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Message 1473094 - Posted: 5 Feb 2014, 16:07:56 UTC

XP - The thorn in Microsoft's side?

"There is a clear business case for sticking with Windows XP, but organizations must be aware of the risks and challenges in doing so."

They certainly won't like reading that.

"In addition, other security vendors have pledged to continue to support Windows XP. After all, there's still a market there!"

Or that, especially as they only provide it until July 2015.
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Message 1473142 - Posted: 6 Feb 2014, 1:49:19 UTC - in response to Message 1473099.  

... maximise profits. But, if you piss your customers off too much, you will in time lose your market share. ...

Do I count as some of that 'market share'?...


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Message 1473194 - Posted: 6 Feb 2014, 6:59:17 UTC - in response to Message 1473094.  

XP - The thorn in Microsoft's side?

"There is a clear business case for sticking with Windows XP, but organizations must be aware of the risks and challenges in doing so."

They certainly won't like reading that.

"In addition, other security vendors have pledged to continue to support Windows XP. After all, there's still a market there!"

Or that, especially as they only provide it until July 2015.

The company I work for is running XP and Win 7. The IT guy I talked to said eventually all will be Win 7 for ease of training on one OS. Lets face there is a big jump from XP to Win 7.
At one time I had XP, Vista, and Win 7 going at once. I had a learning curve from XP to Vista. Not so much from Vista to Win 7.

I cant figure out why people hate Vista. I have been running it on my daily driver since since 2009 with out a hiccup at all.
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Message 1473222 - Posted: 6 Feb 2014, 9:22:16 UTC - in response to Message 1473142.  
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... maximise profits. But, if you piss your customers off too much, you will in time lose your market share. ...

Do I count as some of that 'market share'?...

Nope, still not yet.

Barely a zit in fact. ;-)

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Message 1473239 - Posted: 6 Feb 2014, 10:58:23 UTC - in response to Message 1473222.  
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... maximise profits. But, if you piss your customers off too much, you will in time lose your market share. ...

Do I count as some of that [lost] 'market share'?...

Nope, still not yet.

Barely a zit in fact. ;-)

In that case, there is a huge red-hot boil developing on some of the stats...

Wikipedia: Usage share of operating systems


There are some rather curious numbers looking across the tables... But that is better discussed in other threads :-P


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Message 1473262 - Posted: 6 Feb 2014, 12:57:09 UTC

Another interesting report.....

XP Death expected to resuscitate PC Industry
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Message 1473270 - Posted: 6 Feb 2014, 13:30:58 UTC - in response to Message 1473262.  

Another interesting report.....

XP Death expected to resuscitate PC Industry

That was similarly very heavily Marketed for the introduction of Microsoft Windows8...

The reality likely is that a proportion of users will look to using mobile devices instead. Or just leave WinXP to linger on yet longer.

With all this Cloudy business, we may well be moving to a slow drift away from "desktops" altogether to instead mingle in the clouds behind "thin clients".

Until...


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Message 1473361 - Posted: 6 Feb 2014, 17:15:32 UTC - in response to Message 1473099.  
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That was a good link. Microsoft need to understand that although they are the worlds monopoly supplier of desktop OS's, they are not lord god. Of course they should try to "nudge" people forward towards their preferred technology path, they have a fiduciary duty to their shareholders to maximise profits. But, if you piss your customers off too much, you will in time lose your market share.


I don't think nearly as many people are as pissed off as you imply. The move from Windows 98 over to XP suffered much the same type of comments. Everyone thought that Microsoft was going to be forced to extend Windows 98SE (it had done so once previously) because of it's marketshare at the time of Windows XP's release. Everyone complained about XP's look; about XP's RAM footprint and steep(er) CPU requirements (relative to Windows 98SE's).

But everyone eventually upgraded. And now no one wants to let go of it, just like before. I'm seeing a pattern here.

There is still a world recession on, neither businesses nor home users have the finance or resources, to upgrade every three years, with licence costs, training, new hardware, new drivers etc etc. Most people will stick with XP as long as it costs in for them. The day it doesn't, then they will change. As far as I'm concerned Microsoft has lost it's way and has just become a greedy bullyboy corporation.


I'm not understanding why everyone believes that the expectation is that you jump on the latest and greatest every time Microsoft releases something. Sure, Microsoft wants you to because more money for them, but they're not forcing you to upgrade. No one was forced to upgrade to Windows 95 when it came out, and many stayed on Windows 3.1 because, yet again, it had a smaller RAM and CPU requirement. No one was forced to upgrade to Windows 98 even though Windows 95 and 3.1x were still out there.

All that being said, Microsoft does have to cut it's ties eventually. Just because people don't want to upgrade, doesn't mean they should be forced to continue support out of sheer popularity. There's only so much money you can pour into supporting an old OS before it just isn't worth it any more. However, if people want to continue using it, they can do so, at their own risk. I see nothing wrong with that approach.

I would be delighted to see it taken out of private hands and "nationalised" by the UN, and operated for the benefit of the people not Microsoft.


You actually believe that a single OS is so important to the people, that if a company decides to drop support for it, that it should be taken over by a government entity just so people can keep holding onto it? Really? What kind of precedent does that set for other products deemed "popular" by the masses? Why would giving more control to a government entity be good for the people?
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Message 1473362 - Posted: 6 Feb 2014, 17:17:08 UTC - in response to Message 1473270.  

With all this Cloudy business, we may well be moving to a slow drift away from "desktops" altogether to instead mingle in the clouds behind "thin clients".


I tend to agree with Steve Wozniak when he says that the Cloud is a Bad Idea as far as personal ownership and private data is concerned. I will continue avoiding putting anything into the Cloud as much as I can.
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Message 1473589 - Posted: 7 Feb 2014, 4:20:03 UTC - in response to Message 1473362.  

I tend to agree with Steve Wozniak when he says that the Cloud is a Bad Idea as far as personal ownership and private data is concerned. I will continue avoiding putting anything into the Cloud as much as I can.

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I also know a few company IT managers who are less than fussed with the idea of their data floating around on a cloud "somewhere out there".

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Message 1473616 - Posted: 7 Feb 2014, 6:19:05 UTC - in response to Message 1473589.  
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I tend to agree with Steve Wozniak when he says that the Cloud is a Bad Idea as far as personal ownership and private data is concerned. I will continue avoiding putting anything into the Cloud as much as I can.

+1

I also know a few company IT managers who are less than fussed with the idea of their data floating around on a cloud "somewhere out there".

T.A.

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The cloud will eventually bite back at those who use it in more ways than they can imagine.

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Message 1473626 - Posted: 7 Feb 2014, 6:39:41 UTC - in response to Message 1473616.  

I tend to agree with Steve Wozniak when he says that the Cloud is a Bad Idea as far as personal ownership and private data is concerned. I will continue avoiding putting anything into the Cloud as much as I can.

+1

I also know a few company IT managers who are less than fussed with the idea of their data floating around on a cloud "somewhere out there".

T.A.

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The cloud will eventually bite back at those who use it in more ways than they can imagine.

Cheers.

Plus 3.
You think its easy to read folks E-mails and such now. Wait till the cloud is the sole repository for information.
I think its all a sinister plot by Apple. Why do they insist on not letting users add more memory to there handhelds? They are in cahoots with the NSA is why. Now I wrote that tongue in cheek. But I want my info in my hands, Not somewhere else either by cloud or an offsite backup. I dont trust a cloud to hold my banking info.
I can see the crying now when the day comes the cloud gets hacked.
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Message 1473653 - Posted: 7 Feb 2014, 8:42:52 UTC
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In the UK I think this may become the biggest threat to our privacy.

Police will have 'backdoor' access to health records despite opt-out, says MP
David Davis says police would be able to approach central NHS database without a warrant as critics warn of catastrophic breach of trust


In the case of the police, officers will be able to request all of the medical data held for specific suspects with their correct identities, regardless of whether they had opted out.

With a national database in place, the request only has to be considered by officials at the information centre, who will not know the patient personally.

Davis, who established the existence of these "backdoors" in a parliamentary question answered by health services minister Dan Poulter, said he had "no problems with the data being used for licensed medical research, but when we have police accessing from a database that people have opted out from, and companies being able to buy this data, I think we need to have a debate about whether my property, which are my patient records, can be sold and used".


BY companies, he means Insurance companies, if they get it what happens to your Insurance and pensions premiums?
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Message 1473786 - Posted: 7 Feb 2014, 17:53:59 UTC - in response to Message 1473589.  

I also know a few company IT managers who are less than fussed with the idea of their data floating around on a cloud "somewhere out there".


Fortunately for my company, we deal with literally millions of people's private data on a daily basis due to the nature of the services we provide. It is for this reason why have a very strict policy against putting anything into the cloud, and all cloud services are blocked by our hardware firewall.
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Message 1473789 - Posted: 7 Feb 2014, 18:07:10 UTC

Nice to see that Britain can still innovate. Just wonder if what Iceotope is doing will ever filter down to the desktop level.

Schneider backs British start-up

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Message 1480483 - Posted: 22 Feb 2014, 2:15:20 UTC

Does it really require a personal quest to undo needlessly throw-away design Marketing?


My quest to fix a broken iPad

Considering our reliance on smartphones and tablets, and their susceptibility to being cracked, it's surprising there hasn't been more of an outcry over why they are so difficult to fix. ...

... except one of my followers tweeted me a link to a screen replacement kit for £15 - much less than the £200 I was quoted at the Apple Store. I clicked, bought the replacement screen then realised I had committed to a mission to fix my own iPad. ...




Just wait until the battery dies and needs replacement!...

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Message 1480947 - Posted: 23 Feb 2014, 16:02:13 UTC

Home routers exposed

....and for some cold relief.......

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Message 1481885 - Posted: 26 Feb 2014, 12:43:59 UTC - in response to Message 1480947.  

Home routers exposed


On a related note: 'Contagious' wi-fi virus created by Liverpool researchers
Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.
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Message 1482286 - Posted: 27 Feb 2014, 13:45:04 UTC

They hit us year in, year out with increases, but now they're getting worried about their big fat bonuses.......

Energy firms refused insurance

"Unfortunately, said Ms Khudari, after such checks were carried out, the majority of applicants were turned away because their cyber-defences were lacking.

"We would not want insurance to be a substitute for security," she said.

What was not clear, she said, was why firms were suddenly seeking cover in large numbers."

Interesting point.
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Message 1491197 - Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 13:31:05 UTC

About time :-)

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Wonder how long it will take the NSA to disrupt?
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