to watch I can tell ya's. ;-) Cheers. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Well, Ukraine topic will be discussed on UN security council, Russia initiates discussion. Will see what US diplomates will say there... It has sense - who started (inspired) all this mess should deal with consequencies... Also, take a note how west wanted russia not to be involved, so... SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Well, Ukraine topic will be discussed on UN security council, Russia initiates discussion. Will see what US diplomates will say there... Did you watch the webcast of that session? If you did then your post is deluded to say the least. Cheers. |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Fortunately the biggest difference between now and what happened in the late 1930's is the influence of the electronic media. Nobody, including Putin can completely control the news and propaganda gets recognised for what it is more quickly and broadly. All of this rubs both ways and tends to keep the playing field even. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
I say so what effect will sanctions have? None at all. At least not this summer. But what about when next winter starts and Russia shuts the tap off for natural gas to the west. Will sanctions work then? Now we see thugs in eastern Ukraine sporting the famous black uniform that everyone is wearing that supports a Russian leadership. I can see the Eastern Ukraine being annexed next. Hold On sanctions will work. Peace in our time. If the world is truly outraged by what is going on. Then send troops in. Force Russia to play a conventional war or upgrade to a nuke war. On the other hand if all we are offering is lip service then the western world needs to shut up, And we can all pretend its 1938 again. [/quote] Old James |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Did you watch the webcast of that session? Cheers.[/quote] No, I'm woke and gone to work at that time. Will see if I get any recordings of event for look. SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
I say so what effect will sanctions have? None at all. At least not this summer. What videos did you watch? There are lots of videos how Donetsk, Lugansk and other cities were taken. By peoples in usual camouflage, that indeed can be bought everywhere, nothing special at all. Also, many have open faces, so their Ukraine citizenship can be easely established. So hard to believe that there are lots of peoples who refuse to obey current rulers from Kiev? Russia's involvement is usual Ukrainean propaganda being re-posted. It's very convenient to say "it's russians from Russia, they are not russians from Ukraine" and continue to ignore east population demands. Will go to look last events now... SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
http://www.un.org/en/sc/meetings/records/2014.shtml No last event's record. But looking news about - nothing changed, USA continues their accusations and refuse their involvement... So all continues. SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Russia should give them 5 BILLION DOLLARS, just like the US gave the Euromaidan folks.... Also Sergei Lavrov should go and visit the peaceful protesters and give them cookies LoL, +1 SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
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