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Message 1658113 - Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 4:01:17 UTC - in response to Message 1657989.  

Ah yes. Paid by the mile as the crow files. Always pick the shortest route bridge heights be damned. Drive more hours than permitted. It gets you a bigger paycheck.

Oh as to height here in the US, the trailer isn't married to the tractor. The height needs to be on the trailer, not the tractor. Of course flat beds with external loads are another matter.

That and Bob tail trucks.
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Message 1658145 - Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 5:30:07 UTC

The best way to keep terrorists out of airplanes is to screen the passengers before allowing them on board. I have flown a few times with El Al and you get a first interview by a pretty girl. Then a second interview by another girl and may God help you if only a detail is different from the first interview. It takes about one hour, so you have to check in three hours before your departure time.
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Message 1658151 - Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 5:42:21 UTC - in response to Message 1658145.  

The best way to keep terrorists out of airplanes is to screen the passengers before allowing them on board. I have flown a few times with El Al and you get a first interview by a pretty girl. Then a second interview by another girl and may God help you if only a detail is different from the first interview. It takes about one hour, so you have to check in three hours before your departure time.
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And now members of flight crews can be a threat, all cause of that Germanwings crash, I read the autopilot was set to descend from 38,000 feet to 100 feet and the co-pilot locked Himself in the flight deck all by Himself, turns out the co-pilot was unfit to fly and was hiding the fact that He was sick.
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Message 1658167 - Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 6:23:56 UTC - in response to Message 1658113.  

Ah yes. Paid by the mile as the crow files. Always pick the shortest route bridge heights be damned. Drive more hours than permitted. It gets you a bigger paycheck.

Oh as to height here in the US, the trailer isn't married to the tractor. The height needs to be on the trailer, not the tractor. Of course flat beds with external loads are another matter.

That and Bob tail trucks.

I've seen extra-tall trainers marked with the trailer height on the rear doors - 110 Inches inside height. I used to know what the standard floor height was, I'd guess about 5 feet, so that puts the trailer roof at 14-4. But the few professional drivers I know do know how tall their rigs are, and which bridges to detour around......
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Message 1658173 - Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 7:02:04 UTC

As a answer to Chris I believe that a captain would choose to be shot rather than leaving a terrorist to enter the flight deck.I have a brother who is a sea captain and I know how they feel.Don't mention Schettino, he is an exception, not the rule.
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Message 1658416 - Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 21:26:58 UTC - in response to Message 1658167.  
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Ah yes. Paid by the mile as the crow files. Always pick the shortest route bridge heights be damned. Drive more hours than permitted. It gets you a bigger paycheck.

Oh as to height here in the US, the trailer isn't married to the tractor. The height needs to be on the trailer, not the tractor. Of course flat beds with external loads are another matter.

That and Bob tail trucks.

I've seen extra-tall trainers marked with the trailer height on the rear doors - 110 Inches inside height. I used to know what the standard floor height was, I'd guess about 5 feet, so that puts the trailer roof at 14-4. But the few professional drivers I know do know how tall their rigs are, and which bridges to detour around......

Those trailers are not taller than 13'6". 110" inside hight is gained by lowering the floor and running on low profile tires. Even the truck tractors are on low profile tires. I've seen 5th wheel heights as low as 30". Granted this was special order. The carrier had loads that cube out before grossing out.
If you want to run the lower 48 you're limited to 13'6", although some states do allow taller trucks.
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Message 1658475 - Posted: 28 Mar 2015, 23:25:33 UTC - in response to Message 1658416.  

Ah yes. Paid by the mile as the crow files. Always pick the shortest route bridge heights be damned. Drive more hours than permitted. It gets you a bigger paycheck.

Oh as to height here in the US, the trailer isn't married to the tractor. The height needs to be on the trailer, not the tractor. Of course flat beds with external loads are another matter.

That and Bob tail trucks.

I've seen extra-tall trainers marked with the trailer height on the rear doors - 110 Inches inside height. I used to know what the standard floor height was, I'd guess about 5 feet, so that puts the trailer roof at 14-4. But the few professional drivers I know do know how tall their rigs are, and which bridges to detour around......

Those trailers are not taller than 13'6". 110" inside hight is gained by lowering the floor and running on low profile tires. Even the truck tractors are on low profile tires. I've seen 5th wheel heights as low as 30". Granted this was special order. The carrier had loads that cube out before grossing out.
If you want to run the lower 48 you're limited to 13'6", although some states do allow taller trucks.

Thanks for the correction. Learn something every day.
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Message 1659783 - Posted: 31 Mar 2015, 12:18:40 UTC - in response to Message 1659775.  
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Would the trucking industry be interested or is it still cheaper by rail freight?

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You certainly won`t drive through russia with a truck.
We have a factory in russia its simply a pain in the a....


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Message 1659896 - Posted: 31 Mar 2015, 16:47:43 UTC - in response to Message 1659775.  

Would the trucking industry be interested or is it still cheaper by rail freight?

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When I read the headline, I thought of a book I read in the 1980's - "A Trans-Atlantic Tunnel, Hurrah!" by Harry Harrison. The Colonists LOST the revolution, and the USA is still a part of the British Empire. A direct descendant of George Washington is chief engineer of a company building a railroad tunnel from Britain to New York.

I'm not sure if a 55-mile-long tunnel under the Bering Strait would be feasible. Maybe an elevated causeway, like the road to Key West, Florida. Given the cold and the nasty weather up there, just about anything bridging the two countries would be an engineering challenge, to say the least...
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Message 1659962 - Posted: 31 Mar 2015, 22:09:17 UTC - in response to Message 1659896.  
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Would the trucking industry be interested or is it still cheaper by rail freight?

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When I read the headline, I thought of a book I read in the 1980's - "A Trans-Atlantic Tunnel, Hurrah!" by Harry Harrison. The Colonists LOST the revolution, and the USA is still a part of the British Empire. A direct descendant of George Washington is chief engineer of a company building a railroad tunnel from Britain to New York.

I'm not sure if a 55-mile-long tunnel under the Bering Strait would be feasible. Maybe an elevated causeway, like the road to Key West, Florida. Given the cold and the nasty weather up there, just about anything bridging the two countries would be an engineering challenge, to say the least...


Not in one long stretch, but to the Diomede islands, one Russian(Big Diomede) and one American(Little Diomede), with a connecting tunnel between them, this should be possible, since the distance from Siberia to Big Diomede island and the distance from Alaska to Little Diomede island isn't greater than the distance the Chunnel used in that set of 3 tunnels under the English Channel, and lastly Big and Little are close enough that the last tunnels wouldn't be very long and tunnels would be better than trying to cope with arctic weather on a roadway.
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Message 1660189 - Posted: 1 Apr 2015, 7:38:25 UTC - in response to Message 1659962.  

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When I read the headline, I thought of a book I read in the 1980's - "A Trans-Atlantic Tunnel, Hurrah!" by Harry Harrison. The Colonists LOST the revolution, and the USA is still a part of the British Empire. A direct descendant of George Washington is chief engineer of a company building a railroad tunnel from Britain to New York.

I'm not sure if a 55-mile-long tunnel under the Bering Strait would be feasible. Maybe an elevated causeway, like the road to Key West, Florida. Given the cold and the nasty weather up there, just about anything bridging the two countries would be an engineering challenge, to say the least...


Not in one long stretch, but to the Diomede islands, one Russian(Big Diomede) and one American(Little Diomede), with a connecting tunnel between them, this should be possible, since the distance from Siberia to Big Diomede island and the distance from Alaska to Little Diomede island isn't greater than the distance the Chunnel used in that set of 3 tunnels under the English Channel, and lastly Big and Little are close enough that the last tunnels wouldn't be very long and tunnels would be better than trying to cope with arctic weather on a roadway.

I dont think A bridge is viable. I was staitiond at Shemya AFB in the Aleutions. The North side of the Island was the Bering Sea, the other was the North Pacific.
During a williwaw which just means a storm in Aleut. The winds I expierenced got up to 130 MPH and stayed there for 2 days. You can just think how big the waves were.
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Message 1660363 - Posted: 1 Apr 2015, 17:02:32 UTC - in response to Message 1660189.  

Would the trucking industry be interested or is it still cheaper by rail freight?

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When I read the headline, I thought of a book I read in the 1980's - "A Trans-Atlantic Tunnel, Hurrah!" by Harry Harrison. The Colonists LOST the revolution, and the USA is still a part of the British Empire. A direct descendant of George Washington is chief engineer of a company building a railroad tunnel from Britain to New York.

I'm not sure if a 55-mile-long tunnel under the Bering Strait would be feasible. Maybe an elevated causeway, like the road to Key West, Florida. Given the cold and the nasty weather up there, just about anything bridging the two countries would be an engineering challenge, to say the least...

Not in one long stretch, but to the Diomede islands, one Russian(Big Diomede) and one American(Little Diomede), with a connecting tunnel between them, this should be possible, since the distance from Siberia to Big Diomede island and the distance from Alaska to Little Diomede island isn't greater than the distance the Chunnel used in that set of 3 tunnels under the English Channel, and lastly Big and Little are close enough that the last tunnels wouldn't be very long and tunnels would be better than trying to cope with arctic weather on a roadway.

I dont think A bridge is viable. I was staitiond at Shemya AFB in the Aleutions. The North side of the Island was the Bering Sea, the other was the North Pacific.
During a williwaw which just means a storm in Aleut. The winds I expierenced got up to 130 MPH and stayed there for 2 days. You can just think how big the waves were.

130 mph winds - that's what, an EF-5 hurricane/typhoon? Yeah, wouoldn't want to be caught on a bridge or causway in those winds.........
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Message 1660674 - Posted: 2 Apr 2015, 9:26:25 UTC

A terrible loss

Unfortunately, I see this every day - if not on the road, then by customers calling here with their whole family in the vehicle - Vehicles meant to carry 4/5 people actually carrying 7/8 & sometimes more - nothing can be said otherwise the "racist" card enters the picture.
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Message 1660678 - Posted: 2 Apr 2015, 9:39:12 UTC - in response to Message 1660674.  

Vehicles meant to carry 4/5 people actually carrying 7/8 & sometimes more


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Message 1660703 - Posted: 2 Apr 2015, 11:21:39 UTC

I find the last 2 posts puerile & insensitive. Should have known better, after all, this is the Net.
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Message 1660725 - Posted: 2 Apr 2015, 13:25:18 UTC - in response to Message 1660703.  

I find the last 2 posts puerile & insensitive. Should have known better, after all, this is the Net.

It was you who chose to link this crash report to a comment about over-occupancy - and exaggerated it, by suggesting 7/8 people was a level of occupancy that would cause you concern (according to the local newspaper, there were six people in the car, three of them children).

Instead, I would have thought that you would have been on firmer ground if you had linked it to the earlier discussion of speed limits on busy urban roads.
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Message 1660780 - Posted: 2 Apr 2015, 15:44:53 UTC - in response to Message 1660725.  
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It was you who chose to link this crash report to a comment about over-occupancy - and exaggerated it, by suggesting 7/8 people was a level of occupancy that would cause you concern

No exaggeration, actually seen 8 & more in a 5 seater vehicle.
As to why I made that comment...

WTH has a backpacking list got to do with the tragedy linked?
As to the 2nd post...
Bottom left of the first photo, much of what many Net posters are.
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Message 1660968 - Posted: 3 Apr 2015, 4:19:57 UTC - in response to Message 1660780.  


WTH has a backpacking list got to do with the tragedy linked?


I'm sorry. I posted that as a random picture of an overcrowded vehicle for some tongue in cheek humor.
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