Self DNA tester


log in

Advanced search

Message boards : Politics : Self DNA tester

Author Message
Profile Bob DeWoody
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 9 May 10
Posts: 1360
Credit: 546,884
RAC: 349
United States
Message 1447344 - Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 7:59:41 UTC

I have seen ads on TV recently for a home DNA testing kit that is supposed to be able to illustrate certain health tendencies of an individual. I wonder about the accuracy of such an over the counter self testing kit. I also wonder why family doctors are not prescribing such tests to be performed by professional labs to help them guide us to a healthier life.
____________
Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required.

Profile The Simonator
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 18 Nov 04
Posts: 4990
Credit: 1,923,942
RAC: 1,012
United Kingdom
Message 1447356 - Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 10:25:57 UTC

I'd be worried about insurance companies getting hold of the data.
____________
There's nothing cuter than a baby's laugh.
Unless it's 2am and you live alone!

Profile ignorance is no excuse
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 4 Oct 00
Posts: 9529
Credit: 44,433,274
RAC: 0
Korea, North
Message 1447450 - Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 17:19:52 UTC

IIRC the FDA has asked the 23 and me company to cease testing.

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/nov/25/genetics-23andme-fda-marketing-pgs-screening
____________
In a rich man's house there is no place to spit but his face.
Diogenes Of Sinope

End terrorism by building a school

rob smith
Volunteer tester
Send message
Joined: 7 Mar 03
Posts: 8120
Credit: 52,227,510
RAC: 78,153
United Kingdom
Message 1447456 - Posted: 27 Nov 2013, 17:47:13 UTC

Full marks (well I am feeling generous this evening) to the FDA for stopping this company of snake oils salesmen in their tracks.
____________
Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

Profile Bob DeWoody
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 9 May 10
Posts: 1360
Credit: 546,884
RAC: 349
United States
Message 1449736 - Posted: 4 Dec 2013, 3:37:16 UTC
Last modified: 4 Dec 2013, 3:37:36 UTC

Thanks Skildude for your research and the link you provided. I am surprised that the FCC has allowed this company to air their misleading ads. I am naturally skeptical of such things but there are so many gullible folks out there who have most likely paid to have these tests run.
____________
Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required.

Profile Wiggo
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 24 Jan 00
Posts: 6433
Credit: 90,028,613
RAC: 74,343
Australia
Message 1449791 - Posted: 4 Dec 2013, 5:26:30 UTC

Now tests like this linked 1 came up here about 2yrs ago with the same findings.

You will be ripped off in many ways.

If you want a DNA test done then just pay the $'s to your local government approved medical agency that does these tests (whether you do this with or without a court's paternity test order is another story).

Cheers.

WinterKnight
Volunteer tester
Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 8476
Credit: 22,990,290
RAC: 14,301
United Kingdom
Message 1449869 - Posted: 4 Dec 2013, 11:29:43 UTC

Even made the Beeb.

Gene testing firm 23andMe halts marketing

Profile Chris S
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 19 Nov 00
Posts: 30984
Credit: 11,168,475
RAC: 19,861
United Kingdom
Message 1449873 - Posted: 4 Dec 2013, 11:36:36 UTC

It was pretty obvious that it wasn't going to last. Professional Labs don't do DNA testing for commercial gain. This was an attempt by a get rich quick outfit who thought they saw a niche in the market, and didn't do their homework properly.

Profile Julie
Volunteer moderator
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 28 Oct 09
Posts: 18375
Credit: 3,325,428
RAC: 6,282
Belgium
Message 1449882 - Posted: 4 Dec 2013, 12:27:08 UTC

Self DNA tester... The things people 'invent' these days...

I'll be back in five, just gonna test some DNA with my 'at-home kit'! Oh boy...
____________


rOZZ

Profile Bob DeWoody
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 9 May 10
Posts: 1360
Credit: 546,884
RAC: 349
United States
Message 1450085 - Posted: 4 Dec 2013, 23:38:08 UTC

Now back to the other half of my original post. Is my doctor still in the stone age or is it still not a commonly used tool for preventative medicine? Or would people freak out if their doctor told them they had a high probability of contracting a life threatening disease?
____________
Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required.

Profile Chris S
Volunteer tester
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 19 Nov 00
Posts: 30984
Credit: 11,168,475
RAC: 19,861
United Kingdom
Message 1450269 - Posted: 5 Dec 2013, 15:19:30 UTC

OMG, I have a hereditary propensity for ingrowing toenails. Please excuse me while I rush off and re-write my will, as I will no doubt cast of the mortal coil very shortly.

WinterKnight
Volunteer tester
Send message
Joined: 18 May 99
Posts: 8476
Credit: 22,990,290
RAC: 14,301
United Kingdom
Message 1450275 - Posted: 5 Dec 2013, 15:32:51 UTC - in response to Message 1450085.

Now back to the other half of my original post. Is my doctor still in the stone age or is it still not a commonly used tool for preventative medicine? Or would people freak out if their doctor told them they had a high probability of contracting a life threatening disease?

The doctor will probably be able to control them when giving them the news. But what will freak them out over there is that their health insurance would either be null and void, or increase by a factor of 10.

Profile James Sotherden
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 16 May 99
Posts: 8508
Credit: 30,971,690
RAC: 53,637
United States
Message 1450532 - Posted: 6 Dec 2013, 7:09:30 UTC - in response to Message 1450275.

Now back to the other half of my original post. Is my doctor still in the stone age or is it still not a commonly used tool for preventative medicine? Or would people freak out if their doctor told them they had a high probability of contracting a life threatening disease?

The doctor will probably be able to control them when giving them the news. But what will freak them out over there is that their health insurance would either be null and void, or increase by a factor of 10.

And there is the rub. Id say keep your gentic makeup secret from the damn bean counters at the insurance companys.
I can forsee a day in the not to distant future where a DNA scan is done at conception. And a few days later your insurance provider says they wont insure your kid beacuse of supposed gentic disorder. Please abort!.
____________

Old James

Profile The Simonator
Avatar
Send message
Joined: 18 Nov 04
Posts: 4990
Credit: 1,923,942
RAC: 1,012
United Kingdom
Message 1450602 - Posted: 6 Dec 2013, 12:24:34 UTC - in response to Message 1450275.
Last modified: 6 Dec 2013, 12:24:42 UTC

Now back to the other half of my original post. Is my doctor still in the stone age or is it still not a commonly used tool for preventative medicine? Or would people freak out if their doctor told them they had a high probability of contracting a life threatening disease?

The doctor will probably be able to control them when giving them the news. But what will freak them out over there is that their health insurance would either be null and void, or increase by a factor of 10.

Exactly what i meant.

It's the same reason why i won't have a black box in my car for insurance companies. I had visions of standing on the brakes when i kid runs into the road, and then recieving a letter from Admiral demanding an extra fifty quid for reckless driving.
____________
There's nothing cuter than a baby's laugh.
Unless it's 2am and you live alone!


Send message
Joined: 3 Apr 99
Posts: 2082
Credit: 37,612,623
RAC: 9,435
Message 1450620 - Posted: 6 Dec 2013, 13:50:19 UTC
Last modified: 21 Mar 2014, 22:58:20 UTC

--

Terror Australis
Volunteer tester
Send message
Joined: 14 Feb 04
Posts: 1665
Credit: 203,379,797
RAC: 26,110
Australia
Message 1450702 - Posted: 6 Dec 2013, 17:17:50 UTC - in response to Message 1450085.
Last modified: 6 Dec 2013, 17:18:36 UTC

Now back to the other half of my original post. Is my doctor still in the stone age or is it still not a commonly used tool for preventative medicine? Or would people freak out if their doctor told them they had a high probability of contracting a life threatening disease?

Bob you answered your own question. Are you or your medical insurer willing to pay for you to have a full DNA sequence to see if you have "defective" genes ? If it turns out you do, is your medical insurer going to keep you on their books ? I also reckon that one of the most rampant diseases around at the minute is hypochondria and DNA testing is God's gift to a hypochondriac !!

From what I read, a DNA test can only indicate an increased probability of contracting a certain disease. It cannot state with any definitive certainty that you will or won't fall victim to such a problem.

There are just so many variables outside genetics such as diet, environment and other lifestyle choices that influence these things.

Remember, irrespective of genetics, lifestyle or whatever, you will still die one day. The best we can hope for is to still be in charge of all our faculties when the Fates cut the thread.

T.A.

Message boards : Politics : Self DNA tester

Copyright © 2014 University of California