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James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
Gary has the symptom, but the cause remains the pursuit of money, regardless of other results. It is easy to count money, and therefore easy to compare your financial results and efforts to others, so too many people focus on those numbers only. History will tell if we missed some other important results along the way. I agree. Its profit at all costs for the major shareholders. They cant seem to think that a sustainable profital company is good enough. They want more no matter that it might kill said company by sleazy acts. [/quote] Old James |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
Gary has the symptom, but the cause remains the pursuit of money, regardless of other results. It is easy to count money, and therefore easy to compare your financial results and efforts to others, so too many people focus on those numbers only. History will tell if we missed some other important results along the way. It is really a reflection of society, not per say a shareholder issue, society has a very short memory and very short time frames. Just look at a TV program and tell me what is the longest they go without a cut to something else? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
First, for those of you in Snowville, this is Southern California, November 15, Today! We get out the 1969CADY, convertible Carpool De Ville, and go for a swim on the freeway! Not sure how safe this ride is The Worlds Fastest Hot Tub No seat belts. Hot tub power in the trunk. Yes, it is a car and drives on the street! |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
The bean counter didn't make that decision, the CEO made that decision after he asked a bean counter how much to fix and how much will not fix cost and then asked a lawyer how much hot water not fix would make. Bean counters provide information on how many beans there are. Other jerks, fools and idiots make decisions based on them. That trial took place in the county my father was from. It was a BIG thing in the local news when we went for a visit at the time. A RESPONSIBLE bean counter has three interlinked roles. Firstly to accurately report the financial situation, secondly to propose various ways forward, thirdly to give considered advice on the best way. In the case of the Pinto tanks, they should have warned (and maybe did) that a decision to not fix might save money in the short term but would be seen as immoral, and might cost more in the long term. Then it was down to the CEO to make a decision and take the hit if it went wrong. Amtrak suffers from bean counteritis. They lose money on on-board food service. The costs are just too high, and certain Congresscritters constantly pound them for it, saying they should eliminate those losses by cutting the food service. The thing is, without it riders would pretty much disappear. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Uli Send message Joined: 6 Feb 00 Posts: 10923 Credit: 5,996,015 RAC: 1 |
Profit first, caring about others second, maybe a factor, why I am seriously thinking about leaving the longest job I ever had. Pluto will always be a planet to me. Seti Ambassador Not to late to order an Anni Shirt |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
It is the way of the world in the 21C Uli, I don't like it any more than you do, but in recessionary times, it is the way it is to survive. Psywall. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
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Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Definitely a Darwin Award... Stop & think! |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Amtrak suffers from bean counteritis. They lose money on on-board food service. The costs are just too high, and certain Congresscritters constantly pound them for it, saying they should eliminate those losses by cutting the food service. The thing is, without it riders would pretty much disappear. Amtrak runs its own food service, but has some of the dining car entrees prepared by local caterers and delivered to certain stations along the line. Yes, they charge astronomical prices. When I was on the train on Saturday, I paid $6.50 for a turkey sandwich, 3.25 for a small package of donut holes, and 2.25 for a bottle of water. The dining car steward announced the dinner selections and their prices. The steak was $24.something. The cheapest item was over $12. Sleeping car passengers get all meals in the diner for free. (I think the accounting is handled so it doesn't show up as a food service loss.) Business class passengers on corridor trains also get free food service, at their seat, again accounted to not be a food loss. When I took the train to New Orleans last winter, I used my Guest Rewards points to pay for my train fare, including the economy sleeper, and I got the free meals with it, so the whole trip cost me nothing. (That's why I pay for everything I buy with my Guest Rewards Master Card.) David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22160 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Food on trains - today I benefited from a ****up by the catering team. The train I was travelling on wasn't scheduled for at-seat (or any other) catering. A few minutes into the journey along trots the male trolley dolly. I asked was this a new service, or what? Red faced reply "I'm on the wrong train, but don't tell anyone". True enough, someone I know was on the train where the trolley should have been, and was ranting about the lack of it. (I think I'll keep it quiet from him about me having his Danish pastry...) Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
@Bernie - I also wonder about that comment, a bit uncharitable considering, but I have found this Witnesses at the scene described how the man was fatally injured as he leaned out to check the road. You've stated publicly that you would love to go out in an Eddie Stobbart truck. The only difference between theirs & mine is the lettering on the side. Some time previous to your comment, I made you an offer which you did not accept. Uncharitable? you know my history so your comment was uncharitable! Leaning out to check the road? Confirmation the Darwin Award was earned! |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22160 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
Definitely a Darwin Award... Having had a pedestrian run into the side of my Land Rover while stopped at a set of traffic lights I can quite see how a pedestrian could collide with a lorry. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Definitely a Darwin Award... But your vehicle was stopped. For serious head injuries as reported, the lorry must have been travelling at a fair speed. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I knew Goose Crackatoa would come in useful someday... Goose Crackatoa in action Now for some laughs... BBC Cyclist pulled for speeding |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22160 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
What was he hanging about for - when I were lad, going to a single sex school, and with a three mile journey to the single sex girls school we used to get "pulled" for speeding fairly regularly. The Police didn't like us overtaking cars in the 30 limit on push bikes Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19012 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
I knew Goose Crackatoa would come in useful someday... Isn't Hyde Park a Royal Park. If so there are no speed limits for Bicycles. The only speed limits for cycles in the UK are under local bye laws. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24876 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Now here's a good example of what not to do at a rail crossing. :-O http://www.news.com.au/world/truck-demolished-by-two-trains-travelling-in-opposite-directions-at-level-crossing/story-fndir2ev-1227133721063 Cheers. |
Jim Martin Send message Joined: 21 Jun 03 Posts: 2473 Credit: 646,848 RAC: 0 |
No working video, Wiggo. :o( |
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