MH370: Malaysian Transport Minister Says 58 ‘Hard Objects’ Found In Indian Ocean To Be Verified


The search team for the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 has found 58 “hard objects” in the Indian Ocean during the mapping of the seabed, Malaysia’s Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai said Sunday, according to reports. The hard objects, which are reportedly inconsistent with objects found on the seabed, are yet to be verified for links to the missing jetliner.

http://www.ibtimes.com/mh370-malaysian-transport-minister-says-58-hard-objects-found-indian-ocean-be-verified-1688458

Hard objects, what, made out of rock, metal, plastic, glass,.. They could've elaborated a bit... Thanx for the update Lynn:)

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Hard objects, what, made out of rock, metal, plastic, glass,.. They could've elaborated a bit... Thanx for the update Lynn:)

They probably don't know until they haul some up for a closer look.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Hard objects, what, made out of rock, metal, plastic, glass,.. They could've elaborated a bit... Thanx for the update Lynn:)

They probably don't know until they haul some up for a closer look.

How do they know the objects are 'hard' then?

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Same old stories, everyone knows something.

Flight MH370: Captain 'killed himself and his passengers by switching off plane's oxygen supply

Ewan Wilson is convinced that Zaharie Ahmad Shah locked his co-pilot out of the cockpit, de-pressurised the cabin and shut down all communication links before turning the plane around.

Mr Wilson, the head of Kiwi Airlines, says he has examined all other possibilities but cannot arrive at any other conclusion than that Shah, 53, was responsible for the deaths of the 227 passengers and 12 crew members on board the doomed Malaysian Airlines flight, which went missing on March 8.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh370-captain-killed-himself-4263403

Maybe Ewan Wilson is right.
Found this on cabin pressure in Wikipedia.

There's a misconception that oxygen is pumped into aircraft cabins because there isn't enough oxygen for us to breathe at high altitude. In reality, the same percentage of oxygen exists at high altitude as at sea level. But as altitude is increased, there is less pressure, which in effect leads to less oxygen available in a given breath.

Cabin pressurization therefore is used to create a safe and comfortable environment for aircraft passengers and crew flying at high altitude by pumping conditioned air into the cabin. This air is usually bled off from the engines at the compressor stage. The air is then cooled, humidified, mixed with recirculated air if necessary and distributed to the cabin by one or more environmental control systems. The cabin pressure is regulated by the outflow valve.

All exhaust air is dumped to atmosphere via an outflow valve, usually at the rear of the fuselage. This valve controls the cabin pressure and also acts as a safety relief valve, in addition to other safety relief valves. If the automatic pressure controllers fail, the pilot can manually control the cabin pressure valve, according to the backup emergency procedure checklist. The automatic controller normally maintains the proper cabin pressure altitude by constantly adjusting the outflow valve position so that the cabin altitude is as low as practical without exceeding the maximum pressure differential limit on the fuselage.

Especially that the pilot can manually control the cabin pressure valve. Perhaps even switch it off!

Hard objects, what, made out of rock, metal, plastic, glass,.. They could've elaborated a bit... Thanx for the update Lynn:)

They probably don't know until they haul some up for a closer look.

How do they know the objects are 'hard' then?

I expect hard objects probably reflect sound waves differently in a way the detector can identify.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Hard objects, what, made out of rock, metal, plastic, glass,.. They could've elaborated a bit... Thanx for the update Lynn:)

They probably don't know until they haul some up for a closer look.

How do they know the objects are 'hard' then?

I expect hard objects probably reflect sound waves differently in a way the detector can identify.

It's very deep where they are looking.
I'm surprised that they can find anything in such depth.

The deepest point in the area: 7,883 meters (about five miles) underneath the sea in the Wallaby-Zenith Fracture Zone. Undersea mountains and plateaus rise nearly 5,000 meters (about three miles) above the deep seafloor.

Hard objects, what, made out of rock, metal, plastic, glass,.. They could've elaborated a bit... Thanx for the update Lynn:)

They probably don't know until they haul some up for a closer look.

How do they know the objects are 'hard' then?

I expect hard objects probably reflect sound waves differently in a way the detector can identify.

Ok, thanx Simon, I sometimes forget technology...

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58 ‘Hard Objects’ Found

Not from MH370.

We know more about space, than our oceans.

MH370: Sonar Reveals Secrets Of Sea Floor
The hunt for missing Malaysian plane MH370 has revealed unsuspected secrets about the Indian Ocean, including underwater volcanoes and trenches dating back up to 100 million years.


The seabed formations revealed by the survey are thought to have formed when Australia and Antarctica separated around 100 million years ago. The two continents were among the last bits of Pangea to break apart.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrodgers/2014/09/14/mh370-sonar-reveals-secrets-of-sea-floor/

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Missing Flight MH370 search to resume

Six months after search and rescue teams converged on the southern Indian Ocean to look for the missing Malaysian jet, another mission to find the aircraft is about to start. But the latest international hunt for MH370 will get under way amid acrimony about the possible cause of the plane’s loss.

The Boeing 777, with 239 people on board, disappeared in March on a routine northbound flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. No wreckage has been found, but satellite communication with the jet indicates that the aircraft turned around and headed south, running out of fuel over the Indian Ocean.

http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/missing-flight-mh370-search-to-resume-9744519.html

Good Luck with the search.

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1000 possible flight paths
http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-had-1000-possible-flight-paths-20140908-10dqlz.html

From Gary's link:

Shanghai: Six months after the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 the man leading the operation to find it has admitted that there are 1000 possible flight paths it may have taken before crashing into the Indian Ocean.

Martin Dolan, the chief commissioner of the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, which is coordinating the search, said his team faced an "intimidating" and "unprecedented" challenge as it prepared to launch a one-year offshore search operation that could cost up to $51 million.

The only near certainty is that MH370 came down in a remote and inhospitable expanse of ocean that, at nearly 1.6 million square kilometres, is more than three times the size of Spain.

Asked if he could guarantee that the plane's wreckage would be found, Mr Dolan told The Daily Telegraph: "I'd like to be that confident, but this is unprecedented.

1000 possible flight paths. The plane will never be found.

That is what I figured within a week of the disappearance. If it crashed it most likely will never be found. If it didn't crash I shudder to think of the way it will reappear. But my money is on the crash scenario.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Swedish Television are right now showing a program about MH370.

What happened with MH-370? A whole world followed the search for flight MH-370, which took off from Kuala Lumpur with 239 people on board and was never seen again. The plane is believed to have flown seven hours after it disappeared out of sight of air traffic controllers. Now investigators examine what path it could have taken and states where it should have been knocked down. In autumn begins diving with underwater vehicles there.

My speculation is that the pilot got wacky and set the autopilot to south and turned off the air supply from the engines when they changed direction.
Then all passed out in perhaps a half hour.
The plane flew then by it self until the fuel ran out.
Has it happen before that air supply is malfunctioning?
Yes. Both in Greek and Jamaica within 2 decades.

Golfer Payne Stewart and some close friends died in a Learjet on a trip from Florida to Texas when the aircraft lost pressurization at 30,000 ft. The plane flew on it's original course to, I think, South Dakota where it ran out of fuel and subsequently crashed. Had the plane been flying over the ocean or even the Gulf of Mexico I doubt that it would have been found. When it was discovered that the learjet was off the planned route a fighter was sent to investigate and it's pilot reported that there was no activity in the cockpit. They tracked the stricken learjet until it ran out of fuel to be sure it wouldn't crash into a populated area. It wasn't said but I assume they would have shot it down had it been nearing a populated area.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Golfer Payne Stewart and some close friends died in a Learjet on a trip from Florida to Texas when the aircraft lost pressurization at 30,000 ft. The plane flew on it's original course to, I think, South Dakota where it ran out of fuel and subsequently crashed. Had the plane been flying over the ocean or even the Gulf of Mexico I doubt that it would have been found. When it was discovered that the learjet was off the planned route a fighter was sent to investigate and it's pilot reported that there was no activity in the cockpit. They tracked the stricken learjet until it ran out of fuel to be sure it wouldn't crash into a populated area. It wasn't said but I assume they would have shot it down had it been nearing a populated area.

Greek Airline crash: uncontrolled decompression doomed 'ghost plane' Helios Airways Flight 522
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPGkNDnBHA

New 3D images of the sea floor in the search area have been released.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/mh370-search-new-3d-images-released-of-search-area-for-missing-malaysia-airlines-plane/story-fnizu68q-1227071525048

An Australian Transport Safety Bureau bulletin said the three-dimensional models of the sea floor terrain had been developed from high resolution bathymetric data in the southern part of the Indian Ocean.

“The models show newly discovered sea floor features including remnant submarine volcanoes, ridges up to 300m high and depressions up to 1400m deep,” said the ATSB report.

“The identification of these features will assist in navigation during the underwater search phase.”

A defined arc in the southern Indian Ocean is considered the most likely area in which the aircraft ran out of fuel and ditched into the sea.

Cheers.

New 3D images of the sea floor in the search area have been released.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/mh370-search-new-3d-images-released-of-search-area-for-missing-malaysia-airlines-plane/story-fnizu68q-1227071525048

An Australian Transport Safety Bureau bulletin said the three-dimensional models of the sea floor terrain had been developed from high resolution bathymetric data in the southern part of the Indian Ocean.
“The models show newly discovered sea floor features including remnant submarine volcanoes, ridges up to 300m high and depressions up to 1400m deep,” said the ATSB report.
“The identification of these features will assist in navigation during the underwater search phase.”
A defined arc in the southern Indian Ocean is considered the most likely area in which the aircraft ran out of fuel and ditched into the sea.

Cheers.

The ocean floor is more unknown than the surface of Mars!

The new search area in the hunt for flight MH 370 located 1000 kilometers south west of the site where submersibles last searched in April, since it is now believed that the plane was traveling faster and ran out of fuel faster than previously assumed.

Last night I saw a documentary from Horizon BBC.

Horizon tells the inside story of the search for Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. With access to the key players on the frontline in the southern Indian Ocean and the British satellite engineers who tracked the plane's final hours, Horizon breaks open the biggest mystery in aviation history.

The film reveals how MH370 disappeared in a radar blind spot; what investigators believe happened to the aircraft in its last minutes; and how the area in which it could be found is still to be searched.

Plus Horizon examines the new technologies, like black box streaming and enhanced air traffic surveillance, that mean an airliner should never vanish without trace again

Canada has developed a new system AFIRS so you dont need to find the the black boxes.
The device reads and checks the flight recorder and if something unusally happens it sends data to ground control automatically and soon in real time the whole flight.
Consensus is however that if the transponder on the plane was working it would have been much easier to find the crash sight.
So, was the transponder malfunctioning or turned off in flight?

There are not many news of MH370 anymore.
There are only speculations about what happened.
But the families and friends will probably remember this for decades.

20 years ago, 989 people were fighting for their lives in the sinking Estonia. Today, the memories still remain with those who survived. Grief over the death, the joy of salvation and anger over the promises that were broken.
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5 Missing Flights That Eerily Echo MH370

Nearly seven months after its disappearance, officially, what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (MH370) remains almost as much of a mystery as in the wee hours of March 8th.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucedorminey/2014/09/27/5-missing-flights-that-eerily-echo-mh370/

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I hate to sound cruel, but I believe they're all dead. The money spent so far on the search could have been better used to provide a monument, compensate the families & those in charge make sure that nothing similar occurs again.

The countries in the area involved, get together & demand that all improve their radar coverage for starters.

5 Missing Flights That Eerily Echo MH370

Nearly seven months after its disappearance, officially, what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (MH370) remains almost as much of a mystery as in the wee hours of March 8th.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucedorminey/2014/09/27/5-missing-flights-that-eerily-echo-mh370/

I dont know Lynn. My first experience reading Forbes was about the so called referendum in Crimea. One 'journalist' had the real results from that.
It turned out to be a canard. Even Swedish press fell for it.
So choose wisely and read carefully Lynn:)

You will get better information from Australia and Malaysia news media about MH370. or BBC for that matter.

5 Missing Flights That Eerily Echo MH370

Nearly seven months after its disappearance, officially, what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (MH370) remains almost as much of a mystery as in the wee hours of March 8th.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brucedorminey/2014/09/27/5-missing-flights-that-eerily-echo-mh370/

I dont know Lynn. My first experience reading Forbes was about the so called referendum in Crimea. One 'journalist' had the real results from that.
It turned out to be a canard. Even Swedish press fell for it.
So choose wisely and read carefully Lynn:)

You will get better information from Australia and Malaysia news media about MH370. or BBC for that matter.

I did. 5 Missing Flights That Eerily Echo MH370

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