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Message 1686363 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 19:50:52 UTC - in response to Message 1686318.  

Sadly if a car hits the under-run bars at just the right speed and angle it will get trapped - as this very fortunate driver demonstrated.

Okay, never thought about that. Does highlight a particular issue that many truckers experience - just what was the idiot doing that close?

Same thing every idiot does in a rear end collision.
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Message 1686382 - Posted: 31 May 2015, 21:31:40 UTC - in response to Message 1686363.  

Sadly if a car hits the under-run bars at just the right speed and angle it will get trapped - as this very fortunate driver demonstrated.

Okay, never thought about that. Does highlight a particular issue that many truckers experience - just what was the idiot doing that close?

Same thing every idiot does in a rear end collision.

Yep, 9/10 pick up a Darwin Award.
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Message 1688311 - Posted: 5 Jun 2015, 22:51:19 UTC

Amtrak train strikes truck in Wilmington; No injuries reported
WILMINGTON, Ill. — Emergency crews are on the scene in Wilmington, Illinois where an Amtrak train struck a semi-truck.

The train, which departed from San Antonio headed for Chicago, is at a standstill right now, the truck on its side.

An alderman in Wilmington tells WGN News that he does not believe there are any injuries. Amtrak confirms there are no serious injuries to passengers or crew members.

The train had 203 passengers on board. It has been evacuated.

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Message 1688750 - Posted: 7 Jun 2015, 0:20:41 UTC - in response to Message 1688311.  

TRUCK DRIVER ID'D, CITED IN WILMINGTON AMTRAK TRAIN COLLISION


WILMINGTON, Ill. (WLS) -- Wilmington Police have cited truck driver Keith Morris of Joliet, Ill., for disregarding a signal indicating the approach of a train, resulting in the collision that disrupted Amtrak service Friday.

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Message 1688787 - Posted: 7 Jun 2015, 2:11:13 UTC - in response to Message 1688311.  

Amtrak train strikes truck in Wilmington; No injuries reported
WILMINGTON, Ill. — Emergency crews are on the scene in Wilmington, Illinois where an Amtrak train struck a semi-truck.

The train, which departed from San Antonio headed for Chicago, is at a standstill right now, the truck on its side.

An alderman in Wilmington tells WGN News that he does not believe there are any injuries. Amtrak confirms there are no serious injuries to passengers or crew members.

The train had 203 passengers on board. It has been evacuated.

Now that it's clear there were no injuries, the whole internet is wailing over the contents of the truck: 70,000 lbs. of bacon.

(I hope Zappy was sitting down when he read that.)
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Message 1688931 - Posted: 7 Jun 2015, 14:53:36 UTC - in response to Message 1688787.  

Amtrak train strikes truck in Wilmington; No injuries reported
WILMINGTON, Ill. — Emergency crews are on the scene in Wilmington, Illinois where an Amtrak train struck a semi-truck.

The train, which departed from San Antonio headed for Chicago, is at a standstill right now, the truck on its side.

An alderman in Wilmington tells WGN News that he does not believe there are any injuries. Amtrak confirms there are no serious injuries to passengers or crew members.

The train had 203 passengers on board. It has been evacuated.

Now that it's clear there were no injuries, the whole internet is wailing over the contents of the truck: 70,000 lbs. of bacon.

(I hope Zappy was sitting down when he read that.)

Eh, that was only 35 tons of bacon, it's not like there isn't more out there, somewhere.
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Message 1689155 - Posted: 8 Jun 2015, 12:13:45 UTC - in response to Message 1688931.  

but but that is an awful lot of sarnies and hand me the brown sauce.
Amtrak train strikes truck in Wilmington; No injuries reported
WILMINGTON, Ill. — Emergency crews are on the scene in Wilmington, Illinois where an Amtrak train struck a semi-truck.

The train, which departed from San Antonio headed for Chicago, is at a standstill right now, the truck on its side.

An alderman in Wilmington tells WGN News that he does not believe there are any injuries. Amtrak confirms there are no serious injuries to passengers or crew members.

The train had 203 passengers on board. It has been evacuated.

Now that it's clear there were no injuries, the whole internet is wailing over the contents of the truck: 70,000 lbs. of bacon.

(I hope Zappy was sitting down when he read that.)

Eh, that was only 35 tons of bacon, it's not like there isn't more out there, somewhere.

Old enough to know better(but)still young enough not to care
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Message 1691303 - Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 19:06:37 UTC

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/general-news/20150610/southern-california-boy-8-hopped-one-freight-train-struck-and-killed-by-another/1
YUCCA, Ariz. — Arizona authorities say it may be months before a formal identification is made of a boy struck and killed by a train.

However, the Mohave County Sheriff’s Office says evidence indicates that the boy struck near the community of Yucca was 8-year-old Kaden Lanphear of Needles, California.

He had wandered away from his Southern California desert home Saturday and apparently climbed aboard a freight train and rode it more than 30 miles before getting off and being struck by another train.

The engineer saw the boy on the tracks but could not stop the train before hitting the boy.

The Sheriff’s Office said Tuesday the county Medical Examiner determined that the boy died of blunt force trauma but said formal identification could take months.

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Message 1693985 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 16:32:58 UTC - in response to Message 1627409.  

There of course is an HGV sat nav

Halfords HGV Sat Nav

Of course it also is about 3 times the price I just paid for my new Tom Tom.

Unless the company supplies it I suspect most HGV driver will use a standard one

Also if you are in an HGV and find you are travelling up a narrow country lane, then how do you turn around. You just have to keep going and hope it gets wider.

The driver in most cases has decided to ignore road signs saying things like narrow road, narrow bridges, some with weight limits, double bends, etc. etc.

Ah, the wonders of the modern age, what bliss

From many of these incidents on this thread all show one thing in common...

...failure to use an old technological standard...

...the Mk 1 Eyeball.
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Message 1694021 - Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 17:42:46 UTC

Caused by a disconnect between the aforementioned MkI eyeball, the brain and the motor centre of the brain induced by an over-reliance on other technologies...
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Message 1694130 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 0:31:11 UTC

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/africa/stowaway-who-clung-on-to-plane-as-it-flew-almost-13000-kilometres-from-south-africa-to-london-dies-31314239.html
A stowaway has plunged to his death from a plane and landed on a shop in a high street - while another is in hospital after surviving the fall.

The two men are believed to have clung on to a British Airways plane as it flew more than 8,000 miles (12,875KM) from Johannesburg in South Africa to Heathrow.

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Message 1694270 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 11:54:56 UTC - in response to Message 1694251.  

Caused by a disconnect between the aforementioned MkI eyeball, the brain and the motor centre of the brain induced by an over-reliance on other technologies...

And of course that most of the transgressors are Eastern Europeans that can't read or speak English and are sent simply with an out of date sat nav by unscrupulous firms to deliver in the UK. They should be turned back at the ports and not allowed in. And I will name names, the Dutch are the worst with their flower and plant deliveries to Garden centres.


Chris I think your 100% correct there , you know were I live close to Felixstowe port and it happens everyday on the A14 . Nothing can be done about it coz "it affects peoples human rights" think you can work out my feelings on the subject , they might be qualified to drive in their respective country's but that don't mean the same in a different country at all !!
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Message 1694295 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 13:33:34 UTC - in response to Message 1694270.  

I've covered quite a bit of England & Wales & to this day, still enjoy my work. However, the one road I hate is the A14. As for the Dutch, they're not that bad. The worst truck drivers at least on the A14 are the Polish & Portuguese.

The best failure of the Mk1 Eyeball I've seen was a 40 footer (Curtainsider) on the B1078 at Needham Market. Approximately 500 feet before the bridge is a clear sign stating "low bridge 2.5m (8'0").

Having a delivery to do in Lion Lane (straight across from bridge which was on the left) I as well as some other road users were stumped. I never did see the outcome of that "little" fracas as I drove round him, did delivery & returned the way I came - took some time though :-)
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Message 1694298 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 13:44:15 UTC - in response to Message 1694290.  
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Happened to us about 10 years ago. An artic lorry with foreign markings being driven badly scraped the whole side of our car. The driver got out and babbled and gesticulated in some foreign language, shrugged his shoulders and drove off. But not before I had noted the details written on the lorry. We called the police but they weren't interested as nobody was hurt.

Our insurance company looked into it and it turned out that the man was a contract driver to a Dutch haulage company that had a contract with a Dutch bulb and flower grower, who in turn had a contract with Sainsbury's Homebase. Nobody accepted responsibility and we think that the haulage company was based off shore owned by a holding company. We lost 2 years no claim bonus over that and Homebase didn't want to know.

Next time the foreign driver will be on the end of my fist in A&E and the lorry tyres will be let down. That will force the matter into court.

These international driving licenes are not worth the paper they are written on. At the moment we are knee deep in the UK with people from the Far East driving Mercs and BMW's around where they can hardly see over the dashboard, let alone drive them properly. They might just be able to avoid an ox cart in their own country, they shouldn't be allowed on the road here.

That and these foreign lorry drivers is nothing less than a public scandal. You want to drive in the UK then you pass a UK driving test first. End of story.

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Understand were you coming from Chris but 99% sure it'll be you that's up in front of the magistrate's court and if you go "not guilty" you get a free trip to Crown Court and neither of them places are nice . Its NOT worth the hassle even if your " in the right" . Police are next to useless really and aint their fault and a solicitor will cost lots of money . so its loose loose , Your basicly Fu#ked

I've covered quite a bit of England & Wales & to this day, still enjoy my work. However, the one road I hate is the A14. As for the Dutch, they're not that bad. The worst truck drivers at least on the A14 are the Polish & Portuguese. The best failure of the Mk1 Eyeball I've seen was a 40 footer (Curtainsider) on the B1078 at Needham Market. Approximately 500 feet before the bridge is a clear sign stating "low bridge 2.5m (8'0").



I used to ride a motor bike and know the bridge you mean in Needham mkt let alone its low there's a 90 degree turn right after the bridge and NO WAY will a HGV 1 make that and HGV 3 no chance in hell . That corners bad enough at 10mph on a motorbike and you cant go any faster than that there !!!
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Message 1694302 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 13:57:10 UTC - in response to Message 1694298.  

The problem is Europe not the UK. I personally know of 8 drivers here where they "bought" their license & to see them drive scares the crap out of me. It is not easy to gain a HGV license here & it is damned expensive.

An ordinary driving license will cost you £30 every ten years (now that the paper counterpart is no longer valid, watch that cost increase every few years).

HGV Costs

Photocard £30 (every 10 years)
Digital Tachograph Card £38 (every 10 years)
dCPC Card £350 (every 5 years)

Annual cost photocard £3
Annual cost HGV £76.80

All UK HGV drivers are now on a Government database all because of the dCPC so easily verifiable. Foreign drivers...
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Message 1694306 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 14:06:06 UTC - in response to Message 1694302.  

I 4t EVERY legal driver was on a database with the DVLA wombles , when I used to get stopped by the law they knew even b4 they had pulled me over I had my full bike licence had insurance and M.O.T my address and how many laws I had "fractured" in the past ;-) . The only thing I didn't carry was the paper counterpart
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Message 1694312 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 14:11:01 UTC - in response to Message 1694306.  

Sorry Mark, should have clarified better. HGV drivers are not only on the DVLA database but on the dCPC database as well. Also the digi tachos are more accurate than the old analogue ones :-(
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Message 1694323 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 14:29:50 UTC - in response to Message 1694312.  
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Sorry Mark, should have clarified better. HGV drivers are not only on the DVLA database but on the dCPC database as well. Also the digi tachos are more accurate than the old analogue ones :-(


No probs mate I only ever passed my motorbike test back when I was 17 (old part 1 and part 2 ) , never botherd with cars let along HGV's .
The tachos might be a lot more accurate but there's still ways to get around them im sure if you want to take the risk of getting caught ;-)
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Message 1694327 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 14:32:55 UTC - in response to Message 1694323.  

The tachos might be a lot more accurate but there's still ways to get around them im sure if you want to take the risk of getting caught ;-)

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Message 1694331 - Posted: 21 Jun 2015, 14:40:04 UTC

I was professionally taught how to drive by a driving school instructor, I passed the written DMV test(which is one of 3 written tests, you don't know which you'll get, they're just drawn at random) with a score of 99 out of 100, plus I passed My driving test, this was driving My Dad's big 1970-1972 Mercury Marquis Brougham Sedan in the narrow streets of San Pedro CA, all at age 19. I say 1970-1972, since they look alike and its been a long time since then, He liked this model best. Could I pass the HGV test? Probably, though Me traveling there is a bit unlikely to happen.

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