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Message 1457214 - Posted: 24 Dec 2013, 21:40:17 UTC

Well, for christmas I pulled the trigger and got a new video card :) Im going from an 8600 GT w/512 megs of ram to a EVGA GeForce GTX 660 SUPERCLOCKED 2048MB Card.

Im just wondering if I need to reinstall Boinc and optimized apps or can I just plug and play ( with updated drivers)and go from there?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Message 1457216 - Posted: 24 Dec 2013, 21:46:36 UTC - in response to Message 1457214.  

Well, for christmas I pulled the trigger and got a new video card :) Im going from an 8600 GT w/512 megs of ram to a EVGA GeForce GTX 660 SUPERCLOCKED 2048MB Card.

Im just wondering if I need to reinstall Boinc and optimized apps or can I just plug and play ( with updated drivers)and go from there?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

1) Make sure power supply can handle gtx660.
2) Your boinc is 6.10. I would upgrade to boinc 7.x.
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Message 1457225 - Posted: 24 Dec 2013, 22:39:25 UTC

Do the BOINC upgrade before you install that gpu. I would suspend all processing on the activity menu before I shut down for the gpu install. That will give you a chance to install the drivers, etc. before BOINC decides the gpu is not usable. You will want to rerun the Lunatics installer and select the cuda 50 application versus the cuda 32 you are running.
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Message 1457523 - Posted: 26 Dec 2013, 0:49:59 UTC

So just to make sure Ive got the order right

1: No new tasks ( so I can finish out my cache)
2: Upgrade to Boinc 7.xx
3: Install Video Card/Drivers
4: Run Optimized App Install
5: Pray?
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Message 1457528 - Posted: 26 Dec 2013, 1:38:34 UTC

#3... be sure to use: clean instalation.
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Message 1457529 - Posted: 26 Dec 2013, 1:41:48 UTC - in response to Message 1457523.  

So just to make sure Ive got the order right

1: No new tasks ( so I can finish out my cache)
2: Upgrade to Boinc 7.xx
3: Install Video Card/Drivers
4: Run Optimized App Install
5: Pray?

Pretty much. Like you I play it safe.
1. Set to not receive new work.
2. Finish all work that is already on the computer.
3. Uninstall old Boinc. Delete Boinc folders.
(might be unnecessary, but like I said, I am playing it safe)
4. Install video card and drivers.
5. Install latest or close to latest version of Boinc.
This is important for several reasons. I do it because later versions
have better gpu support.
6. Add SETI project.
7. Exit Boinc Manager.
8. Install Lunatics optimized application. It is not as important as it used to be.
9. Start Boinc and happy crunching.

No prayer required.
I would have still be running Boinc 6.10 to this day, but I decided that I actually want Boinc to recognize by GTX 460 video card.
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Message 1460473 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 7:15:11 UTC

Well, I installed it. Looks like this now.

7.2.33 AuthenticAMD
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ [Family 15 Model 75 Stepping 2]
(2 processors) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (2047MB) driver: 305.27

1/3/2014 11:06:12 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 660 (driver version 305.27, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 3.0, 2048MB, 2003MB available, 2132 GFLOPS peak)
1/3/2014 11:06:12 PM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform


I am curious about this though
1/3/2014 11:06:12 PM | | App version needs OpenCL but GPU doesn't support it
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Message 1460479 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 7:53:00 UTC - in response to Message 1460473.  
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I am curious about this though
1/3/2014 11:06:12 PM | | App version needs OpenCL but GPU doesn't support it

I'm pretty sure you need a later video driver version for OpenCL support.
My GTX 560Ti supports OpenCL, but I'm running the 320.18 driver.

EDIT- looks like 331.82 is the current WHQL release.
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Message 1460482 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 8:04:26 UTC

Yea. Im running 3.05, so off to update the video card driver
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Message 1460486 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 8:18:42 UTC

It seems that winXP is the major culprit for this problem.

Upgrading the OS to Win7 has fixed that for all that I know of.

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Message 1460597 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 17:25:04 UTC - in response to Message 1460546.  
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Strange how XP works fine for All those other people here http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php. That's just here, imagine all those other people out there you don't see complaining about XP not working with OpenCL with nVidia.
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Message 1460599 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 17:39:58 UTC - in response to Message 1460597.  
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My limited information says that G80 based (compute capability 1.0) GPUs are currently supported for both CUDA and OpenCL, in the toolkit and in the drivers. There have been indications that these old GPUs may one day be deprecated for Cuda and OpenCL, but they aren't yet. XP in both 32 and 64 bit forms is supposedly still supported.

If the driver was installed from nVidia's site (as opposed to MS windows update cutdown ones by accident) I would first suggest to attempt a clean reinstall of the nVidia driver, then if still no-go, make a driver bug report to nVidia providing careful details.
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Message 1460602 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 17:43:39 UTC

No opencl problems here with a 670 and XP 32 bit & various drivers. I will go to WIN 7 OR 8 "soon", but for other reasons.
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Message 1460608 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 18:01:56 UTC - in response to Message 1460599.  
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My limited information says that G80 based (compute capability 1.0) GPUs are currently supported for both CUDA and OpenCL, in the toolkit and in the drivers. There have been indications that these old GPUs may one day be deprecated for Cuda and OpenCL, but they aren't yet. XP in both 32 and 64 bit forms is supposedly still supported.

If the driver was installed from nVidia's site (as opposed to MS windows update cutdown ones by accident) I would first suggest to attempt a clean reinstall of the nVidia driver, then if still no-go, make a driver bug report to nVidia providing careful details.

If you look through the Top host list, you will see a number of XP and Other Hosts missing the OpenCL label while others have it. There is something going on. I suggested contacting nVidia about it. Since My Hosts don't have that problem, there's not much I can do about it.
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Message 1460611 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 18:10:10 UTC - in response to Message 1460608.  
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My limited information says that G80 based (compute capability 1.0) GPUs are currently supported for both CUDA and OpenCL, in the toolkit and in the drivers. There have been indications that these old GPUs may one day be deprecated for Cuda and OpenCL, but they aren't yet. XP in both 32 and 64 bit forms is supposedly still supported.

If the driver was installed from nVidia's site (as opposed to MS windows update cutdown ones by accident) I would first suggest to attempt a clean reinstall of the nVidia driver, then if still no-go, make a driver bug report to nVidia providing careful details.

If you look through the Top host list, you will see a number of XP Hosts missing the OpenCL label while others have it. There is something going on. I suggested contacting nVidia about it. Since My XP host doesn't have that problem, there's not much I can do about it.


Yeah I agree, something going on. Those affected will need to either troubleshoot/report the issues, or otherwise indicate where they read OpenCL as being unsupported on XP. That's because they'll probably need detailed information, and so far I've managed to find only information that indicates the contrary position that all Cuda enabled GPUs support OpenCL under XP.

I have the niggling suspicion Windows Update could be involved though...

[Edit:] (at least) Some of those can be Linux hosts for which the Boinc client doesn't report driver versions at all, and in a couple of cases are running eiother 6.10.58/60 or my old modified 6.10.58 which may not report OpenCL at all in the Boinc identifier, despite operating with OpenCL apps just fine under anonymous platform.
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Message 1460627 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 19:29:30 UTC - in response to Message 1460611.  
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After looking at the Top Hosts again, I noticed that just about all the Hosts missing the OpenCL label are running the older versions of BOINC that don't detect OpenCL. I only found a couple with the newer BOINC missing the Label, so, it doesn't appear to be as large a problem as first thought...

Now I see your edit...
Oh well.
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Message 1460633 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 19:51:07 UTC - in response to Message 1460627.  

Now I see your edit...
Oh well.


Lol, well It took me a while to register my own machines display no OpenCL either (except for the Linux one with newer client), despite working with it for a long time.
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Message 1460778 - Posted: 5 Jan 2014, 6:01:37 UTC
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Driver update to 331 seems to have fixed the opencl issue

1/4/2014 9:34:34 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 660 (driver version 331.82, CUDA version 6.0, compute capability 3.0, 2048MB, 2004MB available, 2132 GFLOPS peak)
1/4/2014 9:34:34 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 660 (driver version 331.82, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 2048MB, 2004MB available, 2132 GFLOPS peak)

Not sure if it really works cause It hasnt tried dling any astropulse to the card yet.
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Message 1463875 - Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 9:28:56 UTC

Update :)

With the driver upgrade to 331.82 it has and will run AP on the GTX 660 :D
Its nice with this card upgrade. Went from a rac of 780 to 3500 or so and thats with running 1 wu at a time on it:D
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