True but as many pointed out several years ago and we were ignored. The project shut the forums down for 3 days yet even that was ignored.

Next time around, I can't see them coming back. Do we all want to see that happen?

I don't so the quicker that one account rule is applied the better.

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True but as many pointed out several years ago and we were ignored. The project shut the forums down for 3 days yet even that was ignored.

Next time around, I can't see them coming back. Do we all want to see that happen?

I don't so the quicker that one account rule is applied the better.

That was before my time. I didnt join the boards until late 08. It was after the big todoo when a lot of folks got permabanned.
I dont know when you started in the forums. But today even with all the garbage that goes on it still is a lot nicer place then it was in 2005, 2006 or 2007. I know you cant see many posts now days because they are hidden, But as a mod I went back there 3 times looking for rules for various cafe games. and yes I read every thread I could. Some were empty it was just a thread title. I can tell you it was a very nasty forum. Much worse than politics is today.

Moderation back then was totaly brutal, Unless you were buddys with a mod. They answerd to no one I could see. Now they do.

Is moderation perfect. No it will never be as we are human. But I sure like the moderation now with Admin oversight than that to years gone by.

And if the few buttheads insist on still creating disharmony among us and the project does decide to close the forums. I will still crunch. I believe in this project and I have right from when I joined.

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And if the few buttheads insist on still creating disharmony among us and the project does decide to close the forums. I will still crunch. I believe in this project and I have right from when I joined.

I endorse this sentiment wholeheartedly, James. The discord we see at present is the ultimate goal of the troll(s).

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And if the few buttheads insist on still creating disharmony among us and the project does decide to close the forums. I will still crunch. I believe in this project and I have right from when I joined.

I endorse this sentiment wholeheartedly, James. The discord we see at present is the ultimate goal of the troll(s).

+1

We need to keep the science and the Forums separate.

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I only have one account and that's fine by me.

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Holy, schmoly, the thread seems to have drifted ever-so-slightly off topic. :P

Anyhow the idea of two people, each with an account but using the same computer seems to not have any overly harsh objections, n'est pas?

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Holy, schmoly, the thread seems to have drifted ever-so-slightly off topic. :P

Anyhow the idea of two people, each with an account but using the same computer seems to not have any overly harsh objections, n'est pas?

I would think so:)

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Holy, schmoly, the thread seems to have drifted ever-so-slightly off topic. :P

Anyhow the idea of two people, each with an account but using the same computer seems to not have any overly harsh objections, n'est pas?

I can't see any problem there as 1 female's RAC at least has been supported that way before (I'm sure that her hubby wouldn't done that if it was against the rules). :-D

Cheers.

It is a pleasure to see the project admin take note of issues that occur.

The problem here is one of viewpoints. We all have them and most with common sense accept that. However, when duplicity or un-common sense is shown and pointed out, what do we see.....

Case in point: -

I think I had 6 or 7 back then which I haven't used for over 7 years I wouldn't even know what the passwords are now.

Err, how about using the forgot password button?

It has always been a bone of contention for me that these people are allowed to crunch as an individual, when by rights they should be a team.

Fair comment. So how about having the good grace to allow others theirs? I still cannot see a valid reason for multiple accounts.

and were getting in the way of the science.
Otherwise it isn't fair competition with those of us with just a couple of computers at home.

Since when has this project become a kiddie's competition? Many a time threads have been interrupted by the comment 'I'm in it for the science'

So it's either a *Jimmy Cagney or science, one or the other not both.

*Look Ma I'm top of the world.

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Oh dear.

@aka_Sam I don't see any problem in sharing a computer to support two distinct posters RAC so they can post. You just need to remember to swap accounts now and again or jump through a couple hoops and have boinc maintain two distincs accounts [it can be done].

@Sirus the forgotten pwd link only works if you remember the email AND have access to it. OR if you still have a backup of the data directory and can pull the accountkey from there.

On multiple accounts: as Fred pointed out, multiple accounts are only disallowed if used to bypass a ban. If you have a main account and a 'fun' account, should either of the two get banned, you'd have to be silent on the other too [unless you are such a good actor that nobody has spotted the secondary one as being secondary].

You might not see a reason, Sirius, but I do and I have and you (and others) know it. There may be many more, as many as there are people.
Anyway, you can disagree but you don't make policy here.

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A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain)

The important word here I believe was 'Viewpoint not policy.

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It's Your computer, you can let any one use it as you wish. The big no no is using other peoples equipment without their consent to crunch Seti.

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The important word here I believe was 'Viewpoint not policy.

You are of course fully entitled to your viewpoint.

To harp on about multiple accounts after having been referred to policy a few times isn't a fruitful discussion, in my view.

Unless you want to mimic Cato of course. Took Cato 10 years. We may be here some time, then. *gets popcorn*

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A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain)

Had you read the posts correctly, you would have found that it was stated that the accounts were amalgamated into one but 6/7 had the passwords forgotten.

Ergo, the e-mail addy was remembered.

Secondly, it is policy to have S@H authorised to run.

At one time I had 32 rigs internally and 28 externally and authorised. Just why should I have those running as a team and not on my account?

You cannot have one view ignoring others. When policy is brought into the debate, expect reasonable replies.

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You can put all rigs you run under one account without ever touching the other (old) accounts.

Sure, you need to have authorisation to run SETI on a particular rig. I don't think that was debated. I suggest you don't imply somebody is running illegally unless you have proof. That's slander.

The question that was originally asked was whether you could put a rig on somebody else's account to give them posting RAC. Of course you can, up to you on which account your lawful running ends up.

Policy was stated, it wasn't opened to debate.

Of course I can have my view and ignore all others. That's what most people do all the time.

This is starting to feel like it doesn't belong in the cafe. The original question has been answered and the OP did say 'gone offtopic'.

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A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain)

I suggest you don't imply somebody is running illegally unless you have proof. That's slander.

I never implied that at all. My point was multiple account holders.

I have received many pm's stating that Mr X is also Mr Y & Z. What is getting my goat is that those were from a multiple account holder himself.

Also it was posted for all to see that multiple computers on one account is a 'bone of contention' from one who operates a crunching farm?

Total duplicity.

Ergo, my bone of contention from posters such as that is why the need for multiple accounts?

Another case in point that very same poster ran Robert down and implied that he was I.D. From a multiple account holder again.

Look Ma Top of the World

With constant posts like that, it is beginning to look like those with multiple accounts have a beef against others with multiple accounts, therefore the suggestion that one account only seems reasonable.

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I suggest you don't imply somebody is running illegally unless you have proof. That's slander.

I never implied that at all. My point was multiple account holders.

I have received many pm's stating that Mr X is also Mr Y & Z. What is getting my goat is that those were from a multiple account holder himself.

Also it was posted for all to see that multiple computers on one account is a 'bone of contention' from one who operates a crunching farm?

Total duplicity.

Ergo, my bone of contention from posters such as that is why the need for multiple accounts?

Another case in point that very same poster ran Robert down and implied that he was I.D. From a multiple account holder again.

Look Ma Top of the World

With constant posts like that, it is beginning to look like those with multiple accounts have a beef against others with multiple accounts, therefore the suggestion that one account only seems reasonable.

I saw that post, It sure looked liked we know who, Who had just been given a vacation. It may have been a spoof, Or an end run, Which are both wrong.
But to say all who have mulitiple accounts are up to no good is wrong also.

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But to say all who have mulitiple accounts are up to no good is wrong also.

+1

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Good point James. It does look as though allowing multiple accounts could have been a mistake.

I never intended to imply that and if it came across that way, then my apologies to all.

I still cannot see the need for more than one though. The project does have four locations under one's account page
Home
Work
School
mobile

Again, it is just a viewpoint and I believe these forums are available to allow us to express them (within reason of course).

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It has been suggested that anyone permabanned should have their IP addy noted and any new account checked against the "naughty list". Apart from extra work for the Mods, people can use a pals computer, one from work, go down to an Internet cafe. There is also IP Spoofing using a proxy go between, e.g. someone in North America can appear to be in Australia. But we have enough responsible posters here that if we kept our eyes open and saw a new account sounding suspiciously like a banned person, we could flag it up. Yes there will be false alarms, but it could weed those dodgy ones out more quickly.

We use that on the car forum i own/run. It was implemented in the forum software at around version 2.2, made life much easier. Granted it's not perfect, but i'd say it cut down on ~85% of the spam accounts.

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