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Message 1493323 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 12:05:11 UTC - in response to Message 1493298.  

I am sure that the person behind Kenzie/Allie meant no harm or malice to anybody here, or indeed the Seti project itself. In fact as Fred has already pointed out in his very thoughtfully written announcement, their actions were quite the opposite. I had some internet contact with Kenzie for various reasons, but I have no regrets on that front at all.

I am not angry like some, and I am not interested in any retribution either, but I do have a problem in seeing that any of it is funny or amusing. I would say that I am mainly bewildered and philosophical about it all, and simply never expected that anything like this would ever happen.

But I do think that it is now time to take some of the the heat out of this and accept that it has happened, and come to terms with it. And that has started to occur with some aside banter, which I added to myself. Like Bernie, I do not believe that anyone will post on Seti admitting they were behind it, and perhaps that is for the best. It would only drag this saga on unnecessarily.

We must be getting close to the time when anyone that needs to know the situation has done so, and made comments if they wish. I think it would be counter productive to leave this thread open for months to come, but that is of course a decision for Fred to make. Bernie has already offered to accept PM's from anyone that wants to check matters or wants further details, and if he is happy for that to continue, then that could be the best way forward from here on.

Whoever or whatever Kenzie is or was, I have kind memories, and I shall attempt to draw a line under it all on that basis.

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Im hoping that 20 years from now I will still be around talking about the great Seti scandal.:)

I also hope that you are around in 20 years, but I hope we won't still be talking about the "Great scandal", that won't be doing the project any long term favours. We recovered from the NEZ business and we will from this. I don't think we should dramatise it more than necessary.

Perhaps an initial "summing up" post from Fred could be welcome at this stage??

That would be appropriate, if he should decide to do so.
I do not seek retribution either. One cannot be repaid grief.
I have suffered such, and simply sought to diminish it a bit.
I cannot ever regain my innocence again...........
If indeed I ever had such. Cannot recall.

At this point, I should think that it would be wonderful if the person who took us all for almost 7 years should come clean, admit what they have done, and engage in some discussion with us.
I invite them to do so.

I am sure that the vitriol shall die down if they would only present themselves.
We are a rather forgiving lot, we Setizens. As I have learned well.

If I can save face at times, they can too. You are envied by many for your storytelling. The manner in which you did it was not kind.
But, I know you are reading this, and I wish to extend to you my hand.
We wish to know your story, friend. You can tell it, if you wish.

Mark I feel pretty sure that frothy emotional appeals to this troll will have as much of an affect as the frothy emotional appeals to you to do something about you banishment causing problem.
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Message 1493356 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 13:00:25 UTC

Whoever or whatever Kenzie is or was, I have kind memories, and I shall attempt to draw a line under it all on that basis.


+1 definitely
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Message 1493414 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 16:20:53 UTC - in response to Message 1493290.  

I totally agree with Chris.
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Message 1493416 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 16:24:12 UTC - in response to Message 1493350.  

That's a little unkind Monday, although I'm sure well meant. Perhaps more reason to think about the future end of this thread?

LOL...I have reason to believe that some shall be unkind to me from time to time.
I guess I have earned the privilege.
No worries, the kittyman has quite wide shoulders in that regard.
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Message 1493436 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 17:04:22 UTC - in response to Message 1493269.  

I hate to bring this up. But quite a few of those photos were posted in the Angelas Cafe site. And those are from the said models.
I dont recall AKA kenzie ever posting a pic in the cafe side of Seti, Except for the few that were psoted of high heels and or boots. And if my memory is correct even her profile picture was allways pixalatted so you could not see squat.
Im hoping that 20 years from now I will still be around talking about the great Seti scandal.:)

I've seen lots of pictures of her and her supposed girlfriend posted here, if any were posted on the Angela's Cafe site I wouldn't have seen them.

The Allie character is also clearly a fake. There are too many inconsistencies. Her age keeps changing. She claims she is studying stuff way above her grade level but for some reason can't spell. She was upset that she didn't get an A+ for her math but Vancouver School board doesn't give out A+ grades.

The same person is clearly behind all the accounts, and it is a man. How much he told people about himself was true and how much stolen from others I guess we'll never know unless he tells us. Which doesn't look likely right now.
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Message 1493442 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 17:10:34 UTC - in response to Message 1493436.  

I hate to bring this up. But quite a few of those photos were posted in the Angelas Cafe site. And those are from the said models.
I dont recall AKA kenzie ever posting a pic in the cafe side of Seti, Except for the few that were psoted of high heels and or boots. And if my memory is correct even her profile picture was allways pixalatted so you could not see squat.
Im hoping that 20 years from now I will still be around talking about the great Seti scandal.:)

I've seen lots of pictures of her and her supposed girlfriend posted here, if any were posted on the Angela's Cafe site I wouldn't have seen them.

The Allie character is also clearly a fake. There are too many inconsistencies. Her age keeps changing. She claims she is studying stuff way above her grade level but for some reason can't spell. She was upset that she didn't get an A+ for her math but Vancouver School board doesn't give out A+ grades.

The same person is clearly behind all the accounts, and it is a man. How much he told people about himself was true and how much stolen from others I guess we'll never know unless he tells us. Which doesn't look likely right now.

LOL...we can only extend the hand and see if they accept it.
I am sure they are lurking here. After 7 years or so of efforts, I have no doubt that they are wondering about the fallout.

And now that so many have expressed a bit of forgiveness and simply would like to hear their side of things, I have optimism that when the time is right for them, we may hear it.
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Message 1493447 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 17:16:34 UTC

So perhaps the story told by Allie is partially true and only photos were faked. Allie told us that “She was always uncomfortable about her looks” due to a car accident that left scars on her face.

Allie/aka_sam is a man 100% no doubt. I may not post proof. aka_sam posted a link to his real picture, it is there for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. It appears we are still in the denial phase.
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Message 1493497 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 18:54:08 UTC - in response to Message 1493447.  
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aka_sam's picture and profile at cosmologyathome.org

http://www.cosmologyathome.org/view_profile.php?userid=10599

Is this our kenzie? unbelievable. I take back my redemption theory.
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Message 1493506 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:01:09 UTC - in response to Message 1493497.  

aka_sam's picture and profile at cosmologyathome.org

http://www.cosmologyathome.org/view_profile.php?userid=10599

Is this our kenzie? unbelievable. I take back my redemption theory.

Well without any evidence to prove otherwise it would seem so!

I found it surprising as well!

I would still like an explanation.
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Message 1493507 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:03:37 UTC - in response to Message 1493501.  

aka_sam's picture and profile at cosmologyathome.org

http://www.cosmologyathome.org/view_profile.php?userid=10599

Is this our kenzie? unbelievable. I take back my redemption theory.


Hey, it's Allie too :-)
Oh my, what a mess....
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IF it is, he has retreated now.
All links appear to be broken.

I for one, would welcome him to this forum.
I think he could enchant us with his take on life and why he did it.

Please, I and most others would welcome you here now.
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Message 1493508 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:05:11 UTC

I find it hilarious that as long as you all thought he was a pretty girl everything was ok.

Perhaps you all need to stop and think about your expectations of gender and why it should make a difference as to how you treat someone?

Someone should write a case study on this because its fascinating.
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Message 1493510 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:07:51 UTC

All links appear to be broken.

Well not quite all

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view_profile.php?userid=9943855
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Message 1493515 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:11:10 UTC - in response to Message 1493508.  
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I find it hilarious that as long as you all thought he was a pretty girl everything was ok.

Perhaps you all need to stop and think about your expectations of gender and why it should make a difference as to how you treat someone?

Someone should write a case study on this because its fascinating.


Which is why I invite him/her/or otherwise to enlighten us now.

I really think that some discourse with this individual soul would be rather nice.
They obviously have to be of above average intelligence to have pulled this off.
And of a very creative bent as well.
I am WAY beyond my bit of anger now.
All has been forgiven at least by me.

I now just would like to have some input from the one who created kb.
You really missed your calling, dude. LOL.
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Message 1493517 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:14:09 UTC - in response to Message 1493515.  

I find it hilarious that as long as you all thought he was a pretty girl everything was ok.

Perhaps you all need to stop and think about your expectations of gender and why it should make a difference as to how you treat someone?

Someone should write a case study on this because its fascinating.


Which is why I invite him/her/or otherwise to enlighten us now.

I really think that some discourse with this individual soul would be rather nice.
They obviously have to be of above average intelligence to have pulled this off.
And of a very creative bent as well.
I am WAY beyond my bit of anger now.
All has been forgiven at least by me.

I now just would like to have some input from the one who created kb.
You really missed your calling, dude. LOL.

I'm with you on this.

There must be a lot of Kenzie in him, wouldn't everyone just want Kenzie back even if she now has a beard??
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Message 1493519 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:15:54 UTC - in response to Message 1493513.  

All links appear to be broken.

Well not quite all

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/view_profile.php?userid=9943855


So, the pic of Patrice, which model is that then Bernie. Sleuthing please....

That actually is a model called Patrice Bowler who of course lives and works in Vancouver at the Vancouver Circus School.

That info just like all the rest I found is freely available on the internet, no hacking required. A bit scary really.
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Message 1493520 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:16:29 UTC - in response to Message 1493513.  

this whole family is really confusing to say the least.
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Message 1493524 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:19:46 UTC - in response to Message 1493517.  



There must be a lot of Kenzie in him, wouldn't everyone just want Kenzie back even if she now has a beard??

Now YOU are getting somewhat cosmic. I like it, ES....LOL.
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Message 1493527 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:23:08 UTC

LOL.............
It's her HUSBAND???
Oh fing wow.

Oh simply wow.

Come forth and talk to us, dude.
You are the man.

We luv ya.
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Message 1493533 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:28:56 UTC
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There must be a lot of Kenzie in him, wouldn't everyone just want Kenzie back even if she now has a beard??


I don't believe some here could "forgive and forget".

I too would like answers and perhaps an insight into how and why.

I believe that his job as a photographer working with lots of outgoing young women must have had a big influence, possibly even to the photos he chose. Perhaps in his mind Samantha Lightfoot was Allie as Hunter Reilly became the final Kenzie. I suspect we will never know.

In my report the last line is

I believe he made a mistake in killing Kenzie off the one big mistake, that led me on a trail of beautiful women to one who never existed but still touched many lives.
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Message 1493536 - Posted: 22 Mar 2014, 19:31:42 UTC - in response to Message 1493534.  

LOL.............
It's her HUSBAND???
Oh fing wow.

Oh simply wow.

Come forth and talk to us, dude.
You are the man.

We luv ya.


Of course Patrice is not his Wife. It's another model, and the Patrice account is also controlled by aka_sam.

Yes that seems likely, there are LOTS of photos of Patrice on the internet that I could not link to!!
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