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Message 1491659 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 3:57:10 UTC - in response to Message 1491587.  

Kenzie was among us for a long time and was much loved by people. Its the same person we are talking about here, fact or fiction, whoever the person was they must have put a lot of themselves into being Kenzie to be able to keep the charade up for so long.

Kenzie is a fat middle aged man who photographs children and then use their pictures for his own sick ends. Do you still love her?


All we really know is that the creator of "kenzie et al" is a professional photographer.

I too am curious as to the motivations behind his creation of so many interesting internet characters, but if he does not wish to share his motivations, then I shall respect his privacy.
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Message 1491663 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 4:12:16 UTC - in response to Message 1491638.  

In the interests of full disclosure, I wish to state that I really am Bill Walker, and I really am the only legitimate heir to the Romanian throne.


Not so fast there, Mister Walker! I am Angela the Hun and by right of inheritance I am Queen Of All Of Europe... and on Fridays I am the REAL Anastasia. If you persist in posting your self-proclaimed delusions of grandeur I shall sic my raccoon minions upon the frozen tundra wasteland that is Canada, and make your home a satellite of my growing empire.
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Message 1491668 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 4:25:18 UTC - in response to Message 1491663.  

the frozen tundra wasteland that is Canada,


It seems there is a lot of that sort of thing
going around this winter......
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Message 1491679 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 5:05:53 UTC - in response to Message 1491494.  

Killjoy :-(

Was about to call you Kenzie.

Again with the Klingons.
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Message 1491690 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 5:31:39 UTC

Now that Ive slept on this, And read all the posts. Im going to just chalk it up to learning a lesson.

There were some aspersions cast upon our Team Racoon, I thought were over the top, Yes aka was a member. But how do you vette anyone on the internet? And why would you at a volunteer project.

Im like Celt, I come from an age where a handshake was your word and bond. And it meant something back then. Silly us.

I would like to know why the decption, But I doubt we will get one. And I wont lose any sleep over it if we dont.

And all the bad puns I used over the years I should have used a fake name:)
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Message 1491713 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 6:41:09 UTC - in response to Message 1491690.  

Now that Ive slept on this, And read all the posts. Im going to just chalk it up to learning a lesson.

There were some aspersions cast upon our Team Racoon, I thought were over the top, Yes aka was a member. But how do you vette anyone on the internet? And why would you at a volunteer project.

Im like Celt, I come from an age where a handshake was your word and bond. And it meant something back then. Silly us.

I would like to know why the decption, But I doubt we will get one. And I wont lose any sleep over it if we dont.

And all the bad puns I used over the years I should have used a fake name:)

I've used 'fake names' or as they are called on Forums 'handles' off and on since at least 1980 online, but then I predate the net, I used to dial out to the Forums predecessor the BBS(Bulletin Board System).

@ Angela, the twice deposed Pun Queen, I say Hi... This is your favorite deposer.
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Message 1491735 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 7:48:59 UTC
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Bernie--please tell me if you have seen the exact wording of the contracts from the models/subjects?


As the person concerned is a professional photographer and I do not believe he is stupid, then this is a standard model release form, look on the internet, there are lots of versions that all basically say the same thing

THIS MODEL AGREEMENT AND RELEASE (“Agreement”) is dated ___________ and is between the undersigned
photographer (“Photographer”) and the undersigned model/performer (“I”). Agreement as follows:
For good and valuable consideration of ___________________________________ I hereby grant the undersigned
Photographer permission to photograph me. I further give my irrevocable consent to Photographer and his/her direct or
indirect licensees and assignees to publish, republish or otherwise transmit the images of myself in any medium for all
purposes throughout the world. I understand that the images may be altered or modified in any manner. I hereby waive
any right that I may have to inspect and approve a finished product or the copy that may be used in connection with an
image that the Photographer has taken of me, or the use to which it may be applied. I further release the Photographer
and his/her direct or indirect licensees and assignees, from any claims for remuneration
Associated with any form of damage, foreseen or unforseen, associated with the use of the images.
I am of legal age and have the full legal capacity to execute this authorization without the consent or knowledge of any
other person.


The model waives ALL rights even to the name on the picture being changed and being altered in any way.

Blurf you are seeking revenge, and I do not think you will get it, learn and move on.

I contacted Fred because I believed all of you who knew and liked the Kenzie persona need to know the truth, not to engage in witch hunts, I will not support that. Kenzie/Allie never existed, who the pictures were of is now irrelevant.

Most of us were fooled for years, we now know the truth, unfortunately you cannot actually believe anybody you meet on the internet, until you either meet them in person or meet someone who has met them and has been photographed with them. So currently there are around 8 people on SETI who I consider my friends 2 I am not sure about, and the rest, while you might be who you say you are and might be trustworthy I just do not know and reserve judgement and however you ask and whatever your cause I will never send money to you.
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Message 1491746 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 8:20:17 UTC - in response to Message 1491690.  

Now that Ive slept on this, And read all the posts. Im going to just chalk it up to learning a lesson.

Yeah, me too. Got fooled big time. Live and learn.

Some of you saw red flags and warning signs. I didn't, probably becasue I wasn't looking for them. Call me naive, but even after almost 60 years on this rock, I take people at face value unless/until i have good reason not to. That's probably not gong to change. I yam what I yam, as Popeye would say.

I'm also concerned by the level of vitriol in this thread. We don't know all the facts, maybe never will, but some here seem ready to have the perpetrator of this hoax arrested for child molestation. No evidence presented to support that charge. 15 & 16 year-old girls become photographers' models all the time, usually with their parents' consent and supervision. Let's not expend anger that isn't warranted. Anger and hatred take a lot of psychic energy, I have better things to do with mine. Does this guy owe us an apology and an explanation for his fraud? Sure, and I'd very much like to hear it, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it. I'm not going to let this guy hold my life hostage. We come here to enjoy each other's company. Lets return to that.
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Message 1491747 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 8:21:21 UTC

And all the bad puns I used over the years I should have used a fake name:)


Hahahaha, too late now I guess:))
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Message 1491756 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 8:33:48 UTC - in response to Message 1491747.  

And all the bad puns I used over the years I should have used a fake name:)

Hahahaha, too late now I guess:))

Yeah, you told 'em, you should own 'em.
Especially if you got good response out of them.....
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Message 1491758 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 8:39:50 UTC - in response to Message 1491354.  

Did anyone ask this of you Blurf? Do you have permission from Seti?
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Message 1491765 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 9:04:39 UTC

I assume all posters are pimple faced guys living in their mothers basement so he didn't fool me.




My profile pic is me, I assure you. Nothing fake here.
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Message 1491780 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 10:00:33 UTC - in response to Message 1491663.  

In the interests of full disclosure, I wish to state that I really am Bill Walker, and I really am the only legitimate heir to the Romanian throne.


Not so fast there, Mister Walker! I am Angela the Hun and by right of inheritance I am Queen Of All Of Europe... and on Fridays I am the REAL Anastasia. If you persist in posting your self-proclaimed delusions of grandeur I shall sic my raccoon minions upon the frozen tundra wasteland that is Canada, and make your home a satellite of my growing empire.


Your majesty! You're a raccoon! :)
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Message 1491790 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 10:44:47 UTC
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I have to agree, there is too much vitrol going on here.

Look at it this way, had this been a novel, many of you would have said what interesting characters.

Personally, I think whoever it is should stop taking photographs and write books, he/she would make a lot more money.

I still salute that person for being able to write and entertain people for over seven years, and as SetiForums has stated, they served the project well.

How about focusing on these points rather than any perceived fraud or child molesting which so far looks unfounded.

Humour takes away a lot of pain. Try it and you will end up laughing.

Edit:-

Just realised, this account of mine magically appeared here in June 2007...

...ssssh, could I be Kenzie?
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Message 1491851 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 14:53:34 UTC - in response to Message 1491758.  

Did anyone ask this of you Blurf? Do you have permission from Seti?

Unless there is a lawful restraining order in place he doesn't need permission from Seti to contact anybody.

Go for it, Pete!
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Message 1491858 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 15:20:10 UTC - in response to Message 1491851.  

Did anyone ask this of you Blurf? Do you have permission from Seti?

Unless there is a lawful restraining order in place he doesn't need permission from Seti to contact anybody.

Go for it, Pete!


But if all legal requirements have been met under copyright laws, he'll just be interfering needlessly and could create problems for himself.

So far, the impression that he is giving is vengeful and that old quote regarding revenge comes to mind...

'Dig two graves"

Unless legal information is provided that deliberate attempts at fraud or copyright infringement were made, it is best to let sleeping dogs lie.

As for the child statements, according to the modelling sites, Hunter Reilly is 25 years old and with this issue being ongoing for seven years, made her 18 then, so legal requirements in that respect have been met.

Personally Blurf, drop it. We were all caught, for you to continue.......
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Message 1491879 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 16:12:30 UTC - in response to Message 1491663.  

In the interests of full disclosure, I wish to state that I really am Bill Walker, and I really am the only legitimate heir to the Romanian throne.


Not so fast there, Mister Walker! I am Angela the Hun and by right of inheritance I am Queen Of All Of Europe... and on Fridays I am the REAL Anastasia. If you persist in posting your self-proclaimed delusions of grandeur I shall sic my raccoon minions upon the frozen tundra wasteland that is Canada, and make your home a satellite of my growing empire.

Angela and Bill ... you guys are the greatest :) LOL

I have never laughed out Load so much :) ... I guess I have lived a sheltered life LOL :)

Best Wishes
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Message 1491880 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 16:15:08 UTC - in response to Message 1491876.  
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That is the third succulent post made on these boards this year. It would be nice to see many more.

For those interested Chris can confirm that my new avatar is actually what I look like.

Edit: @Bryon

Thanks for proving my point about humour LOL.
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Message 1491887 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 16:27:15 UTC
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For those interested Chris can confirm that my new avatar is actually what I look like.


Now where did he lose his glasses now...;)
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Message 1491894 - Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 16:29:40 UTC - in response to Message 1491887.  

For those interested Chris can confirm that my new avatar is actually what I look like.


Now where did he lose his glasses now...;)

I'm wearing them, but don't tell him :-)
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