Too many invalids

Author	Message
Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1453896 - Posted: 14 Dec 2013, 14:21:12 UTC This computer http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5355835&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid= is just having too many invalids. This all started with a stuck download as in thread http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73521. I have been watching this computer and something is just not right. I am looking for some guidance. Thanks SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1453896 ·

Fred E. Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 22 Jul 99 Posts: 768 Credit: 24,140,697 RAC: 0	Message 1454252 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 19:04:36 UTC This computer http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5355835&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid= is just having too many invalids. This all started with a stuck download as in thread http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=73521. I have been watching this computer and something is just not right. I am looking for some guidance. Thanks Bill, I had hoped someone with the magic answer would have responded by now. I'm not sure of the cause, but maybe we can eliminate some possibilities: 1) What are the gpu temperatures? Are you controlling those? 2) Have you rebooted after the problem started? 3) Anyone have ideas? Another Fred Support SETI@home when you search the Web with GoodSearch or shop online with GoodShop. ID: 1454252 ·

petri33 Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 6 Jun 02 Posts: 1668 Credit: 623,086,772 RAC: 156	Message 1454260 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 19:53:55 UTC - in response to Message 1454252. To fix disk errors: (if any) run cmd.exe type chkdsk /F c: [+ enter] after that completes: 1) delete c:\windows\prefetch\. 2) reboot + and the usual del .bin from seti directory/folder. To overcome Heisenbergs: "You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones ID: 1454260 ·

Josef W. Segur Volunteer developer Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 30 Oct 99 Posts: 4504 Credit: 1,414,761 RAC: 0	Message 1454276 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 21:25:28 UTC Almost all the invalids for both CPU and NVIDIA GPU have exited very quickly and there's no stderr info. Those two factors may or may not be related, the BOINC client has shown a tendency to not get stderr info for many years. But there are a couple of invalid full length CPU task runs, one with partial stderr info and one with full stderr. That latter is Task 3278780714 for WU 1376419148. The WU details include: Task Computer Sent Time Status click for reported details or deadline explain 3278780714 5355835 11 Dec 2013, 11 Dec 2013, Completed, 20:50:35 22:40:55 marked as UTC UTC invalid 3278780715 6232760 11 Dec 2013, 12 Dec 2013, Completed, 20:50:32 3:58:20 validation UTC UTC inconclusive 3279416805 5169348 12 Dec 2013, 1 Jan 2014, In progress 5:00:36 UTC 16:10:18 UTC The invalid status on your result indicates the SaH Validator could not open your result file. Perhaps what was sent contained no data. The only thing I can think of which might cause all those symptoms is a virus scanner locking files while it checks them, but it probably won't be that simple. Joe ID: 1454276 ·

TBar Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768	Message 1454279 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 21:42:33 UTC - in response to Message 1454276. A long time ago I ended up with a 'lock' file being 'locked' up. But, I think I was receiving messages about the lock file being in use. If it is a locked lock file, you would need to delete all the folders in the slots folder. It might be best to just delete everything and start over... Projects/Remove shrugs ID: 1454279 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1454288 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 22:09:21 UTC - in response to Message 1454276. The only thing I can think of which might cause all those symptoms is a virus scanner locking files while it checks them, but it probably won't be that simple. Joe It is a Win 8.1 computer, my beta Win 8 machine, and everything seemed to be running OK and the Windows Defender has been running forever on this computer. I wish is was that simple. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1454288 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1454294 - Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 22:37:07 UTC - in response to Message 1454279. A long time ago I ended up with a 'lock' file being 'locked' up. But, I think I was receiving messages about the lock file being in use. If it is a locked lock file, you would need to delete all the folders in the slots folder. It might be best to just delete everything and start over... Projects/Remove shrugs Never saw anything like that..... But I just did a reinstall of lunitics from my original download and when I restarted BOINC I am getting a message that I have no useable version of Seti@homeV7 Seems I am going from bad to worse. I did notice that I had a bunch of AP in my SETI file (along with all the others. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1454294 ·

TBar Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768	Message 1454325 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 0:48:04 UTC - in response to Message 1454294. I don't suppose you've ever seen anything like what's going on in your results pages either. Deleting the contents of your BOINC/slots folder will only result in losing your active tasks. Since you don't have any active tasks, you won't lose a thing. On the other hand, you are producing quite a few invalids at present... ID: 1454325 ·

James Sotherden Send message Joined: 16 May 99 Posts: 10436 Credit: 110,373,059 RAC: 54	Message 1454344 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 1:34:18 UTC Im going to ask a stupid question then, In case I run into furure problems down the road and need to repair BOINC. Lets say I have some kind of problem and I decide that I need to uninstall Boinc. Does that totaly erase all Boinc folders and files? Or do I need to go into the project files for Seti@home and manually delete those files before I do a re-install? I suspect that if I only do a re-install over possible corrupt files I can muck the files up more. And I do realize that any ap_config.xml files I had made, Would need to be recreated again. Im only asking because Im wondering if the OP maybe still has some left over files that are still around. [/quote] Old James ID: 1454344 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1454347 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 1:37:34 UTC - in response to Message 1454325. I don't suppose you've ever seen anything like what's going on in your results pages either. Deleting the contents of your BOINC/slots folder will only result in losing your active tasks. Since you don't have any active tasks, you won't lose a thing. On the other hand, you are producing quite a few invalids at present... So are you saying I should delete the APs? or the almost 100 WUs there as well. For some reason they have stopped being worked on. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1454347 ·

TBar Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768	Message 1454360 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 1:52:31 UTC - in response to Message 1454347. Last modified: 16 Dec 2013, 2:24:07 UTC For Windows 8, go to ProgramData/BOINC/slots The only contents in that folder are the RUNNING or ACTIVE tasks. Usually, there is only a handful of folders in the slots folder. If you have 100 APs in there, you have other problems. Uninstalling/Reinstalling BOINC doesn't touch what's in your Data Folder. If there's a problem in the slots folder, you have to manually fix it. ID: 1454360 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1454378 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 4:09:12 UTC - in response to Message 1454360. For Windows 8, go to ProgramData/BOINC/slots The only contents in that folder are the RUNNING or ACTIVE tasks. Usually, there is only a handful of folders in the slots folder. If you have 100 APs in there, you have other problems. Uninstalling/Reinstalling BOINC doesn't touch what's in your Data Folder. If there's a problem in the slots folder, you have to manually fix it. I have 5 slot folders with data in only one and that I am guessing would be the one running WU that I have at present. The WUs and APs that I am seeing are in the Programdata/BOINC/Projects/Setiathome.Berkeley.edu folder. What about them? (well to bed for today-I will check back in in the morning). I am getting messages now that I have exceeded my downloads for the day, I am sure that is related to the number of non-valid tasks that I have right now. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1454378 ·

Geek@Play Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0	Message 1454383 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 4:34:50 UTC Last modified: 16 Dec 2013, 5:07:57 UTC Just a shot in the dark........... Where did you get drivers 331.93 for that computer? The NVIDIA site shows the following for your GT 610 Version 331.82 - WHQL Release Date Tue Nov 19, 2013 Operating System Windows 7 64-bit Windows 8.1 64-bit Windows 8 64-bit Windows Vista 64-bit I believe we always recommend drivers directly from NVIDIA. I see now you got it from GEFORCE but that BETA driver has NOT been WHQL certified and could still have bugs. Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... ID: 1454383 ·

TBar Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 22 May 99 Posts: 5204 Credit: 840,779,836 RAC: 2,768	Message 1454387 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 5:04:29 UTC - in response to Message 1454378. For Windows 8, go to ProgramData/BOINC/slots The only contents in that folder are the RUNNING or ACTIVE tasks. Usually, there is only a handful of folders in the slots folder. If you have 100 APs in there, you have other problems. Uninstalling/Reinstalling BOINC doesn't touch what's in your Data Folder. If there's a problem in the slots folder, you have to manually fix it. I have 5 slot folders with data in only one and that I am guessing would be the one running WU that I have at present. The WUs and APs that I am seeing are in the Programdata/BOINC/Projects/Setiathome.Berkeley.edu folder. What about them? (well to bed for today-I will check back in in the morning). I am getting messages now that I have exceeded my downloads for the day, I am sure that is related to the number of non-valid tasks that I have right now. Well, according to the webpage, you don't have any tasks in progress on that host; http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5355835 So, whatever tasks you have in Programdata/BOINC/Projects/Setiathome.Berkeley.edu must be ghosts.... ID: 1454387 ·

Geek@Play Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 31 Jul 01 Posts: 2467 Credit: 86,146,931 RAC: 0	Message 1454402 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 6:19:03 UTC Last modified: 16 Dec 2013, 6:23:16 UTC And one more shot in the dark........ Since driver 331.93 is a BETA driver for Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag, are you attempting to play this game and crunch for SETI at the same time? That could be another no-no. Again, I always recommend only drivers from the official NVIDIA web site. WWW.NVIDIA.com Boinc....Boinc....Boinc....Boinc.... ID: 1454402 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1454436 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 11:04:06 UTC - in response to Message 1454383. Just a shot in the dark........... Where did you get drivers 331.93 for that computer? The NVIDIA site shows the following for your GT 610 Version 331.82 - WHQL Release Date Tue Nov 19, 2013 Operating System Windows 7 64-bit Windows 8.1 64-bit Windows 8 64-bit Windows Vista 64-bit I believe we always recommend drivers directly from NVIDIA. I see now you got it from GEFORCE but that BETA driver has NOT been WHQL certified and could still have bugs. When I started to have these errors I tried the beta drivers to see if that would make any difference. It made no difference. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1454436 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1454437 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 11:08:07 UTC - in response to Message 1454387. Well, according to the webpage, you don't have any tasks in progress on that host; http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=5355835 So, whatever tasks you have in Programdata/BOINC/Projects/Setiathome.Berkeley.edu must be ghosts.... Well by now that last task finished, that is all and now I am at no tasks in progress. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1454437 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1454438 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 11:10:27 UTC - in response to Message 1454402. And one more shot in the dark........ Since driver 331.93 is a BETA driver for Assassins Creed 4 Black Flag, are you attempting to play this game and crunch for SETI at the same time? That could be another no-no. Again, I always recommend only drivers from the official NVIDIA web site. WWW.NVIDIA.com I do not game and in my previous post it was an attempted fix, downloaded from NVIDIA. SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1454438 ·

William Volunteer tester Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0	Message 1454449 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 12:18:16 UTC Well that looks nicely borked. neither CPU nor GPU are starting properly - you see that from the seconds runtime. that might point to a permissions problem. I'd try a repair or new install of Boinc first and then drop back to stock. (rename app_info.xml) . as stock quota hasn't been touched, you'll get some test tasks. if those work properly, reinstall Lunatics - grab it freshly from CA, make sure you get the right bitness. Check your log for the data directory and go back a few months - if that changed at some point things might be talking at cross purposes. when you went win 8/8.1 did you by chance add (non-admin) users? A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) ID: 1454449 ·

Bill G Send message Joined: 1 Jun 01 Posts: 1282 Credit: 187,688,550 RAC: 182	Message 1454469 - Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 13:16:47 UTC - in response to Message 1454449. Well that looks nicely borked. neither CPU nor GPU are starting properly - you see that from the seconds runtime. that might point to a permissions problem. I'd try a repair or new install of Boinc first and then drop back to stock. (rename app_info.xml) . as stock quota hasn't been touched, you'll get some test tasks. if those work properly, reinstall Lunatics - grab it freshly from CA, make sure you get the right bitness. Check your log for the data directory and go back a few months - if that changed at some point things might be talking at cross purposes. when you went win 8/8.1 did you by chance add (non-admin) users? Renamed the app_info.xml file and went back a version of BOINC on a new reload after removing the current BOINC. Some errors on start up but the GPU got tasks and they started. (I also went back to stock NVIDIA drivers) Then after a few minutes the CPU got tasks. I did get some errors in my log at start up: 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Starting BOINC client version 7.2.28 for windows_x86_64 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Libraries: libcurl/7.25.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1 zlib/1.2.6 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Running under account Bill 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GT 610 (driver version 331.82, CUDA version 6.0, compute capability 2.1, 2048MB, 1842MB available, 156 GFLOPS peak) 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GT 610 (driver version 331.82, CUDA version 6.0, compute capability 2.1, 2048MB, 1988MB available, 156 GFLOPS peak) 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GT 610 (driver version 331.82, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 2048MB, 1842MB available, 156 GFLOPS peak) 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GT 610 (driver version 331.82, device version OpenCL 1.1 CUDA, 2048MB, 1988MB available, 156 GFLOPS peak) 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_AVXx.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_AVXx.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_AVXx.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file AKv8c_Bb_r1846_winx86_AVXx.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r1797.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file AP6_win_x86_SSE_CPU_r1797.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| SETI@home \| [error] State file error: missing application file Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda32.exe 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Host name: Bill8 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Processor: 4 AuthenticAMD AMD FX(tm)-4130 Quad-Core Processor [Family 21 Model 1 Stepping 2] 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs xop skinit wdt lwp fma4 topx page1gb rdtscp 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1: Professional with Media Center x64 Edition, (06.03.9600.00) 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Memory: 7.97 GB physical, 15.97 GB virtual 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Disk: 465.42 GB total, 295.80 GB free 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Local time is UTC -5 hours 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Config: use all coprocessors 12/16/2013 7:57:54 AM \| \| Version change (7.2.33 -> 7.2.28) SETI@home classic workunits 4,019 SETI@home classic CPU time 34,348 hours ID: 1454469 ·

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