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James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Ive read that the humans need a gene pool of at least 600 to remain viable. Otherwise geneitic disorders will start to take effect. In North Amereica. The Native Americans where I live allways married someone from another tribe. That had two results, Genetic variation and a bond to the other tribe. You hopefully wont be wont to wipe out the tribe next door where you have relatives. As for the rich they have the resources to build an enclave that we would never know about. But would it be like a caste system like India? Where the guy that runs the waste treatment plant is treated like crap. ( pun intended ) I actually read a science fiction story about that same thing back when I was a teenager. Sorry cant remember the name of the story. When the great die off happens there will allways be pockets of some super adapting regular humans who will live and thrive. Unless the uber rich hunt them down. So they can remain elite. [/quote] Old James |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19014 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
So Global warning is here. National Climate Assessment or in news format; Washington Post UK - Independent Fox News |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20147 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Thanks for that. Is that enough to wake up America? Even Fox News gives a half fair report to then include the inevitable conspiracy theory political ripost... One rather apt comment from the BBC article about the report: Warming 'increasingly disruptive' across US - report "If we don't slam the brakes on the carbon pollution driving climate change, we're dooming ourselves and our children" All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
regular humans who will live and thrive. Unless the uber rich hunt them down. So they can remain elite. Dat GOes Against Da Richie Rich Slaver Mentality. We Don't Kill 'em, ifN We Can Use and Abuse DEM. fO shO. I DO NOT accept Climate Change. Dats why I Condition Air. And wear Appropriate ClOthing Or nOt. As DOne since dA Dawn of Time. ' ' May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19014 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Thanks for that. We know about China but this report was an American Report about America. Nuff said. |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20147 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
So your political excuse is that America blames China, whilst China blames America, both excusing themselves to continue to pollute "because the other is polluting anyway"... And so we all get polluted to hell in a never-ending death spiral of everyone stupidly determined to out-pollute everyone else! Who do we then shoot/nuke first? Stupid or not stupid?... All on our only one planet, Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
If the west leads the way, China will follow, since they copy all our technology regardless. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19014 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Thanks for that. China has a much larger population than the USA, so the real concern is the amount per person, at the moment that is the USA. If you really want China to stop producing CO2 etc. then stop buying goods from them. Like where are your socks made, virtually none are made in the USA or Europe these days. 3/4 of all socks made are produced in 2 countries, Turkey and guess where. Then add in all your electronics goods and solar panels. So by inference a lot of China's carbon footprint is to produce goods sold in the USA and Europe, so shouldn't these figures be taken off China's total and addded to the countries buying the goods. |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
When China is at THE TOP OF THE LIST for the World's concern: Then we will know this entire discussion from the Warmest, is not just Political/Ideological. + 1000 raised to infinity (Hello everyone :)) I haven't bought anything produced in China for a VERY long time. Originally because of their ivory, rhino and tiger trade and for their human rights record, but it works for carbon emissions too. Like where are your socks made, virtually none are made in the USA or Europe these days. 3/4 of all socks made are produced in 2 countries, Turkey and guess where. Er... China? I will darn socks forever before buying ones made in China. (This has collateral benefits... To actively avoid displaying them from a hospital trolley in casualty, I find myself contributing to greater road safety by taking extra care not to go *splat*... like under a bus for instance :) Then add in all your electronics goods and solar panels. Feeling a little mischievous today WinterKnight :) Now THAT is a VERY good idea... *longer than normal think due to woolly-head syndrome* Oooh... that WOULD make for some very interesting figures! :) Lovely chatting yet again :) |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19014 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Feeling a little mischievous today WinterKnight :) Not even started, ever looked at steel production, or electronics production and sales, China, Japan and the other Asia-Pacific countries produce ~66% and buy 33%, The USA, EU and the rest of the World make 33%** and purchase 66%. ** quite often with components produced in China et al. You want components that use Lithium, well only two countries produce it these days Russia and China. And what is the USA doing, trying to sell all its helium asap as cheap as possible. A market that won't go pop: why helium balloons could one day cost £100 each Once the US - which supplies 80 per cent of the world's helium - stops selling off its store at an artificially low price, we have a problem. |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
Feeling a little mischievous today WinterKnight :) Thank you for reminding me - it's been awhile since I have. And of course, wherever there's steel, there's concrete :/ or electronics production and sales, True. To maintain my position on Chinese goods, I know I'm going to find it nigh impossible to replace some items once they stop working. (I don't upgrade unless something breaks and I can't fix it... hence a mobile phone that forces my daughter to walk on the other side of the street when I use it in public :) Does give me more room to veer off at tangents whilst I'm texting! I don't text in darned socks though :) too many busses about.) If something works I see no reason to retire it, and no one has the slightest interest in stealing it either :) I've lived more of my life without technology than I have with - so I could do without most modern gadgets. I would miss SETI and it's setizens though. :( And what is the USA doing, trying to sell all its helium asap as cheap as possible. A market that won't go pop: why helium balloons could one day cost £100 each ... and no funny voices at parties isn't it... |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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MOMMY: He is MAKING ME Read His Posts Thoughts and Prayers. GOoD Thoughts and GOoD Prayers. HATERWORLD Vs THOUGHTs and PRAYERs World. It Is a BATTLE ROYALE. Nobody LOVEs Me. Everybody HATEs Me. Why Don't I Go Eat Worms. Tasty Treats are Wormy Meat. Yes Send message Joined: 16 Jun 02 Posts: 6895 Credit: 6,588,977 RAC: 0 |
And so we all get polluted to hell in a never-ending death spiral of everyone stupidly determined to out-pollute everyone else! Man 'O Live. Dat Beez FUnny. Polluted. Dat means DrUnk, right? I dO nOt Accept the AbOve QuOte. I Flush. I dO nOt thrOw 'it' Out Da windOw intO the street. ' ' May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
And so we all get polluted to hell in a never-ending death spiral of everyone stupidly determined to out-pollute everyone else! Drunk? I do not accept the above quote(s) either. rOZZ Music Pictures |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19014 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Just seen this, 'Nothing can stop retreat' of West Antarctic glaciers |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
Just seen this, 'Nothing can stop retreat' of West Antarctic glaciers OK it's a done deal, close the thread. |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
Just seen this, 'Nothing can stop retreat' of West Antarctic glaciers Off to watch an asteroid hit someone smack between the eyes then? :) Just when I was about to start going on about nitrogen run-off too... *sigh* Mississippi River network's buffering system for nitrates is overwhelmed As a result of its filtration systems being overwhelmed, the river system operates less as a buffer and more as a conveyor belt, transporting nitrates to the Gulf of Mexico. The amount of nitrates flowing into the gulf from the Mississippi has already created the world's second biggest dead zone, an oxygen-depleted area where fish and other aquatic life can't survive. Late edit: :) and this looked interesting too...upward motion of Earth's crust "You would expect this rebound to happen over thousands of years and instead we have been able to measure it in just over a decade. You can almost see it happening which is just incredible. |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
I totally believe in nitrates; they wash from people's fertilized lawns into lakes and make aquatic vegetation grow so fast it has to be harvisted to keep lakes from becoming swamps. This has become a big problem in my lifetime. How do I know? I can see it. We never had this problem when god knows what was dumped anywhere and everywhere. N.J. DEP to take over Lake Hopatcong weed harvest. Harvest is the right word as there is a commercial value to the plants but not enough to cover the cost of removal. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19014 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
In Norfolk, evidence of climate change is in the streets at high tide No, not the English county, but Norfolk, Virginia. Home of the World's largest Naval Base. On May 6, the Obama administration released the third National Climate Assessment, and President Obama proclaimed climate change no longer a theory; its effects, he said, are already here. This came as no surprise in Norfolk, where normal tides have risen 11 / 2 feet over the past century and the sea is rising faster than anywhere else on the East Coast. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19014 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
China says that global warming has reduced the area of frozen ground on the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau by 16%. |
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