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Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
Kenzie was among us for a long time and was much loved by people. Its the same person we are talking about here, fact or fiction, whoever the person was they must have put a lot of themselves into being Kenzie to be able to keep the charade up for so long. All we really know is that the creator of "kenzie et al" is a professional photographer. I too am curious as to the motivations behind his creation of so many interesting internet characters, but if he does not wish to share his motivations, then I shall respect his privacy. |
Angela Send message Joined: 16 Oct 07 Posts: 13130 Credit: 39,854,104 RAC: 31 |
In the interests of full disclosure, I wish to state that I really am Bill Walker, and I really am the only legitimate heir to the Romanian throne. Not so fast there, Mister Walker! I am Angela the Hun and by right of inheritance I am Queen Of All Of Europe... and on Fridays I am the REAL Anastasia. If you persist in posting your self-proclaimed delusions of grandeur I shall sic my raccoon minions upon the frozen tundra wasteland that is Canada, and make your home a satellite of my growing empire. |
celttooth Send message Joined: 21 Nov 99 Posts: 26503 Credit: 28,583,098 RAC: 0 |
the frozen tundra wasteland that is Canada, It seems there is a lot of that sort of thing going around this winter...... |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
Killjoy :-( Again with the Klingons. me@rescam.org |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Now that Ive slept on this, And read all the posts. Im going to just chalk it up to learning a lesson. There were some aspersions cast upon our Team Racoon, I thought were over the top, Yes aka was a member. But how do you vette anyone on the internet? And why would you at a volunteer project. Im like Celt, I come from an age where a handshake was your word and bond. And it meant something back then. Silly us. I would like to know why the decption, But I doubt we will get one. And I wont lose any sleep over it if we dont. And all the bad puns I used over the years I should have used a fake name:) [/quote] Old James |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65746 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Now that Ive slept on this, And read all the posts. Im going to just chalk it up to learning a lesson. I've used 'fake names' or as they are called on Forums 'handles' off and on since at least 1980 online, but then I predate the net, I used to dial out to the Forums predecessor the BBS(Bulletin Board System). @ Angela, the twice deposed Pun Queen, I say Hi... This is your favorite deposer. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Bernie--please tell me if you have seen the exact wording of the contracts from the models/subjects? As the person concerned is a professional photographer and I do not believe he is stupid, then this is a standard model release form, look on the internet, there are lots of versions that all basically say the same thing THIS MODEL AGREEMENT AND RELEASE (“Agreementâ€) is dated ___________ and is between the undersigned The model waives ALL rights even to the name on the picture being changed and being altered in any way. Blurf you are seeking revenge, and I do not think you will get it, learn and move on. I contacted Fred because I believed all of you who knew and liked the Kenzie persona need to know the truth, not to engage in witch hunts, I will not support that. Kenzie/Allie never existed, who the pictures were of is now irrelevant. Most of us were fooled for years, we now know the truth, unfortunately you cannot actually believe anybody you meet on the internet, until you either meet them in person or meet someone who has met them and has been photographed with them. So currently there are around 8 people on SETI who I consider my friends 2 I am not sure about, and the rest, while you might be who you say you are and might be trustworthy I just do not know and reserve judgement and however you ask and whatever your cause I will never send money to you. |
Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
Now that Ive slept on this, And read all the posts. Im going to just chalk it up to learning a lesson. Yeah, me too. Got fooled big time. Live and learn. Some of you saw red flags and warning signs. I didn't, probably becasue I wasn't looking for them. Call me naive, but even after almost 60 years on this rock, I take people at face value unless/until i have good reason not to. That's probably not gong to change. I yam what I yam, as Popeye would say. I'm also concerned by the level of vitriol in this thread. We don't know all the facts, maybe never will, but some here seem ready to have the perpetrator of this hoax arrested for child molestation. No evidence presented to support that charge. 15 & 16 year-old girls become photographers' models all the time, usually with their parents' consent and supervision. Let's not expend anger that isn't warranted. Anger and hatred take a lot of psychic energy, I have better things to do with mine. Does this guy owe us an apology and an explanation for his fraud? Sure, and I'd very much like to hear it, but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it. I'm not going to let this guy hold my life hostage. We come here to enjoy each other's company. Lets return to that. Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Donald L. Johnson Send message Joined: 5 Aug 02 Posts: 8240 Credit: 14,654,533 RAC: 20 |
And all the bad puns I used over the years I should have used a fake name:) Yeah, you told 'em, you should own 'em. Especially if you got good response out of them..... Donald Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired |
Uli Send message Joined: 6 Feb 00 Posts: 10923 Credit: 5,996,015 RAC: 1 |
Did anyone ask this of you Blurf? Do you have permission from Seti? Pluto will always be a planet to me. Seti Ambassador Not to late to order an Anni Shirt |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
In the interests of full disclosure, I wish to state that I really am Bill Walker, and I really am the only legitimate heir to the Romanian throne. Your majesty! You're a raccoon! :) |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I have to agree, there is too much vitrol going on here. Look at it this way, had this been a novel, many of you would have said what interesting characters. Personally, I think whoever it is should stop taking photographs and write books, he/she would make a lot more money. I still salute that person for being able to write and entertain people for over seven years, and as SetiForums has stated, they served the project well. How about focusing on these points rather than any perceived fraud or child molesting which so far looks unfounded. Humour takes away a lot of pain. Try it and you will end up laughing. Edit:- Just realised, this account of mine magically appeared here in June 2007... ...ssssh, could I be Kenzie? |
Misfit Send message Joined: 21 Jun 01 Posts: 21804 Credit: 2,815,091 RAC: 0 |
Did anyone ask this of you Blurf? Do you have permission from Seti? Unless there is a lawful restraining order in place he doesn't need permission from Seti to contact anybody. Go for it, Pete! me@rescam.org |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Did anyone ask this of you Blurf? Do you have permission from Seti? But if all legal requirements have been met under copyright laws, he'll just be interfering needlessly and could create problems for himself. So far, the impression that he is giving is vengeful and that old quote regarding revenge comes to mind... 'Dig two graves" Unless legal information is provided that deliberate attempts at fraud or copyright infringement were made, it is best to let sleeping dogs lie. As for the child statements, according to the modelling sites, Hunter Reilly is 25 years old and with this issue being ongoing for seven years, made her 18 then, so legal requirements in that respect have been met. Personally Blurf, drop it. We were all caught, for you to continue....... |
Byron Leigh Hatch @ team Carl Sagan Send message Joined: 5 Jul 99 Posts: 4548 Credit: 35,667,570 RAC: 4 |
In the interests of full disclosure, I wish to state that I really am Bill Walker, and I really am the only legitimate heir to the Romanian throne. Angela and Bill ... you guys are the greatest :) LOL I have never laughed out Load so much :) ... I guess I have lived a sheltered life LOL :) Best Wishes Byron |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
That is the third succulent post made on these boards this year. It would be nice to see many more. For those interested Chris can confirm that my new avatar is actually what I look like. Edit: @Bryon Thanks for proving my point about humour LOL. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
For those interested Chris can confirm that my new avatar is actually what I look like. I'm wearing them, but don't tell him :-) |
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