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Message 56154 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 2:35:14 UTC
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Folks here have experienced a barrage of posts that look like they are WordWeaver and/or Guido, but when I look at the threads themselves and other threads that discuss the barrage, I see claims that these are not being posted by those two. Other posts, which might have some information, have been deleted. Still other posts complain, then apologise for complaining, but do not make clear why.

Does anyone have the story? Are we seeing ghosts in the shadows or have various spammers returned?
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Message 56157 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 2:38:41 UTC

Summary: People take message boards too seriously.

If you ignore the crazy people on the subway, you'll have a pleasant ride. If you ignore the crazy people on the net, you'll have a nice surf.

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Message 56163 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 2:55:20 UTC - in response to Message 56154.  

> Folks here have experienced a barrage of posts that look like they are
> WordWeaver and/or Guido, but when I look at the threads themselves and other
> threads that discuss the barrage, I see claims that these are not being posted
> by those two. Other posts, which might have some information, have been
> deleted. Still other posts complain, then apologise for complaining, but do
> not make clear why.
>
> Does anyone have the story? Are we seeing ghosts in the shadows or have
> various spammers returned?
>
WW has not returned as of yet! We were phished by Guido "pretending" to WW.
Misfit "discovered" the ruse and Guido finally admitted it.
Some of us thought Guido pretending to be WW WAS WW and made comments. Others yelled and screamed at the supposed WW. When it was found out to be truly Guido some of the screaming and yelling was withdrawn, some said that Guido was wrong for perpuating the WW problems and screamed and yelled some more.

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Message 56166 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 3:06:43 UTC

Thanks for the explanations. As an added benefit, my posting of this question in a new thread pushes the others farther down the list (but I really did not know the answer, I wouldn't post just to push other posts down).
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Message 56171 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 3:17:10 UTC - in response to Message 56163.  

> WW has not returned as of yet! We were phished by Guido "pretending" to WW.
> Misfit "discovered" the ruse and Guido finally admitted it.

Where on the board Guido admitted it was him ? Can't find it.
I for long had the feeling that Guido has been a victim in all
this crap story.
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Message 56173 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 3:20:38 UTC - in response to Message 56154.  

This is the soap opera of SETI

1. Another World
2. As The SETI Turns
3. Days of our SETI
4. The Jerry Springer@SETI Show.

I could go on and on, those listed above are
popular Soap Operas on U.S. Television.

You know its O.K. To Laugh and to Laugh
at ourselves, But the Intent of some has ruined
it for all.

Let’s try again....

I still think all previous threads should be deleted
and we start fresh. I still think a moderator is needed
for the most nasty people that are out to destroy the
board.

I am not giving up on this Board.

Respectfully,

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Message 56174 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 3:23:45 UTC - in response to Message 56171.  


> Where on the board Guido admitted it was him ? Can't find it.
> I for long had the feeling that Guido has been a victim in all
> this crap story.
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He or she erased their posts.
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Message 56177 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 3:30:32 UTC - in response to Message 56173.  

>> I still think all previous threads should be deleted
> and we start fresh. I still think a moderator is needed
> for the most nasty people that are out to destroy the
> board.

From the Rules and Policies section:
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SETI@home and University of California assume no liability for damage to your computer, loss of data, or any other event or condition that may occur as a result of participating in SETI@home.

Timmy,
This seems to cover participation in the message boards. In one of those legal twists that American jurisprudence is famous for, it may be that if SETI@home provides a moderator, they may open themselves to greater liability since the task of moderator probably carries with it a responsibility or a duty to protect users from eachother's libelous, obscene and insulting posts.
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Message 56218 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 9:22:43 UTC - in response to Message 56177.  

> This seems to cover participation in the message boards. In one of those
> legal twists that American jurisprudence is famous for, it may be that if
> SETI@home provides a moderator, they may open themselves to greater liability
> since the task of moderator probably carries with it a responsibility or a
> duty to protect users from eachother's libelous, obscene and insulting posts.

That may very well be true. Before the advent of "samaritan laws", there were many successful lawsuits against people who performed CPR and emergency first aid on strangers only to get sued for not being perfect at it. Tragic to think that walking away while someone dies is the safest bet.
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Message 56219 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 10:16:43 UTC - in response to Message 56177.  

This seems to cover participation in the message boards.
Don't forget that we have our own disclaimers in addition to whatever Berkley has.

Maybe we should consider writing an "official" SETI forum disclaimer for all threads. Sort of like a Constitutional Convention. As it is right now, each thread may or may not have a disclaimer as the thread initiator sees fit.
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Message 56225 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 12:40:01 UTC
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From the Rules and Policies section:
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SETI@home and University of California assume no liability for damage to your computer, loss of data, or any other event or condition that may occur as a result of participating in SETI@home.

Timmy,
This seems to cover participation in the message boards. In one of those legal twists that American jurisprudence is famous for, it may be that if SETI@home provides a moderator, they may open themselves to greater liability since the task of moderator probably carries with it a responsibility or a duty to protect users from each other's libelous, obscene and insulting posts.
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I agree Tom, personally I don't see why Forum Members put their own disclaimer in the threads, they don't mean diddle squat when it comes down to it. None of these people work for in any capacity or are authorized by the University of California to represent the University in any way shape or form legally ...

The self made Legal Mumbo Jumbo the Forum Members put in these Threads would absolve the University of nothing in a court of law, the only Disclaimer that means anything is the one the University puts out on their own and all the others put out by Forum Members are nothing more than a waste of good Thread Space ...
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Message 56231 - Posted: 21 Dec 2004, 13:36:15 UTC
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Let people be for 5 minutes? every time they will F$%^ it up... Even the so called responsible ones will do it. Never Fall's.


This is one of the constance in the universe that NASA/and about every one constantly over looks.


Any think that can go wrong. Will go wrong!!!!!



In short.. people need baby sitters!













REBELLIOUS GAMES FOR REBELLIOUS GAMERS
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