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Message 1453919 - Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 15:39:46 UTC - in response to Message 1453914.  

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That is of course just one guys opinion, but he did put From Russia with Love 2nd :-)


Pff, anyone who ranks Diamonds Are Forever higher than GoldenEye has no taste. Hell, anyone who ranks Skyfall and Die Another Day higher than GoldenEye has no taste.
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Message 1453925 - Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 16:20:33 UTC
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I have not kept a diary of my drinking habits.
One might say I have oo7d it a bit.


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Message 1453942 - Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 17:39:45 UTC
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Read all the Fleming books before I ever saw the movies. Read some of the Gardner books and some of the movie novelizations. For me, Fleming and Connery are it, but I've enjoyed most of the others. Haven't seen any movie in theatre in over 10 years, but will watch them on TV when they air at a decent hour.
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Message 1453978 - Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 20:20:34 UTC

A bit of a contrary opine but I liked Casino Royale (Craig.) Of all the actors who played the part of Bond, I thought he closest represented what Fleming had in mind for Bond. A more or less civilized thug who happened to work for the good guys.

Connery was good in the early movies but by the time he got to Octopussy I felt he was just phoning the performance in.

Kind of ambivalent about Brosnan and I really didn't care for Moore. Played it too much for laughs, IMHO.

I do agree with the quote on Dalton not knowing what to do with the roll. Haven't seen the Lazenby flick so I'll have to check it out sometime.
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Message 1453981 - Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 20:32:26 UTC - in response to Message 1453978.  

A bit of a contrary opine but I liked Casino Royale (Craig.) Of all the actors who played the part of Bond, I thought he closest represented what Fleming had in mind for Bond. A more or less civilized thug who happened to work for the good guys.

Connery was good in the early movies but by the time he got to Octopussy I felt he was just phoning the performance in.

Kind of ambivalent about Brosnan and I really didn't care for Moore. Played it too much for laughs, IMHO.

I do agree with the quote on Dalton not knowing what to do with the roll. Haven't seen the Lazenby flick so I'll have to check it out sometime.

Connery was the exquisite Bond.
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Message 1453997 - Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 21:48:09 UTC

I thought Sean Connery was excellent as bond. I also liked Roger Moore but he did camp the series up a notch or two. I never saw a Dalton bond movie so I cant comment. I thought Bronson was a good bond also, So when they decide to change the actor again I thought jeez, Arent they ever satisfied. However I watched Daniel Craig in the last two movies and I really like is take on the Bond character. I feel like the above poster that he is the Bond most like Ian Flemming created. A tough thugish man who does what it takes to win.

And I did like skyfall.
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Message 1454166 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 13:00:43 UTC - in response to Message 1454146.  

Moonraker was universally criticised as the worst Bond ever, with Jaws and Dolly on a disintegrating space station apparently surviving somehow. And also the worst innuendo ever.

Minister of Defence - My God, what is Bond doing?
Q - "I think he's attempting re-entry, sir!"


The plot was a little silly, but that space battle was pretty cool.

But those old Bond movies always leave me wondering where the villain gets his army of henchmen, and why he dresses them often in brightly colored clothing.
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Message 1454167 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 13:04:52 UTC

I grew up with Moore as my first Bond... Then was introduced to the older movies by Connery. I like both Connery and Moore; didn't like Lazenby or Dalton. Brosnan was AWESOME!!! But, I agree with the the others that Craig is what Ian Flemming had in mind for the Bond character.


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Message 1454326 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 0:51:21 UTC

Moore was my first Bond too, which somehow led to Connery annoying me when I started seeing his flicks. Diamonds was absolutely his worst. Never say never again wasn't too bad, for a remake of an earlier one. Octopussy was Moore, not Connery.

As I've gotten older, I agree that Moore was a bit too campy.

I think Dalton's first one was one of the best ever. Didn't think so much of his others.

I'd say the one with Sean Bean was my least favorite Brosnan, but they were all fairly good. The writers and producers started putting some thought into them for his last couple. The one with Halle Berry was one of the best ever too.

Of course, the Spy who loved me had absolutely nothing in common with the book. I think that book could be adapted to make the main character be the girl who became Jinx; then they could make another to fill in her back story.

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Message 1454330 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 1:04:14 UTC

As a very young man I liked the Bond
movies but I won't stay up to watch
one now. (Daniel Craig once after I
Saw the Cowboys and Aliens movie.)

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Message 1454340 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 1:18:38 UTC

I think I've only seen the first 2 Craigs.

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Message 1454351 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 1:44:02 UTC - in response to Message 1454330.  

As a very young man I liked the Bond
movies but I won't stay up to watch
one now. (Daniel Craig once after I
Saw the Cowboys and Aliens movie.)

It was after I watched Cowboys and Aleins that I decided that I would give him a chance in the Bond movies. I like him a lot as Bond.
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Message 1454430 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 10:46:23 UTC
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My favorite Bond actors were Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan.
Daniel Craig is not bad but he can hardly smile.
I loved him in the Girl with the Dragon tattoo and Cowboys and Aliens.


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Message 1454445 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 11:53:55 UTC - in response to Message 1454428.  

But those old Bond movies always leave me wondering where the villain gets his army of henchmen, and why he dresses them often in brightly colored clothing.

They watched too many episodes of Batman!


Hahaha yeah, that sounds logical :P


Oh to be clear, I dislike the Craig Bond movies, but not because of Craig. I think he is a good actor and I think he plays a very good Bond. The issues I have with those Bond movies are more script related.
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Message 1454485 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 14:19:55 UTC - in response to Message 1454430.  

My favorite Bond actors were Roger Moore and Pierce Brosnan.
Daniel Craig is not bad but he can hardly smile.
I loved him in the Girl with the Dragon tattoo and Cowboys and Aliens.



My favorite is Connery, without doubt.
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Message 1454560 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 18:22:10 UTC - in response to Message 1454445.  

Oh to be clear, I dislike the Craig Bond movies, but not because of Craig. I think he is a good actor and I think he plays a very good Bond. The issues I have with those Bond movies are more script related.

I think I'd agree with that. He'd probably do pretty well if the producers would go back to the way they were thinking with the Brosnan flicks.

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Message 1454726 - Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 6:02:27 UTC - in response to Message 1454560.  

Oh to be clear, I dislike the Craig Bond movies, but not because of Craig. I think he is a good actor and I think he plays a very good Bond. The issues I have with those Bond movies are more script related.

I think I'd agree with that. He'd probably do pretty well if the producers would go back to the way they were thinking with the Brosnan flicks.

Which leads to the question, When it is time to let the franchise die? Are they catering to us old timers who remeber the fist Bond flicks? Or due they continue to grab a large share of new watchers?
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Message 1454803 - Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 12:52:18 UTC
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Message 1454834 - Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 15:17:25 UTC - in response to Message 1454726.  
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Oh to be clear, I dislike the Craig Bond movies, but not because of Craig. I think he is a good actor and I think he plays a very good Bond. The issues I have with those Bond movies are more script related.

I think I'd agree with that. He'd probably do pretty well if the producers would go back to the way they were thinking with the Brosnan flicks.

Which leads to the question, When it is time to let the franchise die? Are they catering to us old timers who remeber the fist Bond flicks? Or due they continue to grab a large share of new watchers?

Did the Craigs bring in new watchers who likely wouldn't have come for Brosnan-style movies?

Time to let the franchise die is when it doesn't get anyone at all. I don't see the Craig reboot as being as significant or successful as the Star Trek reboot.
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Message 1455118 - Posted: 18 Dec 2013, 14:57:34 UTC
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My recollection of the Bond series is a little different.
My father was design engineer at a factory that produced all kinds of special kit for Rank, particularly the Travelling Matte Printer for Denham Labs that had been used in thousands of movies including most of the Bonds (optical matte of course, no such thing as digital video in the 60s). In fact for the MKII Travelling Matte, I spent many hours wiring up its control console on the kitchen table, making and fitting cableforms to the dozens of little switches, lights and dials.

Also made were large numbers of front- and rear-projection setups for the Pinewood Studios Process Projection dept. for all the Bonds and loads of other stuff like the award-winning sequences in Barberella and 2001. Sometimes as a kid I'd be lucky enough to have a look around Pinewood to see some huge Bond set in The Tank, or see where Bond was skiing in The Tunnel.

Of course my life as a kid was a bit different, watching every epic movie I'd been trained to point at the screen and yell "Fuzzy BP!" or "Wobbly Painted Matte" rather than enjoy the action!

Its a pity all that kit has gone in the bin now, I put a lot of work into some of it. I even spent many many weeks on the kitchen table wiring up a very special high-precision and Very Secret projector for Farnborough TSR2 Project which probably went into a crusher.
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