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Message 1504311 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 8:58:09 UTC

I'm not getting the entire picture here....

Maybe wasn't such a good idea make federation of Ukrainian states before asking Ukraine.
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Message 1504315 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 9:11:35 UTC - in response to Message 1504311.  

before asking Ukraine.

What do you mean by that? East areas demand referendum regarding country organization. To decide (democratically) should Ukraine be unitar or federal.
But asking Ukraine is asking whom? Kiev's usurpators? Well, it's not Ukraine.
Votes on whole-Ukraine referendum could be "asking Ukraine", but what Turchinov says - it's not what "says Ukraine". There are ~20 president candidates now, some of them demand federalization too. They get physical pressure - Tsarev was beaten yesterday... So, what is "asking Ukraine" ?
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Message 1504331 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 9:37:33 UTC - in response to Message 1504315.  

before asking Ukraine.

What do you mean by that? East areas demand referendum regarding country organization. To decide (democratically) should Ukraine be unitar or federal.
But asking Ukraine is asking whom? Kiev's usurpators? Well, it's not Ukraine.
Votes on whole-Ukraine referendum could be "asking Ukraine", but what Turchinov says - it's not what "says Ukraine". There are ~20 president candidates now, some of them demand federalization too. They get physical pressure - Tsarev was beaten yesterday... So, what is "asking Ukraine" ?



Well, as of now there is "riots" and Ukraine seems to want to use force to make it stop.

A possible future will be:

1. Russia helps it's citicens with force.
2. Nato .....

A nice movie.... "Wargames"; Would you like to play a nice game of Chess?

Someone here show me a different future path please!!
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Message 1504377 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 14:33:49 UTC - in response to Message 1504331.  

A nice movie.... "Wargames"; Would you like to play a nice game of Chess?


+ 100

One of my favourites.

Seen the Stanley Kubrick film Dr Strangelove?

Someone here show me a different future path please!!


Wish I could - we're on a seriously backward one as far as I can see. :(
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Message 1504382 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 14:49:05 UTC - in response to Message 1504377.  

Seen the Stanley Kubrick film Dr Strangelove?


"Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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Message 1504389 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 15:14:11 UTC - in response to Message 1504373.  
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Putin 'buzzing' an American Destroyer.


A lone unarmed fighter did a fly over. The Super Bowl gets more. The 1988 Black Sea bumper boat regatta was more interesting.

The Black Sea is really a lake with only one way in or out and that is through Turkey. Interesting situation for Tzar Putin so he doesn't want to go there.
A possible future will be:

1. Russia helps it's citicens with force.
2. Nato .....

NATO/(US) will not get involved, boots on the ground, in Ukraine, Kerry said that. Of course bumper boat is bumper boat.
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Message 1504396 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 15:32:52 UTC
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Real fight going in Slavyansk now... there are casualties already...

Tanks on road to Slavyansk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHm7T6-Pl80
It seems they arrived already...
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Message 1504401 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 15:40:41 UTC - in response to Message 1504396.  

...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced by the EU...

How sad!

Just proves the point that $$$$ & property is more valuable than human life.
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Message 1504433 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 19:34:44 UTC - in response to Message 1504401.  

...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced the EU

I can see his worry that ties to the West will eventually lead to joining NATO; he is surrounded as it is and he doesn't want it getting tighter.
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Message 1504435 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 19:36:27 UTC - in response to Message 1504433.  

...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced the EU

I can see his worry that ties to the West will eventually lead to joining NATO; he is surrounded as it is and he doesn't want it getting tighter.


Understandable I suppose, but I wonder if the dead would agree with you?
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Message 1504439 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 19:49:24 UTC - in response to Message 1504435.  

I wonder if the dead would agree with you?

As long as it isn't US dead.
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Message 1504441 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 19:52:48 UTC - in response to Message 1504439.  

I wonder if the dead would agree with you?

As long as it isn't US dead.



Is that meant to be US or U.S.? If U.S., then let's hope that NATO does not get involved or it will be US!
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Message 1504446 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 20:19:01 UTC - in response to Message 1504401.  

...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced by the EU...


What a cynic statement... No, absolutely not because "one man", because half of country...
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Message 1504447 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 20:21:22 UTC - in response to Message 1504446.  

...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced by the EU...


What a cynic statement... No, absolutely not because "one man", because half of country...


...so to get what they want, they're prepared to kill the other half?

Now that is cynical!
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Message 1504478 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 21:16:49 UTC - in response to Message 1504441.  


Is that meant to be US or U.S.? If U.S., then let's hope that NATO does not get involved or it will be US!

I don't know who US is with what I now know about secret agreements. I notice gold and oil traders are not showing much worry over this; I find that interesting.
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Message 1504481 - Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 21:25:43 UTC - in response to Message 1504478.  


Is that meant to be US or U.S.? If U.S., then let's hope that NATO does not get involved or it will be US!

I don't know who US is with what I now know about secret agreements. I notice gold and oil traders are not showing much worry over this; I find that interesting.


..yeah, they don't care, they'll only begin to worry once the bombs start falling...

..and even then they'll still die trying to earn loadsa $$$$
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Message 1504566 - Posted: 16 Apr 2014, 4:53:06 UTC

I looked on a map of the area and noticed that without Crimea and eastern Ukraine Russia only has about 200 miles of shoreline on the Black Sea and no major seaports. I wonder if this could be part of the reason they want control of the area.
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Message 1504581 - Posted: 16 Apr 2014, 5:39:43 UTC - in response to Message 1504566.  

I looked on a map of the area and noticed that without Crimea and eastern Ukraine Russia only has about 200 miles of shoreline on the Black Sea and no major seaports. I wonder if this could be part of the reason they want control of the area.

That could be a very good part of it amongst a few other reasons that Vlad needs ATM.

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Message 1504639 - Posted: 16 Apr 2014, 7:42:35 UTC - in response to Message 1504447.  

...and all because one man disliked the Ukraine influenced by the EU...


What a cynic statement... No, absolutely not because "one man", because half of country...


...so to get what they want, they're prepared to kill the other half?

Now that is cynical!


Fully agree. This should be stopped! Kiev's usurpators should not use military against peoples.
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