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Message 1436404 - Posted: 1 Nov 2013, 8:42:29 UTC
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Are there any plans to have a seti app for the xbox one and ps4 as these machines are 8 core 86 based powerhouses
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Message 1436507 - Posted: 1 Nov 2013, 16:05:53 UTC - in response to Message 1436404.  

Are there any plans to have a seti app for the xbox one and ps4 as these machines are 8 core 86 based powerhouses


Unless they open up the machines for outside applications, probably not.

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Message 1444345 - Posted: 20 Nov 2013, 4:43:53 UTC

Such a shame if it dosnt happen all that power and potenionaly millions of machines that will be avalible to use
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Message 1444359 - Posted: 20 Nov 2013, 5:48:35 UTC

PS3 had support for Linux. So people were using it for "stuff". But then SONY pulled the support. End of story.
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Message 1444360 - Posted: 20 Nov 2013, 5:48:49 UTC - in response to Message 1444345.  

Such a shame if it dosnt happen all that power and potenionaly millions of machines that will be avalible to use


Why should they my computer can't even be supplied with ap work units at the moment because ap are constantly running out and it wasn't too long ago I would constantly run out of mb work units.
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Message 1444406 - Posted: 20 Nov 2013, 8:40:31 UTC - in response to Message 1444360.  

Why should they my computer can't even be supplied with ap work units at the moment because ap are constantly running out and it wasn't too long ago I would constantly run out of mb work units.

There are pretty much always enough MBs available. If you want to run AP-only, that's your choise.
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Message 1444407 - Posted: 20 Nov 2013, 8:49:09 UTC

I run both gpu and cpu. No point in letting those go to waist
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Message 1444408 - Posted: 20 Nov 2013, 8:50:30 UTC

As i own the ps4 and on the 22 nd the xbox one it would be great Thats just my opinion
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Message 1450268 - Posted: 5 Dec 2013, 15:16:31 UTC

Can't you develop apps for these systems? If so, porting BOINC and SETI shouldn't be an issue, especially for the Xbox One.
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Message 1450377 - Posted: 5 Dec 2013, 20:44:17 UTC - in response to Message 1450268.  

It would be good
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Message 1450487 - Posted: 6 Dec 2013, 5:23:00 UTC - in response to Message 1450268.  
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Can't you develop apps for these systems? If so, porting BOINC and SETI shouldn't be an issue, especially for the Xbox One.


As mentioned, it's a "closed" system. If you want to write apps for it, you need to enter into a contract with MS. Pay money, sign non-disclosure agreements, give them your first born son, soul, etc.

Now this has the advantage that every console has the same configuration, so the games you buy always run. Malware would be hard to introduce into the system etc. This is why they are consoles. They just work, turn them and and play your game. They aren't supposed to be customised like a PC can be. If they open the system up, then it loses the main advantage that consoles have...

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Edit, the rumoured "Steam Box" is another kettle of fish though. It will be running Linux, which is by definition an Open Source product.
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Message 1450697 - Posted: 6 Dec 2013, 17:02:34 UTC - in response to Message 1450487.  

It's already known how to get to the options for developers on the Xbox One, so maybe they are not so closed as some may think.


turn them and and play your game.

That worked like that over a decade ago. With the next gen consoles it's more like: turn it on, wait for hundreds of GBs of updates and once they are installed, you might eventually be able to play the game.
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Message 1450746 - Posted: 6 Dec 2013, 19:00:40 UTC - in response to Message 1450697.  

It's already known how to get to the options for developers on the Xbox One, so maybe they are not so closed as some may think.


turn them and and play your game.

That worked like that over a decade ago. With the next gen consoles it's more like: turn it on, wait for hundreds of GBs of updates and once they are installed, you might eventually be able to play the game.

The problem is that even though some information is known. The overall system is still a closed system.

If you break the rules of the closed system, what will M$ do? They are not going to celebrate your "achievement". They might say: "Ok mofo, you like breaking our regulations? Well, we will just ban you from our closed system. You can play on your console at home, but any time you try to connect to our servers, we will deny you the connection!" If you have to get internet info and download work units for your "hacked" console by going through M$ servers, you are now effed up.
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Message 1450800 - Posted: 6 Dec 2013, 21:00:39 UTC - in response to Message 1450746.  

That worked like that over a decade ago. With the next gen consoles it's more like: turn it on, wait for hundreds of GBs of updates and once they are installed, you might eventually be able to play the game.


True....

But the idea is the same. The console ends up in EXACTLY the same state as every other console. No different versions of OS, different configurations, different driver revisions etc.

Unlock the system, and you leave it vulnerable to all the gremlins that plague PC gaming. MS don't want the support headaches that this causes, and most console buyers don't either. If you want to be able to customise and run different OS's, you should just buy a PC (With or without Windows)

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Message 1451064 - Posted: 7 Dec 2013, 13:43:40 UTC - in response to Message 1450800.  

No different versions of OS, different configurations, different driver revisions etc.

This can still be true even if applications from "unofficial" sources are allowed. BOINC for example does not change any of these and most other applications also don't do it.
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