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PJ Send message Joined: 30 Jun 14 Posts: 127 Credit: 774,387 RAC: 0 |
My thesis adviser,a brilliant young scientist, died in a car crash in 1972. Even a serious accident in a tunnel underground like that of the LHC would have no dire consequences for people on the surface. There are no nuclear materials in the LHC. About 100 km from where I live there are ten or 20 nuclear warheads in an Italian air base but they are American. Any accident there could have much worse consequences. That's something far more terrifying. In the 1970's there were several American Generals (et.al) who believed a 'limited nuclear war in Europe' was feasible |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30591 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
My thesis adviser,a brilliant young scientist, died in a car crash in 1972. Even a serious accident in a tunnel underground like that of the LHC would have no dire consequences for people on the surface. There are no nuclear materials in the LHC. About 100 km from where I live there are ten or 20 nuclear warheads in an Italian air base but they are American. Any accident there could have much worse consequences. This is terrifying. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11354 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
Very high pucker factor. |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
What’s next for Higgs boson research? On July 4, 2012, physicists announced an amazing discovery—they had identified a new particle that looked very much like the predicted Higgs boson. Two years later, physicists have pinned down the traits of this particle and confirmed its identity. But the story doesn’t end there. http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/article/july-2014/whats-next-for-higgs-boson-research |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
thanks Lyn I haven't bin to C.E.R.N latly but they should be firing it back up soon from memory unless thy have delayed it thanks again for keeping us up to date |
yo2013 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 14 Posts: 173 Credit: 50,837 RAC: 0 |
Here you can see the detailed schedule: https://espace.cern.ch/LS1planning/SitePages/Home.aspx |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
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Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
Results from CERN presented at ICHEP Geneva, 7 July 2014. Speaking at press conference held during the 37th International Conference on High Energy Physics, ICHEP, in Valencia, Spain this morning CERN Director General Rolf Heuer gave a resume of results from CERN that are being presented. The conference, which began last Thursday with three days of parallel sessions, now moves on to plenary sessions until Wednesday, summing up the current state of the art in the field. The plenary sessions will be webcast: http://home.web.cern.ch/scientists/updates/2014/07/webcast-all-latest-ichep-2014 rOZZ Music Pictures |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
G'day thanks Julie mite tune in and see what they are up to at this stage |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
thanks chris mm 6 months to go |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
All CERN BOINC projects (Test4Theory@home, ATLAS@home and LHC@home), are to be united in a new vLHC@home project. The first 2 need Virtual Box, the third not so far, but it will need it in the future. I am running T4T and LHC@home, which studies the particles' orbits. I haven't been able so far to run ATLAS@home since it needs a 64-bit Virtual Box, while mine is 32-bit on my 32-bit Linux. Tullio |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Hello Tulio how long before they make the changes ?. I haven't tried to run Test4theory yet on my new rig just trying to get to 1,000,000 points on seti before I start doing other progects again . witch shouldn't take long with this rig I havn't put Java box on it yet do you know if it will work with VM Ware Workstation , I have put that on it . The 64bit version ??? |
yo2013 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 14 Posts: 173 Credit: 50,837 RAC: 0 |
T4T already did the changes: http://lhcathome2.cern.ch/vLHCathome/forum_thread.php?id=1504 Anyway, LHC@Home Classic will not probably change any time soon. |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
Test4Theory@home, now named VirtualLHC@home, needs Virtual Box. I am using the 32-bit version on my 32-bit SuSE Linux. ATLAS@home needs a 64-bit version and I cannot run it. It needs also the BIOS extensions like AMD-V on my AMD Opteron 1210. But Solaris 11.2, a 64-bit OS, runs perfectly as a Virtual Machine on my Virtual Box, and I cannot understand why ATLAS can not. LHC at home so far does not use virtualization, but it could do in the future. This depends on the developers and CERN policies. Tullio |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Thanks Tullio for the info about AMD chips I will remember to add the extension to Java Box now my new rig is AMD , and not Intel and is running 64 bit win 7 |
Julie Send message Joined: 28 Oct 09 Posts: 34041 Credit: 18,883,157 RAC: 18 |
It looks like China is resurfacing everywhere: IHEP in China has ambitions for Higgs factory Who will lay claim to having the world's largest particle smasher?. Could China become the collider capital of the world? Questions tease answers, following a news story in Nature on Tuesday. Proposals for two particle accelerators could accelerate China itself as a scientific leader, upstaging the Large Hadron Collider at CERN, Europe's famous particle-physics laboratory, where the LHC is the world's largest particle collider. rOZZ Music Pictures |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Thanks julie i wondered if China would join the particle race there into everything else why not a bigger colider |
tullio Send message Joined: 9 Apr 04 Posts: 8797 Credit: 2,930,782 RAC: 1 |
When physicists can't resolve a problem they ask for a new machine, be it a cyclotron, a synchrocyclotron, a storage ring or a collider. But when the new machine is built it opens so many new problems that the problem to resolve which it was built is forgotten. Then they ask for more machines to resolve the new problems and so on. This was called "The spiral of high energy" by Italian physicists Angelo Baracca and Silvio Bergia in 1975 and it still applies. Nobel prize winner Emilio Segre', whom I personally knew while publishing a book of his, "Personaggi e scoperte nella fisica contemporanea" had expressed the same ideas in a 1972 article on "Endeavour" magazine. In my opinion particle accelerators are similar to Egyptian pyramids. You build a e bigger one to demonstrate your power and so it may be that the new machine could be built in China. But the International Linear Collider, to be built in Japan, is a strong competitor. Tullio |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Yes Tullio pity they don't build them just for the science and forget about showing off , "look at me my collider is bigger than yours " like little kids . If they do build 1 then it's gona have to be super big to be off any use i would imagine . simular to the 1 at Fermilab being 12 times smaller than Hadron and ppl where worried when they turned it on , just listen to the whales when they turn a even bigger 1 on. |
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