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Message 1595322 - Posted: 1 Nov 2014, 1:11:37 UTC - in response to Message 1595314.  

No, as I've already got a "locked" device - an iPhone :-)

Ah, a Unix device.

iPhone is not an Unix device.
Apple's iOS did not have an official name until the release of the iPhone software development kit (iPhone SDK) on March 6, 2008. Before then, Apple marketing literature simply stated that their iPhone runs a version of "OS X", a reference to iOS' parent operating system

OS X is based upon the Mach kernel. Certain parts from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in NeXTSTEP, the core of Mac OS X. NeXTSTEP was the graphical, object-oriented, and UNIX-based operating system developed by Steve Jobs' company NeXT after he left Apple in 1985.


It most certainly is a Unix device.

That would be UNIX®
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Message 1595326 - Posted: 1 Nov 2014, 1:14:17 UTC - in response to Message 1595199.  
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Did you see the solution was to lock your device so you could only use manufacturer approved applications. Turn it in to a proprietary locked device!

Which is pretty much what Android has become.

Amazing, it is only when linux is made into a proprietary system that it can have traction. I just wonder is it because linux is so good or is it all about the marketing department?
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Message 1595338 - Posted: 1 Nov 2014, 1:46:11 UTC - in response to Message 1595314.  
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No, as I've already got a "locked" device - an iPhone :-)

Ah, a Unix device.

iPhone is not an Unix device.
Apple's iOS did not have an official name until the release of the iPhone software development kit (iPhone SDK) on March 6, 2008. Before then, Apple marketing literature simply stated that their iPhone runs a version of "OS X", a reference to iOS' parent operating system

OS X is based upon the Mach kernel. Certain parts from FreeBSD's and NetBSD's implementation of Unix were incorporated in NeXTSTEP, the core of Mac OS X. NeXTSTEP was the graphical, object-oriented, and UNIX-based operating system developed by Steve Jobs' company NeXT after he left Apple in 1985.


It most certainly is a Unix device.

No it's not.
During the late 1970s and early 1980s, the influence of Unix in academic circles led to large-scale adoption of Unix (BSD and System V) by commercial startups, some of the most notable of which are Sequent, HP-UX, Solaris, AIX, and Xenix. In the late 1980s, System V Release 4 (SVR4) was developed by AT&T Unix System Laboratories and Sun Microsystems. SVR4 was subsequently adopted by many commercial Unix vendors.
Other operating systems that emulate Unix to some extent are often called Unix-like, although the Open Group disapproves of this term.
The term Unix is also often used informally to denote any operating system that closely resembles the trademarked system. The most common version of Unix (bearing certification) is Apple's OS X, while Linux is the most popular non-certified workalike.
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Message 1595948 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 14:58:22 UTC - in response to Message 1595338.  
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It most certainly is a Unix device.

No it's not.
During the late 1970s and early 1980s, the influence of Unix in academic circles led to large-scale adoption of Unix (BSD and System V) by commercial startups, some of the most notable of which are Sequent, HP-UX, Solaris, AIX, and Xenix. In the late 1980s, System V Release 4 (SVR4) was developed by AT&T Unix System Laboratories and Sun Microsystems. SVR4 was subsequently adopted by many commercial Unix vendors.
Other operating systems that emulate Unix to some extent are often called Unix-like, although the Open Group disapproves of this term.
The term Unix is also often used informally to denote any operating system that closely resembles the trademarked system. The most common version of Unix (bearing certification) is Apple's OS X, while Linux is the most popular non-certified workalike.


I'm not sure where you're getting this stuff, but it doesn't seem like you are reading what you're copying and pasting.
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Message 1595958 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 15:33:18 UTC - in response to Message 1595948.  

It most certainly is a Unix device.

No it's not.
During the late 1970s and early 1980s, the influence of Unix in academic circles led to large-scale adoption of Unix (BSD and System V) by commercial startups, some of the most notable of which are Sequent, HP-UX, Solaris, AIX, and Xenix. In the late 1980s, System V Release 4 (SVR4) was developed by AT&T Unix System Laboratories and Sun Microsystems. SVR4 was subsequently adopted by many commercial Unix vendors.
Other operating systems that emulate Unix to some extent are often called Unix-like, although the Open Group disapproves of this term.
The term Unix is also often used informally to denote any operating system that closely resembles the trademarked system. The most common version of Unix (bearing certification) is Apple's OS X, while Linux is the most popular non-certified workalike.


I'm not sure where you're getting this stuff, but it doesn't seem like you are reading what you're copying and pasting.

Yes. I'm a bit confused myself:)
Anyway, OS X is partly UNIX and partly MACH.
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Message 1596027 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 18:48:47 UTC - in response to Message 1595958.  

It most certainly is a Unix device.

No it's not.
During the late 1970s and early 1980s, the influence of Unix in academic circles led to large-scale adoption of Unix (BSD and System V) by commercial startups, some of the most notable of which are Sequent, HP-UX, Solaris, AIX, and Xenix. In the late 1980s, System V Release 4 (SVR4) was developed by AT&T Unix System Laboratories and Sun Microsystems. SVR4 was subsequently adopted by many commercial Unix vendors.
Other operating systems that emulate Unix to some extent are often called Unix-like, although the Open Group disapproves of this term.
The term Unix is also often used informally to denote any operating system that closely resembles the trademarked system. The most common version of Unix (bearing certification) is Apple's OS X, while Linux is the most popular non-certified workalike.


I'm not sure where you're getting this stuff, but it doesn't seem like you are reading what you're copying and pasting.

Yes. I'm a bit confused myself:)
Anyway, OS X is partly UNIX and partly MACH.

Somewhat understandable. iOS isn't UNIX® because it doesn't include a shell. Mac OS X is UNIX® 100% through and through. What it is made from doesn't matter as long as it passes all requirements and does what it is supposed to.
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Message 1596045 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 19:30:54 UTC - in response to Message 1596027.  
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It most certainly is a Unix device.

No it's not.
During the late 1970s and early 1980s, the influence of Unix in academic circles led to large-scale adoption of Unix (BSD and System V) by commercial startups, some of the most notable of which are Sequent, HP-UX, Solaris, AIX, and Xenix. In the late 1980s, System V Release 4 (SVR4) was developed by AT&T Unix System Laboratories and Sun Microsystems. SVR4 was subsequently adopted by many commercial Unix vendors.
Other operating systems that emulate Unix to some extent are often called Unix-like, although the Open Group disapproves of this term.
The term Unix is also often used informally to denote any operating system that closely resembles the trademarked system. The most common version of Unix (bearing certification) is Apple's OS X, while Linux is the most popular non-certified workalike.


I'm not sure where you're getting this stuff, but it doesn't seem like you are reading what you're copying and pasting.

Yes. I'm a bit confused myself:)
Anyway, OS X is partly UNIX and partly MACH.

Somewhat understandable. iOS isn't UNIX® because it doesn't include a shell. Mac OS X is UNIX® 100% through and through. What it is made from doesn't matter as long as it passes all requirements and does what it is supposed to.

How to use the shell /bin/bash on your iPhone:)
http://www.securitytube.net/video/6622
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Message 1596127 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 22:05:58 UTC

you lot could avoid problems buy doing 1 of 2 things don't buy Apple hehehehe

Or just jail break the dam thing and you will be able to do what ever you wish with the fone
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Message 1596148 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 22:27:41 UTC - in response to Message 1596045.  

It most certainly is a Unix device.

No it's not.
During the late 1970s and early 1980s, the influence of Unix in academic circles led to large-scale adoption of Unix (BSD and System V) by commercial startups, some of the most notable of which are Sequent, HP-UX, Solaris, AIX, and Xenix. In the late 1980s, System V Release 4 (SVR4) was developed by AT&T Unix System Laboratories and Sun Microsystems. SVR4 was subsequently adopted by many commercial Unix vendors.
Other operating systems that emulate Unix to some extent are often called Unix-like, although the Open Group disapproves of this term.
The term Unix is also often used informally to denote any operating system that closely resembles the trademarked system. The most common version of Unix (bearing certification) is Apple's OS X, while Linux is the most popular non-certified workalike.


I'm not sure where you're getting this stuff, but it doesn't seem like you are reading what you're copying and pasting.

Yes. I'm a bit confused myself:)
Anyway, OS X is partly UNIX and partly MACH.

Somewhat understandable. iOS isn't UNIX® because it doesn't include a shell. Mac OS X is UNIX® 100% through and through. What it is made from doesn't matter as long as it passes all requirements and does what it is supposed to.

How to use the shell /bin/bash on your iPhone:)
http://www.securitytube.net/video/6622

Jailbroken it isn't iOS any more.
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Message 1596172 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 23:07:11 UTC - in response to Message 1596148.  

Jailbroken it isn't iOS any more.


you poor man . I guess you don't have any choice then seeing as you can't buy the Samsung Galaxy fone's over there ....so much for choice in the land of the free .
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Message 1596176 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 23:14:01 UTC

....so much for choice in the land of the free .


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Message 1596178 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 23:19:55 UTC - in response to Message 1596172.  

Jailbroken it isn't iOS any more.


you poor man . I guess you don't have any choice then seeing as you can't buy the Samsung Galaxy fone's over there ....so much for choice in the land of the free .

Say What?!

Get your facts straight before you post Glenn. ;-)

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Message 1596179 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 23:21:26 UTC - in response to Message 1596176.  

Gooba Gaba now now no need to name call i only stated the facts you can't buy it because Apple con'd your courts into banning it , !

Even thou the same court case has been thrown out in country's outside of America so you don't have a choice do you !
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Message 1596181 - Posted: 2 Nov 2014, 23:28:22 UTC

This thread is to debate the pro's & con's of technology, I'd like it to stay that way.

I feel that the last several posts have strayed far off that debate.
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Message 1596206 - Posted: 3 Nov 2014, 0:07:01 UTC - in response to Message 1596127.  

... Or just jail break the dam thing and you will be able to do what ever you wish with the fone

Can you do that in the USA without yourself being slammed into jail?

"DCMA" an' all those stripes... :-(


Really the land of 'freedom'?!

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Message 1596209 - Posted: 3 Nov 2014, 0:15:03 UTC - in response to Message 1596178.  

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Message 1596214 - Posted: 3 Nov 2014, 0:25:09 UTC - in response to Message 1596209.  

just for you Wiggo

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-25/apple-wins-us-court-case-against-samsung/4222348

Try to keep up Glenn, that as well as this was posted in thread 1...

Appeal Court overturns Apple decision
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Message 1596221 - Posted: 3 Nov 2014, 0:35:41 UTC

Yep, every ban that Apple has won has been over turned Glenn. ;-)

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Message 1596226 - Posted: 3 Nov 2014, 0:44:55 UTC - in response to Message 1596221.  

ok i couldn't find anything that was recent about it so i figured it must still be the same .

Good to see that not all the courts are on the payroll of Apple seeing as they can't talk stealing wi-fi and not paying Royalties to the ozzie inventors until they where taken to court .
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