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daysteppr Send message Joined: 22 Mar 05 Posts: 80 Credit: 19,575,419 RAC: 53 |
Well, for christmas I pulled the trigger and got a new video card :) Im going from an 8600 GT w/512 megs of ram to a EVGA GeForce GTX 660 SUPERCLOCKED 2048MB Card. Im just wondering if I need to reinstall Boinc and optimized apps or can I just plug and play ( with updated drivers)and go from there? Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
spitfire_mk_2 Send message Joined: 14 Apr 00 Posts: 563 Credit: 27,306,885 RAC: 0 |
Well, for christmas I pulled the trigger and got a new video card :) Im going from an 8600 GT w/512 megs of ram to a EVGA GeForce GTX 660 SUPERCLOCKED 2048MB Card. 1) Make sure power supply can handle gtx660. 2) Your boinc is 6.10. I would upgrade to boinc 7.x. |
Fred E. Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 768 Credit: 24,140,697 RAC: 0 |
Do the BOINC upgrade before you install that gpu. I would suspend all processing on the activity menu before I shut down for the gpu install. That will give you a chance to install the drivers, etc. before BOINC decides the gpu is not usable. You will want to rerun the Lunatics installer and select the cuda 50 application versus the cuda 32 you are running. Another Fred Support SETI@home when you search the Web with GoodSearch or shop online with GoodShop. |
daysteppr Send message Joined: 22 Mar 05 Posts: 80 Credit: 19,575,419 RAC: 53 |
So just to make sure Ive got the order right 1: No new tasks ( so I can finish out my cache) 2: Upgrade to Boinc 7.xx 3: Install Video Card/Drivers 4: Run Optimized App Install 5: Pray? |
juan BFP Send message Joined: 16 Mar 07 Posts: 9786 Credit: 572,710,851 RAC: 3,799 |
#3... be sure to use: clean instalation. |
spitfire_mk_2 Send message Joined: 14 Apr 00 Posts: 563 Credit: 27,306,885 RAC: 0 |
So just to make sure Ive got the order right Pretty much. Like you I play it safe. 1. Set to not receive new work. 2. Finish all work that is already on the computer. 3. Uninstall old Boinc. Delete Boinc folders. (might be unnecessary, but like I said, I am playing it safe) 4. Install video card and drivers. 5. Install latest or close to latest version of Boinc. This is important for several reasons. I do it because later versions have better gpu support. 6. Add SETI project. 7. Exit Boinc Manager. 8. Install Lunatics optimized application. It is not as important as it used to be. 9. Start Boinc and happy crunching. No prayer required. I would have still be running Boinc 6.10 to this day, but I decided that I actually want Boinc to recognize by GTX 460 video card. |
daysteppr Send message Joined: 22 Mar 05 Posts: 80 Credit: 19,575,419 RAC: 53 |
Well, I installed it. Looks like this now. 7.2.33 AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ [Family 15 Model 75 Stepping 2] (2 processors) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 (2047MB) driver: 305.27 1/3/2014 11:06:12 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 660 (driver version 305.27, CUDA version 5.0, compute capability 3.0, 2048MB, 2003MB available, 2132 GFLOPS peak) 1/3/2014 11:06:12 PM | SETI@home | Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform I am curious about this though 1/3/2014 11:06:12 PM | | App version needs OpenCL but GPU doesn't support it |
Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 19 Aug 99 Posts: 13736 Credit: 208,696,464 RAC: 304 |
I am curious about this though I'm pretty sure you need a later video driver version for OpenCL support. My GTX 560Ti supports OpenCL, but I'm running the 320.18 driver. EDIT- looks like 331.82 is the current WHQL release. Grant Darwin NT |
daysteppr Send message Joined: 22 Mar 05 Posts: 80 Credit: 19,575,419 RAC: 53 |
Yea. Im running 3.05, so off to update the video card driver |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
It seems that winXP is the major culprit for this problem. Upgrading the OS to Win7 has fixed that for all that I know of. Cheers. |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
Strange how XP works fine for All those other people here http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/top_hosts.php. That's just here, imagine all those other people out there you don't see complaining about XP not working with OpenCL with nVidia. |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
My limited information says that G80 based (compute capability 1.0) GPUs are currently supported for both CUDA and OpenCL, in the toolkit and in the drivers. There have been indications that these old GPUs may one day be deprecated for Cuda and OpenCL, but they aren't yet. XP in both 32 and 64 bit forms is supposedly still supported. If the driver was installed from nVidia's site (as opposed to MS windows update cutdown ones by accident) I would first suggest to attempt a clean reinstall of the nVidia driver, then if still no-go, make a driver bug report to nVidia providing careful details. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Fred E. Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 768 Credit: 24,140,697 RAC: 0 |
No opencl problems here with a 670 and XP 32 bit & various drivers. I will go to WIN 7 OR 8 "soon", but for other reasons. Another Fred Support SETI@home when you search the Web with GoodSearch or shop online with GoodShop. |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
My limited information says that G80 based (compute capability 1.0) GPUs are currently supported for both CUDA and OpenCL, in the toolkit and in the drivers. There have been indications that these old GPUs may one day be deprecated for Cuda and OpenCL, but they aren't yet. XP in both 32 and 64 bit forms is supposedly still supported. If you look through the Top host list, you will see a number of XP and Other Hosts missing the OpenCL label while others have it. There is something going on. I suggested contacting nVidia about it. Since My Hosts don't have that problem, there's not much I can do about it. |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
My limited information says that G80 based (compute capability 1.0) GPUs are currently supported for both CUDA and OpenCL, in the toolkit and in the drivers. There have been indications that these old GPUs may one day be deprecated for Cuda and OpenCL, but they aren't yet. XP in both 32 and 64 bit forms is supposedly still supported. Yeah I agree, something going on. Those affected will need to either troubleshoot/report the issues, or otherwise indicate where they read OpenCL as being unsupported on XP. That's because they'll probably need detailed information, and so far I've managed to find only information that indicates the contrary position that all Cuda enabled GPUs support OpenCL under XP. I have the niggling suspicion Windows Update could be involved though... [Edit:] (at least) Some of those can be Linux hosts for which the Boinc client doesn't report driver versions at all, and in a couple of cases are running eiother 6.10.58/60 or my old modified 6.10.58 which may not report OpenCL at all in the Boinc identifier, despite operating with OpenCL apps just fine under anonymous platform. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
TBar Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768 |
After looking at the Top Hosts again, I noticed that just about all the Hosts missing the OpenCL label are running the older versions of BOINC that don't detect OpenCL. I only found a couple with the newer BOINC missing the Label, so, it doesn't appear to be as large a problem as first thought... Now I see your edit... Oh well. |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Now I see your edit... Lol, well It took me a while to register my own machines display no OpenCL either (except for the Linux one with newer client), despite working with it for a long time. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
daysteppr Send message Joined: 22 Mar 05 Posts: 80 Credit: 19,575,419 RAC: 53 |
Driver update to 331 seems to have fixed the opencl issue 1/4/2014 9:34:34 PM | | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 660 (driver version 331.82, CUDA version 6.0, compute capability 3.0, 2048MB, 2004MB available, 2132 GFLOPS peak) 1/4/2014 9:34:34 PM | | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 660 (driver version 331.82, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 2048MB, 2004MB available, 2132 GFLOPS peak) Not sure if it really works cause It hasnt tried dling any astropulse to the card yet. |
daysteppr Send message Joined: 22 Mar 05 Posts: 80 Credit: 19,575,419 RAC: 53 |
Update :) With the driver upgrade to 331.82 it has and will run AP on the GTX 660 :D Its nice with this card upgrade. Went from a rac of 780 to 3500 or so and thats with running 1 wu at a time on it:D |
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