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Message 1513445 - Posted: 7 May 2014, 22:09:37 UTC - in response to Message 1513428.  
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This a good read as well.

Creation in the lab



Wow! You're not wrong :)


"You can make stars and galaxies that look like the real thing. But it is the dark matter that is calling the shots".


In the beginning, it shows strands of mysterious material which cosmologists call "dark matter" sprawling across the emptiness of space like branches of a cosmic tree. As millions of years pass by, the dark matter clumps and concentrates to form seeds for the first galaxies.

Then emerges the non-dark matter, the stuff that will in time go on to make stars, planets and life emerge.

But early on there are a series of cataclysmic explosions when it gets sucked into black holes and then spat out: a chaotic period which was regulating the formation of stars and galaxies. Eventually, the simulation settles into a Universe that is similar to the one we see around us.

According to Dr Mark Vogelsberger of Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), who led the research, the simulations back many of the current theories of cosmology.


Just some bits from the report I will be getting my head round with my NEXT cup of coffee :)

Thanks Chris :)
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Message 1513581 - Posted: 8 May 2014, 6:15:50 UTC - in response to Message 1513445.  

Do neutrons hold the key?


Neutrons bouncing in Earth's gravity are helping to shed light on two of the greatest mysteries in the universe, dark matter and dark energy, researchers say.

Dark matter is an invisible substance thought to make up five-sixths of all matter in the universe. The strength of its gravitational pull apparently helps keep galaxies from spinning apart at the speeds at which they whirl.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/05/07/dark-matter-and-dark-energy-mysteries-do-neutrons-hold-key/?intcmp=obnetwork

Dark matter and dark energy mysteries: Do neutrons hold the key?
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Message 1513609 - Posted: 8 May 2014, 8:36:19 UTC - in response to Message 1513581.  

I had linked the Phys.Rev.Lett article but nobody has seen it. I have worked with neutrons in my youth while calibrating a bubble chamber at Trieste University built for the International Atomic Energy Authority and know them rater well.
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Message 1513670 - Posted: 8 May 2014, 14:56:47 UTC - in response to Message 1513330.  

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Such is the nature of Belief.

In the same style as of Nostradamus, you can Believe brief words to surely expand to any meaning you wish. For that has been written, in all surity, by a Great One!


Yae! If you are a True Believer!

For that writing has been written as foretold by Me!


All easy enough when you expand from scant detail all grand in self aggrandisements.

Ok Martin, but you can't deny that they actually wrote those words down when people still believed the Earth was a flat disc!

Indeed so.

However, to understand what was intended, you need to interpret the words in the manner of how they were used at that time in the language and beliefs of the day.

Hence, to 'interpret' scripture from millennia ago, in today's modern use of language literally, is literally farcical.

Also note that you can dream anything you like from allegorical writing...


That style of writing is such that you can believe almost anything you like, surely so! As was self-referenced it was said!! ;-)


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Message 1513700 - Posted: 8 May 2014, 17:26:27 UTC - in response to Message 1513355.  
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You asked about whether the Quoran mentions Dark matter Julie. I found this.Quran - dark matter and the seven heavens
So the "Jinn" are dark matter?

Also note that you can dream anything you like ...


My favorite Jinn.
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Message 1513787 - Posted: 8 May 2014, 20:19:06 UTC - in response to Message 1513670.  
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Apparently 51:47

Quoran

Such is the nature of Belief.

In the same style as of Nostradamus, you can Believe brief words to surely expand to any meaning you wish. For that has been written, in all surity, by a Great One!


Yae! If you are a True Believer!

For that writing has been written as foretold by Me!


All easy enough when you expand from scant detail all grand in self aggrandisements.

Ok Martin, but you can't deny that they actually wrote those words down when people still believed the Earth was a flat disc!

Indeed so.

However, to understand what was intended, you need to interpret the words in the manner of how they were used at that time in the language and beliefs of the day.

Hence, to 'interpret' scripture from millennia ago, in today's modern use of language literally, is literally farcical.

Also note that you can dream anything you like from allegorical writing...


That style of writing is such that you can believe almost anything you like, surely so! As was self-referenced it was said!! ;-)


Keep searchin',
Martin



What's wrong with believing anything you like?

[edit]As long as you have a good personality or a good heart or whatever you like to call it, you can believe in anything you like imo:)

On to dark matter and dark energy again now:)
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Message 1513792 - Posted: 8 May 2014, 20:25:36 UTC - in response to Message 1513787.  

What's wrong with believing anything you like?

The wrong comes when those beliefs are forced on others by codifying them into civil law.
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Message 1513817 - Posted: 8 May 2014, 21:08:39 UTC - in response to Message 1513792.  

What's wrong with believing anything you like?

The wrong comes when those beliefs are forced on others by codifying them into civil law.


I mean good persons should be allowed to believe anything they like:)
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Message 1513833 - Posted: 8 May 2014, 21:55:48 UTC - in response to Message 1513817.  

I mean good persons should be allowed to believe anything they like:)

Even people who are not good can believe what they want; but who doesn't think their beliefs are good? Anyway science can't give a better explanation for dark matter than it is made up of Genies so it could be.
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Message 1513887 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 1:36:17 UTC - in response to Message 1513817.  

What's wrong with believing anything you like?

The wrong comes when those beliefs are forced on others by codifying them into civil law.


I mean good persons should be allowed to believe anything they like:)


Why just good persons?
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Message 1513960 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 6:26:24 UTC - in response to Message 1513887.  
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What's wrong with believing anything you like?

The wrong comes when those beliefs are forced on others by codifying them into civil law.


I mean good persons should be allowed to believe anything they like:)


Why just good persons?


Can you imagine if really 'bad' persons could accomplish the things they like to believe? rape, murder, deceit, infidelity, aggression et all. I don't have to say 'imagine' because it's happening around us every day. My point here is those people KNEW already about the expanding of the universe LONG before anyone ever knew there even WAS a universe at all! Where did it come from? A telepathical thought sent from heaven? LOL How did they know dark energy? Sometimes you have to listen to things people believe in because it ain't bullsh**! You just have to know the value of it yourself.

[edit] I don't say every person who is a 'clairvoyant' has good intentions or a good heart.
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Message 1513976 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 7:10:15 UTC

Did anyone see this in the news, it was on quite a lot of news sites around the world.

Universe evolution recreated in lab

An international team of researchers has created the most complete visual simulation of how the Universe evolved.

The computer model shows how the first galaxies formed around clumps of a mysterious, invisible substance called dark matter.
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Message 1513987 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 7:41:07 UTC - in response to Message 1513976.  

Did anyone see this in the news, it was on quite a lot of news sites around the world.

Universe evolution recreated in lab

An international team of researchers has created the most complete visual simulation of how the Universe evolved.

The computer model shows how the first galaxies formed around clumps of a mysterious, invisible substance called dark matter.

I covered it in my thread about a new branch of astronomy.
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Message 1514087 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 16:06:53 UTC

Just hilarious!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA

Or you explain it correctly or not at all!
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Message 1514096 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 16:42:21 UTC - in response to Message 1513987.  

It's only a model and has its limits.Models are used in all sciences and run on computers. I am running simulations of proton-proton collisions in Test4Theory@home, which help scientists to analyze the 600 millions/second collisions in the LHC. You can't analyze all of them and the model I am running helps scientists to select meaningful events against a background of noise.
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Message 1514113 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 17:12:04 UTC

That is indeed something meaningful Tullio, no doubt. It's just that it is explained in a wrong and too confusing way to the people, but otoh I don't think they lay awake from it:)
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Message 1514151 - Posted: 9 May 2014, 18:05:44 UTC

Very nice read Yo, thanx:) It all comes down to maths sometimes to understand the Universe eventually is what I think, also to communicate with alien species.
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Message 1514324 - Posted: 10 May 2014, 7:42:44 UTC

Is dark matter real? The LHC has not found any WIMP so far, the most likely candidates for it, and ultracold neutrons don't feel any attraction by dark matter. So, does it exist only in some parts of the Universe and not in our Galaxy? That is the question.
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Message 1514361 - Posted: 10 May 2014, 11:10:02 UTC

Dark matter is just a trick of the Jinn; the Jinn get a kick out of messing with humans.
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