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Message 1463280 - Posted: 11 Jan 2014, 22:15:19 UTC

Bureaucratic B/S

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A view from a teacher that I agree with: -

"A licence to teach is unnecessary because teachers already have that licence. We have Qualified Teacher Status and to introduce further layers of bureaucracy, further accountability to our profession, which is already heavily held to account... is in my view completely unnecessary.

It's a huge disappointment to hear the Labour Party continue to peddle what I consider to be a myth about teachers which is that teachers are "underperforming". "
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Message 1463598 - Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 16:31:55 UTC

One problem with the licensing proposal......

....Just who is going to do the assessments?

Another business head complaining about schools

Should he be blaming schools or the political correctness bullshyte that permeates the country?
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Message 1463611 - Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 16:56:14 UTC

Politicians get re-educated at school......

...note the school though.....

....Royal Academy of Dramatic Art.

Acting classes? They don't need any lessons - they're the biggest actors on the world stage!

Acting lessons

elocution lessons in reverse........

......"The Mail on Sunday revealed in 2008 that Mr Osborne had received help from leading speech therapist Valerie Savage to make him sound less ‘posh’."
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Message 1463636 - Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 18:07:09 UTC - in response to Message 1463611.
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elocution lessons in reverse........

......"The Mail on Sunday revealed in 2008 that Mr Osborne had received help from leading speech therapist Valerie Savage to make him sound less ‘posh’."

His real name is Gideon Oliver Osborne, heir to the Osbourne baronetcy, i wish they'd be more honest and just admit to being posh.

I had elocution lessons when i was younger to overcome both a soft r and a lisp (i must have sounded comical), it more or less put paid to my Lancashire accent too, though going to university was the final nail in that coffin.
If i were running for parliament (don't worry, i have no intentions to), would i sound more credible before (with thtwange impediment) or after (clipped)?
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Message 1464504 - Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 6:06:37 UTC

Confusion on school starting age. A subject close to my heart as I was born late in August and have first hand experience.

'Confusion' over summer-born school starting age

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Message 1464622 - Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 15:53:25 UTC

Catch-22 for teachers?

The final statement in that report says a lot. What chance teachers have against that?

"Sir Michael was also asked how universities could improve the quality of teacher training when there was such uncertainty about the future of teacher training in higher educationwhen the government has been shifting the emphasis towards more schools-based training. "
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Message 1464707 - Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 18:44:01 UTC

Couldn't we just name the thread 'Society's Role in Education'? Just a thought
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Message 1464741 - Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 19:59:42 UTC - in response to Message 1464707.

Good suggestion Julie, how does one change it?
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Message 1464744 - Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 20:05:04 UTC
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You're the OP. You could change it by editing the first post, don't know quite well how it works myself either... You could also just ask a moderator.

[edit]BTW come to think of it, it's like you wouldn't know that?
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Message 1464752 - Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 20:26:18 UTC - in response to Message 1464744.

Sorry Julie I didn't. Still don't know as you only have an hour to edit after posting.
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Message 1464760 - Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 20:45:55 UTC

That's what I don"t understand either but Victor was able to do it IIRC
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Message 1464776 - Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 21:20:34 UTC
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If you're the thread's author all you have to do is make another post using the "post to thread" button (not the "reply" or "quote" buttons) and then you'll be able to go back and edit the title. But seeing as the title has been changed now either you have worked it out or you had a mod do it.

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Message 1464781 - Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 21:35:37 UTC

Sirius used the "Hand of Mod" approach, which works quite well if you are polite or lucky (I guess he may have been both...)
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Message 1464794 - Posted: 15 Jan 2014, 21:59:51 UTC - in response to Message 1464781.

Thanks & agree the title is much more appropriate.
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Message 1465962 - Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 22:06:22 UTC

One fine example of what youth can achieve......

16 year old breaks record

Well done lad, a much better example than any Z-list wannabe celebrity can provide.
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Message 1466319 - Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 18:14:14 UTC

A very interesting report.....

Should high earners receive free state school education - or should they pay?
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Message 1466515 - Posted: 20 Jan 2014, 4:03:36 UTC

I dont what the UK expects kids to do after High school. But here in the states every kid is expected to graduate and then go to college. Id like to know where the idiot politician and or stupid educator got that idea from.
Some kids wont get out of high school. And the kids who do most wont have the grades or the financial means to go to college.

To me it makes more sense to make sure kids get a sound education in high scool and then let the kids and or parents if they want to go on to college.
And lets stop the BS that every kid can go on to a higher education. It has never worked that way.
And from what I read in my local paper some of those kids need to be in reform school and or jail.
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Message 1466653 - Posted: 20 Jan 2014, 14:57:59 UTC - in response to Message 1466319.
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Should high earners receive free state school education?

Yes. On the basis that everyone should. Rich or poor. Anything else is unfair, and there are already enough unfairities without adding any more.
High-earners already pay more tax, and tax funds the education system, so in a sense they've already paid more for their child's education anyway.
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Message 1466660 - Posted: 20 Jan 2014, 15:30:54 UTC

Also on the basis that the state should not discriminate. Making people pay because they are rich while people who don't pay because they are poor is discrimination based on income.

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Message 1466677 - Posted: 20 Jan 2014, 16:57:45 UTC - in response to Message 1466660.

Also on the basis that the state should not discriminate. Making people pay because they are rich while people who don't pay because they are poor is discrimination based on income.

Also on the basis that in some high earning families the person with the money could use that as leverage against dependents and deny them access to education.

Education for all benefits all.
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