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Message 1498821 - Posted: 2 Apr 2014, 23:53:23 UTC
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Rest of the world: Save Yourselves if you still can, we're more obviously past the tipping point with every passing day.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/04/02/supreme-court-campaign-finance/4481675/
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Message 1498823 - Posted: 2 Apr 2014, 23:56:26 UTC - in response to Message 1498821.  

Rest of the world: Save Yourselves if you still can, we're more obviously past the tipping point with every passing day.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/04/02/supreme-court-campaign-finance/4481675


Off to read it now :)
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Message 1498840 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 0:26:13 UTC

Sorry if I offend any of you Yanks here, but having read that article you can't blame people from other countries from believing that your system of politics is 1 of the most corrupt systems in the world and how yous believe that it is democratic is totally beyond me as it just looks like those with the most money get their way and those that don't have any just don't get a say at all.

I'll admit that even our system here could be better, but I'll take it any day over what yous have over there.

I'll appologise again if I offend anyone, but I really think that yous could do with some massive political reforms over there (another 1 or 3 political parties certainly wouldn't hurt either to break your 2 party system) and actually let everyone participate in an even democratic way.

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Message 1498845 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 0:34:10 UTC - in response to Message 1498840.  

Sorry if I offend any of you Yanks here, but having read that article you can't blame people from other countries from believing that your system of politics is 1 of the most corrupt systems in the world and how yous believe that it is democratic is totally beyond me as it just looks like those with the most money get their way and those that don't have any just don't get a say at all.

I'll admit that even our system here could be better, but I'll take it any day over what yous have over there.

I'll appologise again if I offend anyone, but I really think that yous could do with some massive political reforms over there (another 1 or 3 political parties certainly wouldn't hurt either to break your 2 party system) and actually let everyone participate in an even democratic way.

Cheers.


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Message 1498903 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 2:48:57 UTC - in response to Message 1498840.  

Sorry if I offend any of you Yanks here, but having read that article you can't blame people from other countries from believing that your system of politics is 1 of the most corrupt systems in the world and how yous believe that it is democratic is totally beyond me as it just looks like those with the most money get their way and those that don't have any just don't get a say at all.

I'll admit that even our system here could be better, but I'll take it any day over what yous have over there.

I'll appologise again if I offend anyone, but I really think that yous could do with some massive political reforms over there (another 1 or 3 political parties certainly wouldn't hurt either to break your 2 party system) and actually let everyone participate in an even democratic way.

Cheers.


Wiggo, I am in wholehearted agreement with the statement you made here. ALL of it.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

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Message 1498926 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 3:41:30 UTC

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Message 1498931 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 3:50:45 UTC - in response to Message 1498840.  

Sorry if I offend any of you Yanks here, but having read that article you can't blame people from other countries from believing that your system of politics is 1 of the most corrupt systems in the world and how yous believe that it is democratic is totally beyond me as it just looks like those with the most money get their way and those that don't have any just don't get a say at all.

I'll admit that even our system here could be better, but I'll take it any day over what yous have over there.

I'll appologise again if I offend anyone, but I really think that yous could do with some massive political reforms over there (another 1 or 3 political parties certainly wouldn't hurt either to break your 2 party system) and actually let everyone participate in an even democratic way.

Cheers.

Good post Wiggo well said ... thank you :)

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Message 1498981 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 7:13:55 UTC

I not only do not take offense, I say you are right. It seems coprolite money has finally found its way into the Supine court.

Well, Lets see how fast this nation can go down the toilet.
This is even worse then companys being an individual.

This election was bought and paid for by- Put a name here.

That was the worst news Ive ever read.
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Message 1498998 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 8:05:21 UTC - in response to Message 1498981.  

I not only do not take offense, I say you are right. It seems coprolite money has finally found its way into the Supine court.

Well, Lets see how fast this nation can go down the toilet.
This is even worse then companys being an individual.

This election was bought and paid for by- Put a name here.

That was the worst news Ive ever read.


It's not good is it? :(
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Message 1499056 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 11:12:07 UTC

Thank you all as I was nearly positive that I might upset someone with that post as I see things.

No Annie, it's not good, because if some drastic political reforms arn't implemented in the near future then it's highly likely the whole system will either collapse in on itself or just become so stagnated that it'll become deadlocked (signs already showing on that point) which will be no good for anyone, politically or financially as I can see it, but it'll be the little people who'll suffer the most in the end.

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Message 1499192 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 16:48:13 UTC - in response to Message 1499127.  
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Our supreme court is now decided by one judge on each case. And currently Roberts and Kennedy take turns with each case.

SCOTUS just said (for the time being) that corporations are people and money is free speech.

This is a big set back to the liberal agenda of centralizing all power and control in Washington DC.

No, its a big set forward in centralising all power and control into the hands of the richest 1% and the corporations.

Not people who can in any way be assumed to have your best interests at heart.
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Message 1499193 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 16:50:20 UTC - in response to Message 1499127.  
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Our supreme court is now decided by one judge on each case. And currently Roberts and Kennedy take turns with each case.

SCOTUS just said (for the time being) that corporations are people and money is free speech.

This is a big set back to the liberal agenda of centralizing all power and control in Washington DC.

So, you would rather live under a Plutocracy than a Democracy just because you don't like the policies of the incumbent ? Do you not think the aim of any party is to "centralise control" ?

(for the time being)

Do you think that if the GOP get the gong next time, they will change a system that has obviously benefited them ? What will you do if you don't like the way they run things ? Will you continue to vote for them just because they aren't "liberal" ? Apart from repealing Obamacare, do you think the direction the US is heading will really change that much ? Afterall, Obama (even though he's a "liberal") kept all of Bush Jnr's "security" and "anti terror" legislation (remember who brought you the NSA) in place because it helped to shore up his position. Will a GOP president loosen the strings in the name of "freedom" ?

My biggest worry is that 96% of voters are "rusted on" to the party of their choice (48% each way). Therefore elections are decided by the 4% of swinging voters. These are the ones the parties aim their election campaigns at.

I would hope that this 4% would be intelligent enough to be bored out of their skulls by the battering of advertising they will be subjected to in the next 7 months and vote independant.

I recall that not that long ago, the DEMS were the "conservative" party and the GOP were the "liberals". What will you do if the pendulum swings back the other way ?

That REALLY would be interesting.

Or were you being sarcastic and I missed it ?

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Message 1499209 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 17:22:37 UTC - in response to Message 1499193.  

Afterall, Obama (even though he's a "liberal") kept all of Bush Jnr's "security" and "anti terror" legislation (remember who brought you the NSA) in place because it helped to shore up his position.


Quite note: the NSA was formed under President Truman (D) in 1952. It was given greatly expanded powers in the aftermath of the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001 by then President George Bush Jr. (R).

This is the problem with power. Power corrupts. And absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Message 1499317 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 20:04:10 UTC - in response to Message 1499291.  

I'm at a point in my life where I want to give the liberals everything they want... and then FORCE THEM TO LIVE WITH IT.

First you have to elect some actual liberals to government.
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Message 1499414 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 22:34:49 UTC - in response to Message 1499111.  

Sorry to disagree with all your comments, but I agree with the foundation of this Ruling.

Majority European/Canadian Thought: Someone, or Agency, in Government knows what is best.

Majority American Thought: No They Don't.

Majority European Thought: The People are..., can't be trusted, and therefore...

Majority American Thought: The People are..., can't be trusted, but Government control is worse.

I can see MAJOR problems with this Ruling. But it is far superior to those who believe in the Controlling Power (Government), under Force of Law, saying how much Political Speech will be allowed.

Please let's not get into a discussion a Government can enact Wonderful, Perfect, and Brilliant Laws regarding Who, and How Much Free Political Speech will be allowed. They never have, and never will.

Repeating: Prefer 100 Mega Wealthy People, with Different Politics, Flooding the airways, than One Controlling Power (Government) deciding Who, and How Much.


The Randian ideal of one dollar, one vote eh?
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Message 1499416 - Posted: 3 Apr 2014, 22:37:23 UTC - in response to Message 1499193.  

Afterall, Obama (even though he's a "liberal") kept all of Bush Jnr's "security" and "anti terror" legislation (remember who brought you the NSA) in place because it helped to shore up his position. Will a GOP president loosen the strings in the name of "freedom" ?



Obama is by no stretch of the imagination a 'liberal'. By any sane evaluation, ignoring rhetoric, he's a right leaning Reagan Republican.
He only LOOKS a little liberal because the Repubs have basically become fascists.
The Democrats are now conservatives.
The progressive option no longer exists in the USA.
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