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Message 1497811 - Posted: 31 Mar 2014, 11:35:19 UTC
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Something everyone has always known all along, and something that is criminally against the whole idea of a whale sanctuary, and a disgrace against the good name of science for thinly veiled Japanese corruption...

FOUR YEARS LATER and after over TEN YEARS of direct action by Sea Shepherd, the world courts ultimately agree:


UN court: Japan whaling 'not scientific'

The UN's International Court of Justice (ICJ) has ruled that Japan's Antarctic whaling programme is not for scientific purposes.

Japan catches [attempts to catch] about 1,000 whales each year for what it calls scientific research.

Australia filed a case with the ICJ in May 2010, arguing that Japan's programme - under which it kills whales - is commercial whaling in disguise.

The court's decision is considered legally binding. Japan had said earlier that it would abide by the court's ruling...




What now for the dishonorable Japanese whalers?

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Message 1497813 - Posted: 31 Mar 2014, 11:44:35 UTC


What now for the dishonorable Japanese whalers?

They'll just have to get proper jobs now.

Unless Japan comes up with another farcical loophole just like their "scientific research" was.

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Message 1497865 - Posted: 31 Mar 2014, 16:05:27 UTC

I saw the headline at lunch time and thought "About time too".
If the Japanese whalers do become wailers do to their lack of employment then a number of whales won't be wailing, and the crew of Sea Shepherd will be a little less stressed.
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Message 1498048 - Posted: 1 Apr 2014, 2:42:12 UTC

This is something I've waited for all my life! :) I will be VERY unhappy if it doesn't stop now.

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Message 1498049 - Posted: 1 Apr 2014, 2:45:24 UTC

I think it's pretty well established the large marine mammals in this general group are highly sapient.
Personally, I'd classify the hunting and eating of them as murder and cannibalism.
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Message 1503127 - Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 12:01:07 UTC

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Message 1503420 - Posted: 13 Apr 2014, 1:04:08 UTC - in response to Message 1503127.
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Banned Japanese whalers expect Southern Ocean hunt to resume

Unfortunately so... The Japanese look to squirm further into crass dishonor...


Sea Shepherd themselves sum up nicely:

Japan’s Institute for Cetacean Research (ICR) Shames Themselves in Defiance of World Court Ruling

In a blatant show of defiance of the recent landmark ruling in The Hague by the International Court of Justice (ICJ), Japan's Institute of Cetacean Research (ICR) has today filed court briefs stating they intend to return to hunt whales in the Southern Ocean for the 2015-2016 season with a newly designed "research" program and will seek a permanent injunction against Sea Shepherd USA...

... Clearly, the ICR is unsettled not only by the favorable ICJ ruling but also by Commissioner Peter Shaw’s recent recommendation to the Ninth Circuit Court that Sea Shepherd USA not be held in contempt...

... A status conference will take place at 10 a.m. Wednesday, April 16 in the United States District Court, ... to set the trial date for a permanent injunction case brought against Sea Shepherd USA from obstructing illegal whaling operations in the Southern Ocean. The meeting is open to the public.



Kidnapping, and ramming and sinking ships... Killing endangered whales in a whale sanctuary for the sake of producing pet food...

How corrupt can the Japanese whaling and the Japanese government go?...


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Message 1510772 - Posted: 1 May 2014, 16:08:45 UTC

Exploding whale

Not blaming the Japanese for the demise of this one, but if they were genuinely interested in "whale research"...

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Message 1527956 - Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 10:44:12 UTC

Well the Japanese are at it again as their coastal whaling fleet kills 30 minke whales during the April-June season as part of Japan's northwestern Pacific research hunt. :-(

http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/japan-kills-30-whales-after-icc-ruling/story-e6frfkui-1226954046486

Bloody idiots.

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Message 1527967 - Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 12:53:12 UTC - in response to Message 1498049.

I think it's pretty well established the large marine mammals in this general group are highly sapient.

Why don't they jump over tuna nets?

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Message 1527993 - Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 14:25:44 UTC - in response to Message 1527967.
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I think it's pretty well established the large marine mammals in this general group are highly sapient.

Why don't they jump over tuna nets?


Batter up... Seriously? Do you know anything about purse seine nets, drift nets or dragnets? They're not made to be seen very easily under water, not until it's often too late. :(

I take it you at least like dogs and cats. :) (Me too and I love your signature :))

Do you think you could find a moment to find out a little more about one other creature on this planet, and perhaps start to care about it too? :) Maybe you already do... and it just didn't come across that way...? :)

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Message 1527998 - Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 14:31:45 UTC - in response to Message 1527956.

Well the Japanese are at it again as their coastal whaling fleet kills 30 minke whales during the April-June season as part of Japan's northwestern Pacific research hunt. :-(

http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/japan-kills-30-whales-after-icc-ruling/story-e6frfkui-1226954046486

Bloody idiots.


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I am so angry I don't know what to do with myself! :( Clearly my boycott of all japanese goods is making no difference whatsoever! Back to the drawing board then. Ideas welcome!

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Message 1528037 - Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 16:56:04 UTC - in response to Message 1527993.




Batter up... Seriously? Do you know anything about purse seine nets, drift nets or dragnets? They're not made to be seen very easily under water, not until it's often too late. :(
All I'm pointing out is dolphins aren't "highly sapient". That is a picture of what tuna fisherman have to do to get dolphins out of the nets. The yellow cork flotation is easy to see yet the dolphins have to be herded out of the nets. That said even stupid whales should be protected if they are endangered.
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Message 1528062 - Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 18:24:13 UTC - in response to Message 1528037.

... All I'm pointing out is dolphins aren't "highly sapient". That is a picture of what tuna fisherman have to do to get dolphins out of the nets. The yellow cork flotation is easy to see yet the dolphins have to be herded out of the nets. That said even stupid whales should be protected if they are endangered.

Still no reason to kill them. Let alone to do that killing deliberately unnecessarily painfully.

As for dolphins not leaping out of fishing nets:

Note that they rely on sonar and the nets appear something like a harbor wall. They are far too intelligent to leap out blind onto what they expect to be the shore...

Do not be confused by the starved brutality used to 'train' captured dolphins to blindly do circus tricks in commercial aquariums...


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Message 1528064 - Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 18:33:46 UTC - in response to Message 1528062.

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Message 1528073 - Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 19:17:26 UTC - in response to Message 1528037.
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Batter up... Seriously? Do you know anything about purse seine nets, drift nets or dragnets? They're not made to be seen very easily under water, not until it's often too late. :(
All I'm pointing out is dolphins aren't "highly sapient".

Sapient - aah yes... having great wisdom. Hmm...

Yeah, not sure how I'd feel if, in the middle of minding my own business rustling up a bit of lunch for myself, I discovered I was trapped in an ever tightening net slung around me and my meal, with a load of men shouting incomprehensibly above me and waving...

...might get slightly panicked... and attempt to get out of the trap as far away as possible from them... like at the bottom... which I would only then discover (at the moment I got tangled owing to further reduced visibility) that the net had no exit route. How dumb is that!

That is a picture of what tuna fisherman have to do to get dolphins out of the nets. The yellow cork flotation is easy to see yet the dolphins have to be herded out of the nets.

Oh dear, poor things, all that waving of arms must be exhausting for them. Particularly after all that laziness targeting their nets specifically at dolphin activity because it makes for an easier catch.

That said even stupid whales should be protected if they are endangered.

You see :) I KNEW you cared really! Apologies for doubting that, albeit for a moment :)

Edit: and plus even more plusses than betreger plussed to martins post too :) if that makes any sense? If not - it's because I'm floundering about in the bottom of a hypothetical net :))

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Message 1528131 - Posted: 14 Jun 2014, 23:06:43 UTC - in response to Message 1528073.

I've been to Hawaii five times.

We took a boat several times to see the whale's.

Looked into the eye of a whale. They breathe air like we do.
They give birth to live young like we do. But the similarities seem to stop there. Their scale, body structure, and environment are all different.

The killing of these magnificence mammals, has got to stop. :(

I also go to swim with the Dolphins. Dolphins are highly intelligent marine mammals and are part of the family of toothed whales that includes orcas and pilot whales. They are found worldwide, mostly in shallow seas of the continental shelves, and are carnivores, mostly eating fish and squid. Dolphin coloration varies, but they are generally gray in color with darker backs than the rest of their bodies.

I'm also very disgusted with the continued senseless Japanese whaling corruption.

Karma has a way of making its way back to you. (People who kill mammals) Sometimes, this process is fast, and at other times it can take a lifetime to catch up. But be assured, People who kill mammals, their day will come. What goes around comes around, and you don’t have to do anything except trust that sooner or later justice will be done.
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Message 1528256 - Posted: 15 Jun 2014, 15:01:12 UTC - in response to Message 1528131.

Hi Lynn. :) My escort from Africa (well... when I say "my" - there were about 500 other people on board the same ship :)) was a school of dolphins that joined us soon after leaving the harbour at Cape Town and stayed with us for well over a week. After docking at Swakopmund for the day, I didn't expect to see them again, but they rejoined us the following morning, and seemed to have teamed up with another school by then. That's the closest I have ever got to these fantastic creatures, so am totally jealous you've swum with them :) We had several sightings of whales, always at a distance, but the sense of wonder was immense. The thought that anyone in this day and age can gaze upon that sight and then ready a harpoon makes me weep. :(

Many species of dolphins have been added to the critically endangered species list, alongside their cousins the whales. All through our activities. We're only just starting to learn the complexity of the way they communicate with one another... that dolphins have "names" for one another and have cognitive recognition of themselves in mirrors... that every year some whale species, such as the humpback and blue whale, add a new "phrase" to their song, and they ALL sing the same song wherever they are in the oceans. Their calls travel vast distances, so must their death cries. But dead whales don't sing and quite what value there is in "researching" these animals post-slaughter is beyond me.

I hope you're right with the karma thing, Lynn - but whilst we wait for that to hopefully kick-in, whaling has to stop!

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Message 1528477 - Posted: 16 Jun 2014, 5:39:28 UTC - in response to Message 1528256.

Hi Lynn. :) My escort from Africa (well... when I say "my" - there were about 500 other people on board the same ship :)) was a school of dolphins that joined us soon after leaving the harbour at Cape Town and stayed with us for well over a week. After docking at Swakopmund for the day, I didn't expect to see them again, but they rejoined us the following morning, and seemed to have teamed up with another school by then. That's the closest I have ever got to these fantastic creatures, so am totally jealous you've swum with them :) We had several sightings of whales, always at a distance, but the sense of wonder was immense. The thought that anyone in this day and age can gaze upon that sight and then ready a harpoon makes me weep. :(

Many species of dolphins have been added to the critically endangered species list, alongside their cousins the whales. All through our activities. We're only just starting to learn the complexity of the way they communicate with one another... that dolphins have "names" for one another and have cognitive recognition of themselves in mirrors... that every year some whale species, such as the humpback and blue whale, add a new "phrase" to their song, and they ALL sing the same song wherever they are in the oceans. Their calls travel vast distances, so must their death cries. But dead whales don't sing and quite what value there is in "researching" these animals post-slaughter is beyond me.

I hope you're right with the karma thing, Lynn - but whilst we wait for that to hopefully kick-in, whaling has to stop!


anniet - Africa or South Africa? I always wanted to go there. (Bucket List}
Karma, can be a B****. It works, trust me. The killing of whales and eating them must stop. :(

Poaching, rhino's, elephants, also must come to a halt.
(have a pic of me swimming with Gracie, maybe one day will share)
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Message 1528808 - Posted: 17 Jun 2014, 1:25:01 UTC - in response to Message 1528477.
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anniet - Africa or South Africa? I always wanted to go there. (Bucket List}
Karma, can be a B****. It works, trust me. The killing of whales and eating them must stop. :(

Poaching, rhino's, elephants, also must come to a halt.
(have a pic of me swimming with Gracie, maybe one day will share)


Hi Lynn :) Re: bucket lists, South Africa would be a good one to start off with - particularly the Cape Province :)

I use the term Africa because I lived in so many different African countries (in between being born in Zambia, and finishing secondary school and uni in South Africa) and with no individual country there being able to grant me citizenship because of my parentage :/ in my mind's eye I saw the whole continent as being my "home" :) I do love the UK though, but I think part of me will always be african. As for poaching... GRRRRRRRRRRRRR. In finding ever easier ways to meet the foreign demand for ivory, rhino horn etc, poachers have even resorted to poisoning waterholes with arsenic and cyanide. In a part of the world where water is a scarce resource!!!! :( It's grotesque! It affects every animal species and is having devastating consequences! :( But now I've gone way off-topic... and getting back on topic, I've now gone all green again at the reminder that you've swum with dolphins! :)

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