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W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
These days with some delivery companies you can watch were the driver is going, with the online tracker. Last week, on the 13th, I was waiting for a parcel and three times the driver was within 100 yds of my front door and considering where the next deliveries were he must have passed by my house twice, (out in the countryside you can say that, there is only one road from A to B) before lunch, this I assume he had on a nearby industrial park before making my delivery at just after 13:30. |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
No, 25 years and a completely different company. edit] typo there that should read 35 years. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
I don't know the company that you do your driving for, but these days most drivers are given their route which is compiled by computer. Their lorry is also loaded in exactly the right order so that the first drop comes off first and the last drop last. Assuming that it isn't a curtain wall vehicle. You're talking through your butt, stay off the wiki. As for 1st & Last, correct. The problem is that with all the software out there, none take into account the actual locality of postcodes. In fact, myself and several other drivers were invited into a meeting at the last company I worked for. They wanted to know how to cut down on the time & costs of the runs. I was taken off my Oxfordshire regular runs and given London. Why? That run had 35 drops a day and were compiled via computer. The drivers were going back on themselves several times - what a cock up. Within 60 minutes run organised and to date, it is still being delivered that way. They no longer use the computer to compile the runs but an experienced driver. A computer will put PE12 in between PE1 & 2. As for the Supermarkets, that is mainly 44 ton work and easily sorted as it is either a curtainsider or refrigerated trailer. Edit:- I see Harveys have been having problems, I wonder why? Several weeks ago I had a weeks work for them. After the first day, told them to get stuffed. Delivered to Shotley, back to Woodbridge then out to Shotley Gate and with them you MUST deliver in the order they are printed and must use sat-nav. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
You're talking through your butt, stay off the wiki. Ah, so you have knowledge of the transport industry, Teaching profession, engineering profession and we must accept that fact while you rubbish those with knowledge and experience in their field? I was replying to the inference that I am a liar and a useless driver. With over 30 years in the transport industry, you know better than me? I bow to one so endowed with such a wealth of experience! |
James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54 |
And even today some "apprenticeships" last longer than that. To do my job you need at least fifteen years "in industry", plus another ten before that "post qualification" just to get through the first door. Then there is another three to five years of mentoring before it is considered you can do the job "fairly well" and work unsupervised most of the time, apart from the annual CPD interview, the annual assessment, the bi-annual written which just keep rolling on and on.... What the hell? Your talking 30 years just to be mostly unsupervised? I think thats called indentured servitude. Just what was your line of work? [/quote] Old James |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Oh dear, is this the rod that shafts Nickerless Clegg? "The people who want to return to the old system are saying we should write off 100% of the money and hand over grants to universities in the old way."So he knows the correct answer, but is doing something else, and people ask why i don't like politics. Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
If the only reason we are educating people is so they can make better workers then you have a point. If we are educating people so we can all have a better society then it doesn't matter. Of course if we burden them with debt then it does matter. The only thing that should bar someone from higher education is whether they are capable of doing or not. The better people are educated the better it is for everyone. Reality Internet Personality |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Nobody "likes" politics but it is a necessary part of daily life, countries don't run themselves.. But I do wish they'd just fund education properly and leave it to the teachers to get on with it. *Ahem* I like politics. I don't like most politicians, but I like politics. It is interesting. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
That's a bit like saying you like getting drunk, but don't like alcohol! I do not dislike politicians on principle. I just think the current ones are not doing a good job. So it would be more like that I like getting drunk, just not by consuming copious amounts of Karlsberg. I prefer my Belgian beers :D |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Nobody "likes" politics but it is a necessary part of daily life, countries don't run themselves.. But I do wish they'd just fund education properly and leave it to the teachers to get on with it. From the above it seems you subscribe to a rather narrow definition of politics. I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Intelligence and motivation play a part as well. You can try educating people who just don't want to be educated due to childhood problems or social influences which results in psychological problems or just because of a low IQ in general. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Makes one wonder.... Nice headline "The other children who are native English speakers have not got a formal enough level of English that will get them that A-star grade in history or that A-grade in science." Whose fault is that? |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Makes one wonder.... Not theirs nor the ones that educate them... rOZZ Music Pictures |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Of course this does not help..... "The union said the strike action was covered by two ballots held in May 2011 and June 2012." Err, this is March 2014, a new ballot should have been taken. Strike shuts schools |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
I've not come across anything that so much sums up what I think society's role in education is. This is what I strive for in my classroom. Not league tables, not grades, or producing good consumers. To me this is the primary purpose of education. Kurt Vonnegut got it very right. Kurt Vonnegut's inspirational 'make your soul grow' letter performed by students Reality Internet Personality |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
I've not come across anything that so much sums up what I think society's role in education is. This is what I strive for in my classroom. Not league tables, not grades, or producing good consumers. I dont know if Kurt Vonnegut was right but I do think people who educate our kids play a very important role! As a parent too it's your primary 'role' to teach your kids the 'right ways'. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24877 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
Something like this would really throw modern kids a curve... :-) What's lurking inside BoE's vaults? Hint for Pounds(£) Shillings[s) & Pence[d), there were 240 pennies to the pound, 12 pennies to the shilling and 20 shillings to the pound for those curious enough to attempt the math. |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Something like this would really throw modern kids a curve... :-) Well unit conversion is still on the curriculum between Imperial and SI, as some backward countries still insist on using Imperial. Reality Internet Personality |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Something like this would really throw modern kids a curve... :-) Because countries use Imperial measurements does not mean they are backward. I've been using metric since 1961, long before most of the UK, and I still prefer Imperial measurements for a lot of things. And in a lot of cases, especially in the building industry, the use of metric measurements just confuses the issue. Doors are still multiples of 3 inches, timber is still 2 by 4 etc, and sheets of ply and drywall are 8 ft * 4 ft, no matter what they are advertised as in metric, even on the continent. |
The Simonator Send message Joined: 18 Nov 04 Posts: 5700 Credit: 3,855,702 RAC: 50 |
Something like this would really throw modern kids a curve... :-) One of those questions was "Trace the course of the following rivers, Loire, Mississippi, Rhine, Seine and Vistula." Now i'm a great believer in knowledge for its own sake, but what use is the above to a bank teller? Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge. |
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