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Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Latest news here is of a partial withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine border. http://www.news.com.au/world/ukraine-back-from-the-brink-as-russian-troops-begin-withdrawal/story-fndir2ev-1226870469825 Cheers. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Latest news here is of a partial withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine border. Or just reposition them to better effect? Cheers. |
SciManStev Send message Joined: 20 Jun 99 Posts: 6652 Credit: 121,090,076 RAC: 0 |
This is just an opinion piece from CNN. I don't know if it is valid or not. http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/31/opinion/russia-euphoria-crimea/index.html?hpt=hp_t4 Steve Warning, addicted to SETI crunching! Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group. GPUUG Website |
Alex Stiletto Send message Joined: 13 Apr 09 Posts: 196 Credit: 127,314 RAC: 0 |
Dear CLYDE, Wiggo, SciManStev and et al.! I do not have much free time is still ... but I try to tell you this situation! «…relocated one battalion…» - it is a trifle! It's this a word game on the verge of cheating! This is a simple clever trick of Russians! As a result of the information posted by users in Russian social networks, we determined the maneuvering of heavy armored vehicles near the Ukrainian border. Sometimes, their interest and video recording of the movement of Russian troops, helps to identify one or another part of the military on the border with Ukraine. Do not even need of space satellites! They also are singing strange and aggressive songs with the words "Russian go ...", with title "The movement of Russian troops to the borders of Ukraine... " , see Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNwLIfGsRJM On the north-eastern boundaries of Ukraine, they have the about 70 thousand Russian soldiers, as well as approximately: armored vehicles (tanks and APCs) - 700 pcs.; attack helicopters and combat aircraft - 240 units; various caliber artillery systems - 150 units; multiple rocket launchers (MRL) - 100 units etc. More here http://inforesist.org/operaciya-omega-putin-pered-vtorym-pryzhkom/ - Russian tanks on the railway station Klimovo Bryansk region (border with Ukraine), see Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTbR_DLU7uc - Russian self-propelled artillery system MSTA-S is transported by rail in the direction of Ukraine (near the city of Bryansk, Russia), see Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q66-26WAdg - More than 25 attack helicopters identified on the outskirts of the city of Belgorod (in the direction of the border with Ukraine) http://osp-ua.info/lastnews/31675.html For example, a tactical group (reinforced battalion) of the 2nd Guards Taman Motorized Rifle Division (place of permanent deployment – in township Alabino Moscow region) is concentrated in settlements Kalynivka,Amon,Kursk region http://ipress.ua/news/do_ukrainskogo_kordonu_pidtyagnulas_elita_rosiyskyh_suhoputnyh_viysk__foto_video_56568.html 3rd Battalion 76 - th Pskov Airborne Assault Division and two battalions of the 106th Tula Airborne Division - deployed in settlements Belgorod,North,Builder,V.Lopan... see Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtmS0C5G9KM 12 Panzer Regiment 4th Guards Kantemirovsky Tank Division (place of permanent deployment Naro-Fominsk Moscow region) was seen in the southwest of the Bryansk region of Russia, at the Ukrainian border ... ,see Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pogrBymzqwU and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS3pPJIQ0AU They also opened a field hospitals, engineering military units,logistic support, communication,were seen sound stations for agitation and propaganda ЗС-82 (10 units) http://censor.net.ua/news/278274/na_granitsu_s_ukrainoyi_privezli_agitmashiny_istochnik_v_minoborony_rf Continuous movement of troops to the border in southern Russia http://glavcom.ua/news/195290.html Why all this? It's clear to any...Therefore, talk about the withdrawal of Russian troops too early! This was also confirmed leadership NATO today (in particular Anders Fogh Rasmussen,Secretary General of NATO): "KYIV, April 1 /Ukrinform/. The North Atlantic Alliance does not see positive results in the withdrawal of Russian troops from the Ukrainian border. NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said this before a meeting of the North Atlantic Council in a foreign ministers session in Brussels on Tuesday, a Ukrinform correspondent reported."Unfortunately, I cannot confirm that Russia is withdrawing its troops. This is not what we are seeing. This massive military build-up can in no way contribute to a de-escalation of the situation - a de-escalation that we all want to see. So I continue to urge Russia to pull back its troops, live up to its international obligations and engage in a constructive dialogue with Ukraine," Rasmussen said. He added that today NATO would discuss support for Ukraine in connection with Russia's unacceptable military aggression. Rasmussen said that the foreign ministers of NATO member states would also discuss the revision of the alliance's relations with Russia" Based on materials from http://www.ukrinform.ua/eng/news/nato_not_confirming_pullback_of_russian_troops_from_border_with_ukraine_319514 Alex P.S. Look at all ... is very informative and an actual material from open sources media! :) |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Alex, my best hopes and wishes are with you and your countrymen. This is just an opinion piece from CNN. I don't know if it is valid or not. That's actually a pretty fair assessment there Steve that only a hardline out of step Russian could disagree with. Cheers. |
Alex Stiletto Send message Joined: 13 Apr 09 Posts: 196 Credit: 127,314 RAC: 0 |
Thanks so much guys! NATO's supreme allied commander in Europe, U.S. Air Force General Philip Breedlove today said the same thing that I said for you yesterday... http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/02/us-ukraine-crisis-breedlove-idUSBREA310JS20140402 They will attack (my personal premonition)! :( Alex |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
Alex, my best hopes and wishes are with you and your countrymen. +1000 |
KWSN-GMC-Peeper of the Castle Anthrax Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 274 Credit: 6,936,182 RAC: 0 |
NATO couldn't do anything about if we wanted to. The Logistics are impossible. If you don't touch it, you can't break it. ; |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Real story? http://lenta.ru/news/2014/04/03/cubantwitter/ EDIT: looks so :) http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-secretly-built-cuban-twitter-but-why/ Documents show the U.S. government planned to build a subscriber base through "non-controversial content": news messages on soccer, music, and hurricane updates. Later when the network reached a critical mass of subscribers, perhaps hundreds of thousands, operators would introduce political content aimed at inspiring Cubans to organize "smart mobs" - mass gatherings called at a moment's notice that might trigger a Cuban Spring, or, as one USAID document put it, "renegotiate the balance of power between the state and society." Well, not CIA, just another USA department ;) Same methodology, yeah ? SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
KWSN-GMC-Peeper of the Castle Anthrax Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 274 Credit: 6,936,182 RAC: 0 |
Real story? The news has it that Cuba has finally turned the corner despite 50+ years of unending economic warfare waged against them. I wonder how the majority of the inhabitants feel about it now? Do they even WANT a 'spring'? If you don't touch it, you can't break it. ; |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
It looks to me like it all boils down to whether the Ukraine is an independent country or not. From Putin's point of view it is not while from everyone else's it is. I think Russia allowed the "Soviet Union" to break up in the hope that after a few years of independence the newly reformed countries would all come running back to mother russia. Now that they haven't done so Russia has decided to take by force what they have not been given. Will the rest of the world stand up to Russia and protect the Ukraine or will we bow to Russia's demands and allow Russia to gobble back up what they lost a couple of decades ago under a new name. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
KWSN-GMC-Peeper of the Castle Anthrax Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 274 Credit: 6,936,182 RAC: 0 |
It looks to me like it all boils down to whether the Ukraine is an independent country or not. From Putin's point of view it is not while from everyone else's it is. I think Russia allowed the "Soviet Union" to break up in the hope that after a few years of independence the newly reformed countries would all come running back to mother russia. Now that they haven't done so Russia has decided to take by force what they have not been given. We will allow it. The Chinese need a problem on their borders to keep them careful. Russia needs to beef up a little before they can be that. If you don't touch it, you can't break it. ; |
KWSN-GMC-Peeper of the Castle Anthrax Send message Joined: 28 May 99 Posts: 274 Credit: 6,936,182 RAC: 0 |
Real story? they're old. they won't be around much longer. If you don't touch it, you can't break it. ; |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Hehe, such "no matter - no excuses" can be double sided sword actually... All is matter. Just small example: Obama is just pathetic liar (look his statement regarding Kosovo) so no matter what Putin did, Obama has no excuses... In short - one bad never justifies another. SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I don't know if Vlad will be to worried about this, but..... Mighty Taco banned Vladimir Putin from all its stores. Cheers. |
anniet Send message Joined: 2 Feb 14 Posts: 7105 Credit: 1,577,368 RAC: 75 |
I don't know if Vlad will be to worried about this, but..... Well... if it comes down to trying to contain him, it's a start I suppose... |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
Just as nothing excuses USA's departments when they mess with foreign governments inner states. Looks like you missed the point again, that's 2-way statement. SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Raistmer Send message Joined: 16 Jun 01 Posts: 6325 Credit: 106,370,077 RAC: 121 |
I don't know if Vlad will be to worried about this, but..... LoL, clever advertisement trick. How else their name would appear even on this board? :DDD And most clever part that this advertisement cost nothing (in first approximate. In second they could lose some negligible fraction of their customers who disagree with their decision, but this part will be so small and number of those who heard (like me :) ) about that restaurant first time will be so big....) SETI apps news We're not gonna fight them. We're gonna transcend them. |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
It would probably be even less than than, given that most Americans don't even know who Putin is...but given that this is a New York based company, then they probably got an increase from former Eastern Europeans that seem to love living in New York. |
Batter Up Send message Joined: 5 May 99 Posts: 1946 Credit: 24,860,347 RAC: 0 |
If I wasn't American I would be concerned about what kind of deal these two made. One secret hand shake and it's like nothing ever happened. |
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