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Message 1662018 - Posted: 6 Apr 2015, 17:10:59 UTC - in response to Message 1662003.  

I wonder if there is any fracking being done in these areas?
Since the USGS said Fracking is causing man made earthquakes..

In an area as geologically active as the Los Angeles area, how do you tell the difference?

I'd be more concerned if it were happening in the Bakersfield or Lost Hills areas of the San Joaquin Valley, which are geologically quiet, but have both fracking and steam injection going on.....
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Message 1662050 - Posted: 6 Apr 2015, 18:36:56 UTC - in response to Message 1662018.  
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I wonder if there is any fracking being done in these areas?
Since the USGS said Fracking is causing man made earthquakes..

In an area as geologically active as the Los Angeles area, how do you tell the difference?

I'd be more concerned if it were happening in the Bakersfield or Lost Hills areas of the San Joaquin Valley, which are geologically quiet, but have both fracking and steam injection going on.....

I don't know that, the USGS might know. Maybe by any permits to drill that might have been issued, that and knowing when any drilling is taking place. LA used to have lots of oil wells, notably on and around Signal Hill CA, that city had them almost everywhere when I was growing up, plus there were wells in the San Fernando Valley too. In Long Beach CA just off the coast there are some wells camouflaged as islands. In Culver City there were oil wells, slant drilling was talked about there. I'm sure there were wells in a lot of places in LA County, most didn't last and were capped, that doesn't mean they all became dry holes, just that it wasn't economical to pump anymore in some cases.
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Message 1662058 - Posted: 6 Apr 2015, 18:51:29 UTC

Northern Alberta is now having geologically active incidents..
The oil companies assure us that it is all natural stuff.....



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Message 1663982 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 5:58:52 UTC
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Prague OK(Wastewater Injection Spurred Biggest Earthquake Yet, Says Study) magnitude 5.7 earthquake in 2011, why so big? Fracking doesn't occur any deeper than 1 mile down, natural earthquakes are typically down at 10 miles. And when Fracking ceases the quakes die off gradually, this came from the weather channel. Hoover Dam when It was first filling up created earthquakes and more might come when the water level sinks lower and lower.

A new study in the journal Geology is the latest to tie a string of unusual earthquakes, in this case, in central Oklahoma, to the injection of wastewater deep underground. Researchers now say that the magnitude 5.7 earthquake near Prague, Okla., on Nov. 6, 2011, may also be the largest ever linked to wastewater injection. Felt as far away as Milwaukee, more than 800 miles away, the quake—the biggest ever recorded in Oklahoma--destroyed 14 homes, buckled a federal highway and left two people injured. Small earthquakes continue to be recorded in the area.




In Sichuan China in 2008, there was a Dam that activated an ancient fault, that made the land in one area rise by 30 feet.
69,197 were confirmed dead


All these and a few more were mentioned by the Weather Channel and of course Oil/Gas Companies will deny that Fracking causes EarthQuakes, they would lose lots of Money, in the millions at the very least..
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Message 1664003 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 7:09:06 UTC
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Even National Geographic has something to say on man made earthquakes.

The largest recorded earthquake in Oklahoma history was likely triggered by the injection of wastewater from oil production into wells deep beneath the earth, according to a study published Tuesday in the scientific journal Geology.

The magnitude 5.7 earthquake, which struck in 2011 near Prague in central Oklahoma, is the largest and most recent of a number of quakes scientists have tied to wastewater injection from oil and natural gas production, raising new concerns about the practice.


Several homes were damaged in the earthquake that hit central Oklahoma on November 6,
2011. The injection of wastewater from oil production into abandoned oil wells was the likely
cause, according to a new study.
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Message 1664197 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 18:40:09 UTC

Notice that the article has CYA words (potentially) and phrases (induced earthquakes are possible). Nothing concrete here. Just guess work.
typical.
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Message 1664210 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 19:35:04 UTC - in response to Message 1664197.  

The previous article has neither, when water/fluid is injected into rock earthquakes happen.

A new study in the journal Geology is the latest to tie a string of unusual earthquakes, in this case, in central Oklahoma, to the injection of wastewater deep underground. Researchers now say that the magnitude 5.7 earthquake near Prague, Okla., on Nov. 6, 2011, may also be the largest ever linked to wastewater injection. Felt as far away as Milwaukee, more than 800 miles away, the quake—the biggest ever recorded in Oklahoma--destroyed 14 homes, buckled a federal highway and left two people injured. Small earthquakes continue to be recorded in the area.


And the consensus is that the quakes are getting bigger as time goes on while drilling is going on, this is in areas that were quiet(earthquake wise) for longer than recorded history. Wait till you have a 7.0 quake, each 0.1 rise in magnitude is 10 times bigger than the previous magnitude, a 7.0 is 130 times bigger(worse) than a 5.7 quake, here in CA We're used to quakes.

Most places(houses/buildings) outside CA aren't built to handle a quake, buildings not secured(bolted down) to a foundation will slide off a foundation in a quake, no shear panels(wafer board), in the past brick buildings that were unreinforced(reinforced w/steel rods and concrete) collapsed, usually killing people. Some buildings would sink into the ground cause of liquefaction(think quicksand almost). Bridges would either fully or partly collapse.
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Message 1664231 - Posted: 11 Apr 2015, 20:18:23 UTC - in response to Message 1499020.  

I'm just curious as to how those people here who live along the Ring of Fire feel about the recent amount of activity that there has been along it lately?
Cheers.

Like this perhaps:)
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Message 1664297 - Posted: 12 Apr 2015, 0:00:12 UTC - in response to Message 1664210.  
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I have a healthy skepticism in "studies". I've seen more than a few that were shown to be wrong. In the 50's-60's era there were studies" that showed that we'd be out of oil in ~20 years. We aren't. In the 70's they were saying we were headed for another ice age. Didn't happen. Food "studies" that changed back and forth (bad for you, good for you)are numerous. Y2K was supposed to be a disaster. It wasn't.

Earthquakes? They were happening before fracking and they happen where fracking isn't going on. Seems to me that mankind is too quick to find reasons to blame mankind for all the worlds ills or what man perceives to be ills. Whose is to say that the quake in fracking country wouldn't have happened anyway...fracking or not? Perhaps fracking is one cause....perhaps not. I'll remain skeptical until proven beyond any doubt. And that hasn't happened yet. Theories aren't enough.

What is the Science Channels motto? Question everything....or something like that.
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Message 1669776 - Posted: 25 Apr 2015, 14:09:19 UTC
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Heaviest earthquake in 80 years in Nepal..

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/25/asia/nepal-earthquake-7-5-magnitude/

Masni told CNN by telephone that this appeared to be "the most massive earthquake to hit central Nepal since 1934." In that quake, which was 8.0 magnitude and centered near Mount Everest, more than 10,000 people were reported killed.

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Message 1669801 - Posted: 25 Apr 2015, 15:08:17 UTC

A friend of mine got away in time, fortunately.
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Message 1669807 - Posted: 25 Apr 2015, 15:18:04 UTC

People in CA are afraid of the Big One, a 9.0 on the San Andreas fault.. That's over 100 times stronger than a 7.9 or 7.8..
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Message 1669837 - Posted: 25 Apr 2015, 16:25:19 UTC

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Message 1670250 - Posted: 26 Apr 2015, 5:50:45 UTC - in response to Message 1670214.  
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Hollywood made a picture of San Andreas fault.

Looks like a 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23VflsU3kZE
San Andreas - Official Trailer 2 [HD]
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Message 1670397 - Posted: 26 Apr 2015, 16:28:06 UTC - in response to Message 1669776.  

Heaviest earthquake in 80 years in Nepal..

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/25/asia/nepal-earthquake-7-5-magnitude/

Masni told CNN by telephone that this appeared to be "the most massive earthquake to hit central Nepal since 1934." In that quake, which was 8.0 magnitude and centered near Mount Everest, more than 10,000 people were reported killed.


22,000 now Julie :(
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Message 1670406 - Posted: 26 Apr 2015, 16:51:56 UTC - in response to Message 1670250.  
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Hollywood made a picture of San Andreas fault.

Looks like a 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23VflsU3kZE
San Andreas - Official Trailer 2 [HD]


If that happens I would either run to the docks and head out to deep water or the airport ride it out in the air
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Message 1670443 - Posted: 26 Apr 2015, 18:30:44 UTC - in response to Message 1670406.  

Hollywood made a picture of San Andreas fault.

Looks like a 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23VflsU3kZE
San Andreas - Official Trailer 2 [HD]


If that happens I would either run to the docks and head out to deep water or the airport ride it out in the air


An open park is the best deal for anyone.
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Message 1670447 - Posted: 26 Apr 2015, 18:37:35 UTC - in response to Message 1670443.  

Hollywood made a picture of San Andreas fault.

Looks like a 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23VflsU3kZE
San Andreas - Official Trailer 2 [HD]


If that happens I would either run to the docks and head out to deep water or the airport ride it out in the air


An open park is the best deal for anyone.


I would be terrified, living on the ring of fire! Praying for you guys.
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