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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
All that these large particle colliders will do is to show even more unknown exotic particles that the scientists then have to explain the existence of. I'd rather see the money spent on cures for cancer. True:( It does grab people's imagination though. Very expensive 'toy' it is:( rOZZ Music Pictures |
William Rothamel Send message Joined: 25 Oct 06 Posts: 3756 Credit: 1,999,735 RAC: 4 |
The knowledge gained from CERN will undoubtedly, one day, lead to a benefit for all of human kind. The benefit may be far in the future and maybe can't even be imagined now. The number "three" is an abstract construct as are all numbers. They describe what happens in our world. Quantum Mechanics and Nuclear physics have led to transistors, lasers and nuclear power and hundreds of other adaptations to modern medicine and society at large. The benefit will come; it is true of most knowledge. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Here is an explanation by Peter Skands of CERN about the work we do at vLHC@home (former Test4Theory@home): We run comparisons not only with LHC data, but also with data from many past colliders, such as the Large Electron Positron Collider (LEP) and the Super Proton Synchrotron (SPS) that preceded the LHC at CERN, Fermilab's Tevatron collider, and SLAC's SLD experiment. By doing that, we not only get a sense of how well the generators compare to the LHC data (our main present goal), but also whether and how well they describe the scaling with collider energy, and between electron-positron and proton-(anti)proton beam types. These tests are definitely useful for the efforts to plan future colliders, such as the International Linear Collider (ILC) and the Future Circular Collider (FCC), as well as a possible muon collider, the Compact Linear Collider (CLIC) and other studies now being undertaken around the globe. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
CERN looks to the future for the second edition of TEDxCERN Geneva, 28 July 2014. Following the success of the first TEDxCERN event last year, CERN1 will be hosting a second TEDx conference on 24 September 2014 on the theme “Forward: Charting the future with scienceâ€. Some 15 speakers will present their innovative and ambitious projects, which apply science to respond to problems facing the world today and prepare for those of tomorrow. rOZZ Music Pictures |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
I sincerely hope that it will do William. There are times that I see little benefit in our present lives. But if we are actually paving the way for a better future for mankind, then that has to be the way forward, Shame you and I won't see it. You never know... You just might... Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
oh Julie Brian Cox will be there at cern darn if i had the funds i'd go just to see and here Brain Cox i even follow him on twitter :) |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Awakening the potential of plasma acceleration Civil engineering has begun for the new Proton Driven Plasma Wakefield Acceleration Experiment (AWAKE) at CERN. This proof-of-principle experiment will harness the power of wakefields generated by proton beams in plasma cells, producing accelerator gradients hundreds of times higher than those used in current radiofrequency cavities. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Julie do you know what they are trying to acctually do in that wake experiment ? I don't understand what it's going to achive |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Julie do you know what they are trying to acctually do in that wake experiment ? I don't understand what it's going to achive From the article: This proof-of-principle experiment will harness the power of wakefields generated by proton beams in plasma cells, producing accelerator gradients hundreds of times higher than those used in current radiofrequency cavities. I found this link too for you, where Wakefields and Impedances and are more explained: https://emetral.web.cern.ch/emetral/USPAS09course/WakeFieldsAndImpedances.pdf rOZZ Music Pictures |
ML1 Send message Joined: 25 Nov 01 Posts: 20265 Credit: 7,508,002 RAC: 20 |
Julie do you know what they are trying to acctually do in that wake experiment ? I don't understand what it's going to achive Good question. My guess is that they wish to harness the newly developed "acceleration gradient" so that a particle accelerator many miles long can be greatly reduced in size to something faster that is also not yet more many miles long... It is experimenting to accelerate particles more quickly in a much shorter distance. In a way, a bit like using new materials for making a taller and steeper roller-coaster! Keep searchin', Martin See new freedom: Mageia Linux Take a look for yourself: Linux Format The Future is what We all make IT (GPLv3) |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Thanks martin , ok i understand what there doing now thanks |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Happy Birthday CERN! A September packed with events to celebrate CERN’s 60th anniversary Geneva, 1 September 2014. rOZZ Music Pictures |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
On Radio 2 of Canton Ticino, the Italian Cantone of Switzerland, there was a story about the fears that CERN could turn to military purposes and violate the neutrality of Switzerland. You know, CERN means European Council for Nuclear Research and when people hear the word "nuclear" they think of nuclear bombs. But, also following the wish of Edoardo Amaldi, one of the Founding Fathers, the statute of CERN excluded any military research. Tullio |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
On Radio 2 of Canton Ticino, the Italian Cantone of Switzerland, there was a story about the fears that CERN could turn to military purposes What's brought that on Tullio ....not the B/S in the Ukraine ?? geess ,that's is still a regional conflict ! |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Amaldi was very firm on that. He tells the story that having visited his former boss Enrico Fermi in Chicago he was told he could not take a walk with him because he did not have the necessary clearances. Of course Fermi had taken part in the Manhattan project but also had refused to join Edward Teller on developing the H bomb. Tullio There is a project in Jordan, a synchrotron radiation facility, called SESAME in which Arab, Iranian, Jordan and Israeli scientists take part. It is directed by an Italian coming from the Elettra Synchrotron built by Carlo Rubbia near Trieste and the Area Science Park where I worked from 1991 to `994. |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Finding the 'God' particle could destroy the universe, warns Stephen Hawking The Higgs boson 'God particle' could destroy the universe, Hawking says Space and time could suddenly collapse - and 'we would not see it coming' If scientists put too much energy in the Higgs boson the universe could end Disaster very unlikely as physicists do not have large enough collider http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2746727/Maybe-shouldn-t-looking-quite-hard-God-particle-destroy-universe-warns-Stephen-Hawking.html |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34053 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Finding the 'God' particle could destroy the universe, warns Stephen Hawking Stephen Hawking is a wise man. I, for one, am very concerned about the experiments with the LHC at CERN and other particle accelerators. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Stephen Hawking says Higgs boson has potential to destroy entire universe. http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/stephen-hawking-says-higgs-boson-has-potential-to-destroy-entire-universe/story-fn5fsgyc-1227050890169 Stephen Hawking has warned that the Higgs boson, the so-called God particle, could cause space and time to collapse. This will cause fresh concerns over the current plans to build 4 much larger particle accelerators (3 of them in China). Cheers. |
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