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Message 1507045 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 21:55:22 UTC
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Brothers, enough of empty words here... If they will attack our country, we will defend ourselves to the last! Such wars the World has ever seen! It's not - Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya and other! Their mothers will expect of fathers, sons as on assembly line! You can not imagine that such Ukrainian Nation! Today,I met a senior sergeant contract military service (she is a woman), who told me:" I will rip them up the pharynx with their teeth...." Despite the fact that it has automatic weapon and a pistol now... ! By the way, she hailed with of Southern Ukraine (Kherson region, the boundary of the Crimea).
Second. She, like me, forever said farewell to the brothers and sisters who live in Russia. We wanted to spit on family ties when it comes to our country, Ukraine! And you will witness of just War, perhaps in enemy territory! All bullets, artillery shells and missiles will be delivered to the target ... addition, punches will be obtained from the guerrillas and the local population!
Yesterday, in Slavyansk (Donetsk region), captured the 17 of terrorists, four of whom has Ukrainian passports, which was issued one on the same day (by date)! This is a "locals" who came together, at one and the same time and in same place?! And they got passports of Ukraine everything together?!
Let the some military units appeared are not ready, but they were replaced!
We closed our borders for Russian men (age 16 to 60 years) and the pro-Russian forces at rallies, today (in Kharkiv, Donetsk, Lugansk) were from 100 to 300 persons, in Odessa 50 - 80 persons... maybe a little more! What happened to the others separatists - anybody can not understand! They have evaporated...! :)
Read more, truth, on sites:
http://www.mil.gov.ua/?lang=en (English version),
http://www.mil.gov.ua/?lang=ua (Ukrainian version)
and http://blogs.pravda.com.ua/authors/voznyak/53556a4e2854b/ (Ukrainian true for English speaking audience, daily news,with daily updates)

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Message 1507046 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 21:57:15 UTC - in response to Message 1507043.  


I think you mean the last president.

They all the same. Prev bombed Iraq, this one bombed Libia... all the same.

The last one invaded Iraq. It is a $3 trillion difference to the taxpayer.
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Message 1507048 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 22:13:06 UTC - in response to Message 1507046.  


I think you mean the last president.

They all the same. Prev bombed Iraq, this one bombed Libia... all the same.

The last one invaded Iraq. It is a $3 trillion difference to the taxpayer.

yep, money are different perhaps. But both responsible for kills.
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Message 1507049 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 22:18:44 UTC - in response to Message 1507048.  

The last one invaded Iraq. It is a $3 trillion difference to the taxpayer.

yep, money are different perhaps. But both responsible for kills.

I don't think the bombing in Libya was responsible for any more killed than what they were doing in their own civil war, and probably helped end that war early.
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Message 1507050 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 22:20:39 UTC - in response to Message 1507049.  

The last one invaded Iraq. It is a $3 trillion difference to the taxpayer.

yep, money are different perhaps. But both responsible for kills.

I don't think the bombing in Libya was responsible for any more killed than what they were doing in their own civil war, and probably helped end that war early.

It did not end up today actually.
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Message 1507052 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 22:24:26 UTC - in response to Message 1507050.  

The last one invaded Iraq. It is a $3 trillion difference to the taxpayer.

yep, money are different perhaps. But both responsible for kills.

I don't think the bombing in Libya was responsible for any more killed than what they were doing in their own civil war, and probably helped end that war early.

It did not end up today actually.

For the U.S., it has. I don't expect everyone there to like each other, but that is their problem.
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Message 1507053 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 22:26:50 UTC - in response to Message 1507052.  

The last one invaded Iraq. It is a $3 trillion difference to the taxpayer.

yep, money are different perhaps. But both responsible for kills.

I don't think the bombing in Libya was responsible for any more killed than what they were doing in their own civil war, and probably helped end that war early.

It did not end up today actually.

For the U.S., it has. I don't expect everyone there to like each other, but that is their problem.

For the US yes, but you said that bombing may reduced total death count. That's questionable.
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Message 1507055 - Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 22:49:46 UTC - in response to Message 1507053.  

For the US yes, but you said that bombing may reduced total death count. That's questionable.

I certainly have not heard of any major fighting since Khadafi was overthrown. And in fact, they are creating a new constitution now. That would not have happened without the NATO intervention.

Did Russia help out in any of that?
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Message 1507134 - Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 5:03:03 UTC

Some countries obviously don't want peace and stability on a global basis. They would have no one to peddle their weapons to and no place to try them out.
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Message 1507180 - Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 6:49:01 UTC - in response to Message 1507055.  
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For the US yes, but you said that bombing may reduced total death count. That's questionable.

I certainly have not heard of any major fighting since Khadafi was overthrown. And in fact, they are creating a new constitution now. That would not have happened without the NATO intervention.

Did Russia help out in any of that?

Constitution you say?
well: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/28/libya-poised-retake-oil-ports-rebels-split-country

Libyans are losing faith in democracy, after the failure of congress to tackle corruption, economic malaise and militia violence. Last month, just 500,000 voters, or 15% of the electorate, turned out to elect an assembly to write Libya's constitution.

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Message 1507181 - Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 6:50:08 UTC - in response to Message 1507134.  

Some countries obviously don't want peace and stability on a global basis.

Exactly but why you so shy to name that country, great exporter of "democracy" to the world?...
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Message 1507214 - Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 8:30:38 UTC

I dare say there are many more AK47s in the hands of revolutionaries and terrorists than M16s. The same goes for Mig29s vs. American fighters in third world countries. The US also doesn't sell submarines to anyone unlike Russia.
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Message 1507216 - Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 8:34:58 UTC

Why is it that criminals always want to cover their faces?

Anyhow here's the latest news here, http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/us-releases-photos-of-russian-troops-russia-us-trade-jabs-over-troubled-ukraine-deal/story-fnh81p7g-1226892038216.

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Message 1507331 - Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 19:34:38 UTC

It looked very promesing getting Sweden and alot of new contries joining the EU.
With the new eastern countries to give balance to what today is EU.
It makes EU sparkle in a way most people couldn't belive it would.

There where even the possibilities of getting closer connected with 3 large nations, Belarus, Ukraine and Russia in the future.

I still hope for that possibility and that all do what it takes to bring order and peace to the future.
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Message 1507582 - Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 13:42:05 UTC - in response to Message 1507577.  

Don't you mean cockroaches...

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Message 1507604 - Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 15:49:48 UTC - in response to Message 1507577.  


Silly Words, Limited Sanctions, 600 US Troops: Shows weakness, and emboldens Putin Types.

Why should US take the lead in this; especially the boots on the ground part? Think about it they have nothing US needs.
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Message 1507778 - Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 20:33:00 UTC - in response to Message 1507604.  


Silly Words, Limited Sanctions, 600 US Troops: Shows weakness, and emboldens Putin Types.

Why should US take the lead in this; especially the boots on the ground part? Think about it they have nothing US needs.


Because the global economy demands it.
And because US is a member of NATO.
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Message 1507800 - Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 21:11:30 UTC - in response to Message 1507745.  
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Actually, we shouldn't do anything.
We aren't really doing anything militarily by moving 600 airborne troops from Italy to Poland and the Baltic States; they aren't any closer, in fact they most likely won't be as ready as they would be coming out of their home base. This is the same 173 Infantry that jumped into northern Iraq. They had to jump because out NATO allay Turkey denied US land access.

Sen. John McCain said US should take Ukraine into NATO now;
“ We should take them into NATO,” McCain said on Don Imus’ show when asked about how to handle Ukraine. “We should restore the missile defense systems that we canceled in the Czech Republic and Poland.”


I just saw a video clip of their arrival in Poland, with starched BDUs and burgundy berets. No jump, shouldered weapons, I'm bummed it was just a parade.


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Message 1507825 - Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 22:26:07 UTC - in response to Message 1507823.  

Obama doesn't believe in Enforcing Internal Laws. Why should he Enforce International Treaty's?


...because alongside Putin, they're cockroaches with egos bigger than their heads?
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Sen. John McCain said US should take Ukraine into NATO now;
[quote]“ We should take them into NATO,” McCain said on Don Imus’ show when asked about how to handle Ukraine. “We should restore the missile defense systems that we canceled in the Czech Republic and Poland.”

I just saw a video clip of their arrival in Poland, with starched BDUs and burgundy berets. No jump, shouldered weapons, I'm bummed it was just a parade.


Some time ago Russia was against a Missile defense system that NATO planned in Poland. Even if that same defense system would bennefit even some of Russias western borders.

And even with the knowledge of the placement of the defence system did Russia very upset now your Senator suggests it would be a good idea to place it even closer to Russia without even consulting them.

Now I understand better why Russia is upset.

There was a partnership for peace or what it was called that was ment to help out in situations like this and getting closer connections with east and west.
Talk to people first!!

I always said Sweden should get an missile defense system for ICBM's and such by our own since there in a close WW3 situation there will be fly-over Sweden missiles that we don't won't here.
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