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Message 1485070 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 21:38:15 UTC

Hardly noticeable with you:) I fear to get under the 4000...
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Message 1485077 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 21:42:15 UTC

The RAC will drop a little more, no UL... Again!!!


Same here. Noticed that Marvin is now shown as running at 21:20:05 UTC. No AP splitting yet.
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Message 1485079 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 21:45:02 UTC - in response to Message 1485071.  

Yup, something must be terribly wrong with that UL server. It wasn't many days since it died the last time.

Check it out...marvin is back.
Maybe some APs? Maybe I can use my Mac again?
Maybe...
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Message 1485082 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 21:51:16 UTC - in response to Message 1485071.  

Yup, something must be terribly wrong with that UL server. It wasn't many days since it died the last time.

Good news is the download servers still seem to be alive for MB. At least can keep the machines busy ...
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Message 1485083 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 21:51:47 UTC - in response to Message 1484922.  

Only 7 APs left. This isn't looking good. AP life as I have known it, is about to end.

Hmm, alcohol, or food, what should I do?



Definitely go for the alcohol! Or not...


I think I'll start with tea and toasted bread with marmalade. After that....who knows :-)


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Message 1485085 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 21:52:05 UTC - in response to Message 1485080.  

Yup, something must be terribly wrong with that UL server. It wasn't many days since it died the last time.

Check it out...marvin is back.
Maybe some APs? Maybe I can use my Mac again?
Maybe...

Yeah, noticed that too. I'll go against my AP only principles for some time though, and start crunching MB only, even if AP comes back now. Just to see how low my RAC will drop from the level it is at now.

Tja, but server status page seems to be b0rked, it's over 30 minutes stale (as of a minute ago).
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Message 1485088 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 21:53:55 UTC - in response to Message 1485080.  

Yup, something must be terribly wrong with that UL server. It wasn't many days since it died the last time.

Check it out...marvin is back.
Maybe some APs? Maybe I can use my Mac again?
Maybe...


Yeah, noticed that too. I'll go against my AP only principles for some time though, and start crunching MB only, even if AP comes back now. Just to see how low my RAC will drop from the level it is at now.

Your ATI card will drop to 1/4 when running MBs verses APs. It's been known for a while. ATI cards score 4x higher running APs, it's the same with ALL my ATI cards...
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Message 1485093 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 22:07:11 UTC - in response to Message 1485082.  

Yup, something must be terribly wrong with that UL server. It wasn't many days since it died the last time.

Good news is the download servers still seem to be alive for MB. At least can keep the machines busy ...

NO when UL are down you will not receive any new WU.

05/03/2014 19:06:50 | SETI@home | Not requesting tasks: too many uploads in progress
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Message 1485098 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 22:18:10 UTC

I don't suppose there is anything in this but from my observations of upload outages, they are happening almost exactly every two days. Coincidence? Genuine symptom?

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Message 1485100 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 22:19:53 UTC - in response to Message 1485096.  

Yup, something must be terribly wrong with that UL server. It wasn't many days since it died the last time.

Good news is the download servers still seem to be alive for MB. At least can keep the machines busy ...

NO when UL are down you will not receive any new WU.

05/03/2014 19:06:50 | SETI@home | Not requesting tasks: too many uploads in progress


Not totally correct. I think the limit is 7 or 9 uploads in progress, or something like that. Up to the max number of uploads in progress, you can still get and download new tasks.


Yup. Caught it before too many ULs were hung, and was able to get 200+ DLs to refill the 2-day cache on all 3 machines.
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Message 1485102 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 22:24:40 UTC - in response to Message 1485096.  

Yup, something must be terribly wrong with that UL server. It wasn't many days since it died the last time.

Good news is the download servers still seem to be alive for MB. At least can keep the machines busy ...

NO when UL are down you will not receive any new WU.

05/03/2014 19:06:50 | SETI@home | Not requesting tasks: too many uploads in progress

Not totally correct. I think the limit is 7 or 9 uploads in progress, or something like that. Up to the max number of uploads in progress, you can still get and download new tasks.

The limit is 2x the number of CPUs (cores) in the machine - memory fails as to whether it's >= or simply > that number. Either way, a slow machine can carry on for hours without noticing any difference, but a machine like Juan's only has a few minutes grace.

The other wrinkle: until you report a task as completed, the server has no way of knowing that it isn't still 'in progress'. And you can't report the task until it's been uploaded. So, if you were at the quota limit when uploads stop, you stay that way for the duration.
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Message 1485104 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 22:33:20 UTC - in response to Message 1485098.  

I don't suppose there is anything in this but from my observations of upload outages, they are happening almost exactly every two days. Coincidence? Genuine symptom?

Can't be exactly every two days, can they? I remember at least a couple starting around midnight, Berkeley time: this one was more like lunchtime, ~13:30 local.

There was talk of replacing the AP science database server with a different machine: since this happened during working hours, my money is on something in the complex web of dependencies between the servers broke while they were switching the new server into place - either a configuration problem with the new OS, or somebody tripped over the proverbial cable while maneuvering the new hardware into place. In either case, it's a big enough glitch that somebody will notice before they lock up for the day. Won't they?
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Message 1485105 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 22:37:13 UTC - in response to Message 1485102.  
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The limit is 2x the number of CPUs (cores) in the machine - memory fails as to whether it's >= or simply > that number. Either way, a slow machine can carry on for hours without noticing any difference, but a machine like Juan's only has a few minutes grace.

Just curious. Do you know if GPUs count in that equation as well as cores/threads? From what I've seen, it seems they might.
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Message 1485106 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 22:37:29 UTC - in response to Message 1485102.  
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but a machine like Juan's only has a few minutes grace.

Very few minutes... I still hate the 100WU limit... At least my electric bill will be lower this month. :(

<edit> GPU´s don´t count in the equation.
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Message 1485110 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 22:59:54 UTC - in response to Message 1485106.  

<edit> GPU´s don´t count in the equation.


Something else going on, then, as I've observed that I can get DLs with more than 4 ULs queued per machine, as would be the case with my puny dual core machines. As was previoulsy noted, it seems to be in the range of 8-9 before it's an issue.
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Message 1485112 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 23:01:06 UTC - in response to Message 1485106.  

but a machine like Juan's only has a few minutes grace.

Very few minutes... I still hate the 100WU limit... At least my electric bill will be lower this month. :(

<edit> GPU´s don´t count in the equation.
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Message 1485114 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 23:01:52 UTC
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Uploads are starting again and the SSP has updated.

Cheers.
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Message 1485129 - Posted: 5 Mar 2014, 23:54:14 UTC - in response to Message 1485104.  

In either case, it's a big enough glitch that somebody will notice before they lock up for the day. Won't they?

Well, what did I say? An outage for beer cures most ills.
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Message 1485132 - Posted: 6 Mar 2014, 0:06:23 UTC

AP splitters have come online.
Hope the AP work starts again.
The feeding frenzy starts, I hope

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Message 1485155 - Posted: 6 Mar 2014, 1:50:32 UTC - in response to Message 1485132.  

Trickle of APs coming out..slowly but surely...lets see if it ramps up..
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