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Message 1716576 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 18:33:01 UTC - in response to Message 1716567.  

Edit: Also, I did not say it, just agreed with it :-)

But you never sourced it to begin with, making it appear you were the author.
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Message 1716578 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 18:36:05 UTC - in response to Message 1716576.  
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Edit: Also, I did not say it, just agreed with it :-)

But you never sourced it to begin with, making it appear you were the author.

Check my post again, it actually quoted another post which had a report - that report ...

Edit: - Also, do you know what these mean? ""
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Message 1716587 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 18:48:43 UTC - in response to Message 1716582.  

I'm pretty positive that all my posts over the years have included "" whenever I quote comments from links either referred to on others posts or those that have been quoted.

"" are quotation Marks for those who are unaware of them. I believe in the States they just use ' '

As for a truce, I did not know there was a war - saying that, no war can be successfully won without Logistics :-)
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Message 1716596 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 19:19:30 UTC

With all that is coming to light, I'm very surprised that there will be no prosecutions.

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It won't be long before the security at airports will be extended to train stations.

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Message 1716838 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 6:53:54 UTC - in response to Message 1716578.  
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Sirius B wrote:
Gary Charpentier wrote:
Sirius B wrote:
Edit: Also, I did not say it, just agreed with it :-)

But you never sourced it to begin with, making it appear you were the author.

Check my post again, it actually quoted another post which had a report - that report ...

Edit: - Also, do you know what these mean? ""

Oh, I saw them, and an article in which not one word of the material appears. Upon doing a find for a phrase in the material on the page with the article, I'm taken past some advertising, which usually signals the end of anything, to another place on the page, so it does appear to be there. You might have said it was an anonymous user comment left on the article. Being in that form however, you still might be the author of the comment. Not that it matters.

Ed, see an example of quote bbcode in this post.
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Message 1716845 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 7:15:59 UTC
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http://abc7.com/news/1-killed-5-injured-in-multi-car-crash-on-60-freeway-in-boyle-heights/951588/
The photo tells most of the story. Box truck sitting on top of two cars. Well the major parts of two cars. By the time the photo was taken the fire department had pulled them out and cut them open to get people out.

Only two ways this happens. But some background. The ramp you see merging on there is one I use leaving work. The freeway begins a slight rise and slight right curve just before there. It is right before it branches into three directions. At that hour the left lanes which go to the Santa Monica 10 freeway are usually coming to a stop. The center and right lanes are usually free flowing, center goes to the Hollywood 101 freeway and the right lane to the Golden State 5 freeway.

Only two ways this happens:
1) Truck is going in the center lanes and some dolt who is in the backup pulls out in front of the truck without looking in his mirror.

2) Truck driver is head down reading the text message with his next destination or his wife's message and plows full speed into the stopped traffic.

I guess I should allow a third, mechanical failure, although unlikely.
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Message 1716934 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 14:48:41 UTC - in response to Message 1716884.  

Ooooops ....

Ouch

Isn't that a jobs bill for the UK?
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Message 1716955 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 15:38:58 UTC - in response to Message 1716838.  

Fascinating :-)

Articles/reports/links posted on a forum for all to comment on - those comments read & commented on where applicable, yet no one reads the comments in the reports/articles/links? Hmmm...

...had they did so in this instance, they would have seen the commenter identified :-)

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Think it's about time they set height restrictions for aerobatics.
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Message 1717382 - Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 16:09:45 UTC - in response to Message 1716955.  

Think it's about time they set height restrictions for aerobatics.

What makes you think they haven't?

The restriction that is needed is to keep buildings, hence people, away from airports.
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Message 1717404 - Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 16:59:15 UTC - in response to Message 1717382.  

Think it's about time they set height restrictions for aerobatics.

What makes you think they haven't?

The restriction that is needed is to keep buildings, hence people, away from airports.

Hmmm, I've never seen a 747 do aerobatics at Heathrow or Gatwick.
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Message 1717418 - Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 17:38:32 UTC - in response to Message 1717404.  

Think it's about time they set height restrictions for aerobatics.

What makes you think they haven't?

The restriction that is needed is to keep buildings, hence people, away from airports.

Hmmm, I've never seen a 747 do aerobatics at Heathrow or Gatwick.

I've only seen a 707 do a barrel roll and then it was on youtube.
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Message 1717432 - Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 18:02:31 UTC - in response to Message 1717404.  

Think it's about time they set height restrictions for aerobatics.

What makes you think they haven't?

The restriction that is needed is to keep buildings, hence people, away from airports.

Hmmm, I've never seen a 747 do aerobatics at Heathrow or Gatwick.

Perhaps because they are not certified for acrobatic flight?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_factor_%28aeronautics%29#Design_standards

http://rgl.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/RGFAR.NSF/0/9c54cb14e91a41b8852566cf0067b9fe!OpenDocument
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Message 1717491 - Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 20:27:51 UTC - in response to Message 1717432.  
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What about main roads (Freeways) as that was where it crashed.

Edit: - Gotta love this one

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Message 1717778 - Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 15:32:46 UTC - in response to Message 1717382.  

Think it's about time they set height restrictions for aerobatics.

What makes you think they haven't?

The restriction that is needed is to keep buildings, hence people, away from airports.

That was fast.

Restrictions announced
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Message 1717792 - Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 16:00:46 UTC - in response to Message 1717778.  

Think it's about time they set height restrictions for aerobatics.

What makes you think they haven't?

The restriction that is needed is to keep buildings, hence people, away from airports.

That was fast.

Restrictions announced

BTW it isn't just vintage jets flown by retired jocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keCnK4kh65U
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Message 1718166 - Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 14:15:50 UTC - in response to Message 1716587.  

I'm pretty positive that all my posts over the years have included "" whenever I quote comments from links either referred to on others posts or those that have been quoted.

"" are quotation Marks for those who are unaware of them. I believe in the States they just use ' '

On the contrary, we use "" (at least those of us who give a fart about grammar and such). I always thought you lot used singles. When I was a young Dr. Who fan, I acquired several Who novels (mainly novelizations of TV episodes). Some were published in the US and had " like all my other books, while others were imported from England and used ' where I expected ".
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Message 1725607 - Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 7:15:01 UTC
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A question (probably for Sirius)
On the M6 across Birmingham in the rush hours the hard shoulders are open to allow four lanes of traffic. Sixty mph signs posted over all lanes. But I rarely see anyone using the (very) empty hard shoulder (which is effectively lane 1). Is there any LEGAL reason why, in this very specific situation, traffic should not be using the hard shoulder?
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Message 1725618 - Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 10:19:59 UTC - in response to Message 1725607.  

A question (probably for Sirius)
On the M6 across Birmingham in the rush hours the hard shoulders are open to allow four lanes of traffic. Sixty mph signs posted over all lanes. But I rarely see anyone using the (very) empty hard shoulder (which is effectively lane 1). Is there any LEGAL reason why, in this very specific situation, traffic should not be using the hard shoulder?

None that I know of Rob. Have done that many times over the years, especially where accidents have occurred. This might sound daft but the only reason I can think of is that people are too scared of getting a ticket & unaware that the police have the authority to open the hard shoulder.

There are a lot of drivers out there who really do not understand the highway code & are too set in their ways.
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Message 1725628 - Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 10:56:27 UTC - in response to Message 1725618.  

I'd agree that it's mostly psychology. The same thing happens on the bus lanes round here: there are clear and repeated signs saying when bus-lane rules apply, usually two hours in either the morning or the evening rush hour, five days a week.

The other 158 hours of the week, the timid drivers still avoid them. During the 10 hours when it's illegal, there's a noticeably higher occupation by the rich and aggressive drivers (usually heading for a rat-run at the next turning).
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Message 1725673 - Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 14:26:05 UTC

...despite the big signs saying "congestion use the hard shoulder", speed limits (not red-x) over the hard shoulder. And not all the trucks are from outside the UK.
I saw the classic last Friday, 60mph signs over all four lanes (including hard shoulder), two lorries pegged on their limiters at "their version" occupying lanes 2&3, BMWs crowding lane 4, and virtually nothing in lane 1, the lane I joined at J6 south - next vehicle ahead in lane 1 (former hard shoulder) was just vanishing out of sight on the bend, somewhat over half a mile ahead, and a faster (56mph limited?) truck making its feelings known to the lorry in lane 3....
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