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Message 1580289 - Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 23:43:07 UTC - in response to Message 1578897.  

New search for MH370 to focus on arc of seabed

Armed with new three-dimensional maps of the southern Indian Ocean floor, search vessels will focus on a 350-nautical-mile-long stretch of seabed for the Malaysia Airlines jet that vanished in March without a trace.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/09/29/malaysian-airlines-mh370-search/16451559/
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Message 1580428 - Posted: 1 Oct 2014, 11:06:10 UTC - in response to Message 1578887.  

make sure that nothing similar occurs again

But to do that, don't you think it would help to find out what happened?
Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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Message 1580430 - Posted: 1 Oct 2014, 11:51:09 UTC - in response to Message 1580428.  

make sure that nothing similar occurs again

But to do that, don't you think it would help to find out what happened?

Yes. The concerned families have to know what happened.
And we all need to know. Disappearing planes!

In May, members of the U.N.'s International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) governing council agreed on the need for global tracking. IATA was to put together tracking proposals that its members would implement voluntarily before ICAO set industry standards, which can take several years.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/mh370-mystery-task-force-delays-aircraft-tracking-plans-n215241
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Message 1580434 - Posted: 1 Oct 2014, 12:00:47 UTC - in response to Message 1580428.  

make sure that nothing similar occurs again

But to do that, don't you think it would help to find out what happened?

Quite true. However, there has to be a time limit imposed. Just look at the resources being used & the cost. In another week, it will be seven months since the airliner went down.

Is there anyone here who believes the passengers & crew are alive?
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Message 1580440 - Posted: 1 Oct 2014, 12:24:27 UTC - in response to Message 1580434.  

make sure that nothing similar occurs again

But to do that, don't you think it would help to find out what happened?

Quite true. However, there has to be a time limit imposed. Just look at the resources being used & the cost. In another week, it will be seven months since the airliner went down.
Is there anyone here who believes the passengers & crew are alive?

Yes They are dead. But why?
Costs? of course it will cost a LOT of Money.
Since there is no Global Tracking system it will take years to find anything.
Just look at the Air France crash some years ago in the Atlantic.
I took two years to find the tail fin.
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Message 1581392 - Posted: 3 Oct 2014, 6:19:09 UTC - in response to Message 1580689.  

MH370 could be found in a matter of days: Search fleet within reach of what could be the final resting place of missing flight

Vessels towing high-tech equipment are due to reach the search zone in the Indian Ocean on Sunday
The area, 1,500 kilometres off the Western Australian coast, is thought to be where Malaysian airlines flight MH370 crashed in March
GO Phoenix will run conduct operations for 12 days before returning to port for resupply
It will be joined by two other vessels in coming days
The search operation is a joint effort by Australia and Malaysia costing $57 million

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2777261/Search-fleet-just-days-away-final-resting-place-missing-flight-MH370.html
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Message 1583329 - Posted: 8 Oct 2014, 6:43:58 UTC - in response to Message 1581392.  

MH370 missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Families ask to be kept better informed about search

FAMILIES of those on board missing flight MH370 have issued a statement appealing to be kept better informed about the search and investigation.

Under the banner Voice 370, the families of the 239 people on board the Malaysia Airlines’ jet have expressed their “crushing anguish” at the situation.

“Seven months have elapsed since MH370 disappeared; yet we know little more than we did in those terrible days following the disappearance,” said a statement issued by the group.

“For the families, the nightmare continues.”

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/mh370-missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-families-ask-to-be-kept-better-informed-about-search/story-fnizu68q-1227082992264

Watched a special on CNN. I still can't grasp why no debris was ever found.

I hope for the families the plane will be found.
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Message 1585480 - Posted: 11 Oct 2014, 21:56:52 UTC
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Just watched a program on PBS NOVA about the search for MH370.

There was too much for me to report and I might get it wrong. I suggest that interested parties watch this program. A couple of interesting facts I remember, (1) access to the computers and electronics for the B777 is just outside the cockpit via a hatch in the floor. Malaysian Airlines didn't opt to buy their planes with that compartment lockable. A knowledgeable person in that compartment could shut down all communications, including transponders, In addition the oxygen supply for the flight deck is located in this compartment. There is a computer monitor and keyboard from which the plane can be flown but there is no camera view to see where the plane is going, ie. it would be tough to land. But they also mentioned that the electronic locking mechanism for the flight deck door is in this compartment and can be disabled. Boeing won't comment as there is an ongoing investigation under way.

There was also extensive discussion about how experts have deduced from the limited satellite information the probable track of the flight. Also the fact that there is no radar beyond 200 miles from land when flights are over water. The current system depends on reports from the flight crews to fix their position. A system has been developed and is being used by some countries for continuous tracking of commercial flights from takeoff to landing. There is also a push to make it impossible to turn off the transponders once a plane is in the air. Surprisingly the airline pilots associations are against such a change, claiming they need to have the power to turn off any and all electronic systems (stupid thinking in my opinion). Several years ago the French airliner that went down took two years to be found and it was transmitting data all the way to the water. They had it pinpointed to withing a 90 mile radius and it still took 2 years to find the wreckage. The search area for MH370 is a 900 mile radius and just an educated guess as to it's location. Hopefully this will be the Titanic of over water airline flight and new rules will be put in force so that no airliner will ever be out of communication again.[/url]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/space/missing-passenger-flights-since-1948/[url][/url]

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Message 1585572 - Posted: 12 Oct 2014, 1:19:38 UTC - in response to Message 1585480.  

Just watched a program on PBS NOVA about the search for MH370.

There was too much for me to report and I might get it wrong. I suggest that interested parties watch this program. A couple of interesting facts I remember, (1) access to the computers and electronics for the B777 is just outside the cockpit via a hatch in the floor. Malaysian Airlines didn't opt to buy their planes with that compartment lockable. A knowledgeable person in that compartment could shut down all communications, including transponders, In addition the oxygen supply for the flight deck is located in this compartment. There is a computer monitor and keyboard from which the plane can be flown but there is no camera view to see where the plane is going, ie. it would be tough to land. But they also mentioned that the electronic locking mechanism for the flight deck door is in this compartment and can be disabled. Boeing won't comment as there is an ongoing investigation under way.

There was also extensive discussion about how experts have deduced from the limited satellite information the probable track of the flight. Also the fact that there is no radar beyond 200 miles from land when flights are over water. The current system depends on reports from the flight crews to fix their position. A system has been developed and is being used by some countries for continuous tracking of commercial flights from takeoff to landing. There is also a push to make it impossible to turn off the transponders once a plane is in the air. Surprisingly the airline pilots associations are against such a change, claiming they need to have the power to turn off any and all electronic systems (stupid thinking in my opinion). Several years ago the French airliner that went down took two years to be found and it was transmitting data all the way to the water. They had it pinpointed to withing a 90 mile radius and it still took 2 years to find the wreckage. The search area for MH370 is a 900 mile radius and just an educated guess as to it's location. Hopefully this will be the Titanic of over water airline flight and new rules will be put in force so that no airliner will ever be out of communication again.http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/space/missing-passenger-flights-since-1948

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Message 1585656 - Posted: 12 Oct 2014, 6:36:50 UTC - in response to Message 1585572.  
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I also watched that special Bob.

The new search is now further south.

I like this article.

Airline Boss: MH370 May Not Be In Indian Ocean

Emirates Airlines boss Sir Tim Clark tells a German magazine that the failure to find any debris raises a "degree of suspicion".


There have been plenty of conspiracy theories about what happened to missing jet MH370 but now the respected head of one of the world's leading airlines says he believes the plane was not on autopilot at the end and may not even be in the Indian Ocean.

Emirates Airlines boss Sir Tim Clark made the controversial comments in an interview with German magazine Der Spiegel.

http://news.sky.com/story/1351298/airline-boss-mh370-may-not-be-in-indian-ocean

Sirius is good but would do this.

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Message 1588548 - Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 1:14:10 UTC - in response to Message 1585670.  

update.

Could this technology find missing Malaysian Flight MH370?

AN Australian scientist says it is possible to locate missing Malaysian Airlines flight MH370 by identifying cloud changes for evidence of vapour trails caused by burning fuel emissions from the aircraft.

Hydrometeorologist Aron Gingis, head of environmental consultancy firm Australian Management Consolidated, and a former Monash University academic, specialises in cloud microphysics.

Mr Gingis says he has used the technology to locate shipwrecks in the north Pacific Ocean by identifying “ship trails” and the changes in cloud microphysics caused by emissions of floating vessels using archival satellite data.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/could-this-technology-find-missing-malaysian-flight-mh370/story-fnizu68q-1227093827402
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Message 1588561 - Posted: 18 Oct 2014, 2:39:37 UTC

Maybe at the time of the disappearance such a method would have worked, but seven months later I am sure the atmosphere has mixed itself so much as to make exhaust particle detection impossible to track.
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Message 1591119 - Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 1:43:43 UTC

Latest reports today , Australian searchers are now asking the Indonesians to be on the look out for wreckage from the plane washing up on there coastline .

The report does not say why but it sounds like the currents may have washed it back up to Indonesia .

This makes me think they searched in the wrong area when the plane went down , as a poster has suggested with a map of the currents in that part of the world .

So much for the Australian Navy's knowledge of the oceans and expertise ...:((
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Message 1591134 - Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 2:10:53 UTC - in response to Message 1591119.  

Latest reports today , Australian searchers are now asking the Indonesians to be on the look out for wreckage from the plane washing up on there coastline .

The report does not say why but it sounds like the currents may have washed it back up to Indonesia .

This makes me think they searched in the wrong area when the plane went down , as a poster has suggested with a map of the currents in that part of the world .

So much for the Australian Navy's knowledge of the oceans and expertise ...:((

I think Australia have been doing a great job in this.
The search for MH370 is almost impossible.
Still they are looking for an answer.

Looking for some wreckage washed up on a beach...
Ridiculous. Maybe some debris could be found.
And where does the debris come from?

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Message 1591157 - Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 3:06:04 UTC - in response to Message 1591134.  

I think Australia have been doing a great job in this.
The search for MH370 is almost impossible.
Still they are looking for an answer.

Looking for some wreckage washed up on a beach...
Ridiculous. Maybe some debris could be found.
And where does the debris come from?


Who US Australia , we bury our waste ......At least i think we do :)

Mind yo we are going into Cyclone season so maybe that was us ....

ops sorry Indo :)
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Message 1591164 - Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 3:19:26 UTC

...but seven months later...


...archival satellite data.


Yo Bob, 'Archival Satellite Data. Yo.

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Message 1591622 - Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 23:23:44 UTC - in response to Message 1591164.  

MH370: No confirmation plane debris found in Indonesia, says Transport Ministry

PUTRAJAYA: Indonesia has not confirmed if they have found debris from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, said deputy Transport Ministry secretary-general Datuk Ruhaizah Mohamed Rashid.

"We have not received any information from there, and if there is, the Indonesian authorities will get in touch with the Malaysian authorities," she told reporters after attending a briefing for the media on the current status of the search for Flight MH370, here, Friday.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/10/24/MH370-no-confirm-debris-indonesia/

Plane will never be found!
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Message 1591639 - Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 23:45:30 UTC - in response to Message 1591622.  

MH370: No confirmation plane debris found in Indonesia, says Transport Ministry

PUTRAJAYA: Indonesia has not confirmed if they have found debris from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, said deputy Transport Ministry secretary-general Datuk Ruhaizah Mohamed Rashid.

"We have not received any information from there, and if there is, the Indonesian authorities will get in touch with the Malaysian authorities," she told reporters after attending a briefing for the media on the current status of the search for Flight MH370, here, Friday.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/10/24/MH370-no-confirm-debris-indonesia/

Plane will never be found!

No, it's sad.
But since the technology to track planes in real time already exists, why dont use it.
Most airline companies will not use it because of the cost!
What cost? Incendents like this cost more!
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Message 1591641 - Posted: 24 Oct 2014, 23:47:47 UTC - in response to Message 1591639.  

Incorrect, incidents like this only cost the taxpayer, not the airlines...

...mustn't interrupt the flow of profits!
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