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Message 1460651 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 21:03:21 UTC - in response to Message 1460628.  

The task is left to future generations


Humans do get smarter and smarter but I somehow doubt if we will ever get the big picture.


Oh, I dunno. The human race has only been asking these questions in a serious, scientific way for a hundred years or so. The various religions and philosophies have been at it for thousands of years with disappointing results. Compared to that, science has only just begun.

Answers to the big questions will likely not happen in our lifetime but at least give serious science a couple thousand years to work on it before saying never.



Humans only use a very small percentage of their brains, we do get smarter as we evolve but I just ask myself what would happen if that percentage would rise. Would telekinesis be 'normal' then? Now I'm wandering off but what I want to say is, it's a pity we won't be there to experience that evolution.
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Message 1460667 - Posted: 4 Jan 2014, 22:28:55 UTC - in response to Message 1460651.  
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The task is left to future generations


Humans do get smarter and smarter but I somehow doubt if we will ever get the big picture.


Oh, I dunno. The human race has only been asking these questions in a serious, scientific way for a hundred years or so. The various religions and philosophies have been at it for thousands of years with disappointing results. Compared to that, science has only just begun.

Answers to the big questions will likely not happen in our lifetime but at least give serious science a couple thousand years to work on it before saying never.



Humans only use a very small percentage of their brains, we do get smarter as we evolve but I just ask myself what would happen if that percentage would rise. Would telekinesis be 'normal' then? Now I'm wandering off but what I want to say is, it's a pity we won't be there to experience that evolution.


Scientific American on brain usage

I hate to seem like I'm picking on you, Julie, because I'm not. It just irks me to no end when people pass on falsehoods and myths as if they were true.

In point of fact, we use pretty much all our brain. Most of it isn't used for actual thinking, of course, but it is all used.
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Message 1460854 - Posted: 5 Jan 2014, 13:10:44 UTC

Pretty much all people still believe that even today, so I don't think that Julie is any different than most of us. I had to check it out myself to confirm it as I wasn't that sure about it.

The 10% of brain myth is the widely perpetuated urban legend that most or all humans only make use of 3%, 10% or some other small percentage of their brains. It has been misattributed to people including Albert Einstein. By association, it is suggested that a person may harness this unused potential and increase intelligence. Though factors of intelligence can increase with training, the popular notion that large parts of the brain remain unused, and could subsequently be "activated", rests more in popular folklore than scientific theory. Though mysteries regarding brain function remain—e.g. memory, consciousness — the physiology of brain mapping suggests that most if not all areas of the brain have a function.

% use

But, look at the area highlighted. Do we yet know what all the "functions" are?
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Message 1460877 - Posted: 5 Jan 2014, 15:29:08 UTC - in response to Message 1435730.  

不是中文! :)
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Message 1460903 - Posted: 5 Jan 2014, 16:22:31 UTC - in response to Message 1460877.  

不是中文! :)



Non-Chinese?

I'm sure there are people who use a larger percentage of their brains than 'common' people. Doesn't that have something to do with IQ? I'm really not that familiar with the study of the brains. Thanx for the link, Chris, quite interesting:)
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Message 1460927 - Posted: 5 Jan 2014, 17:42:39 UTC - in response to Message 1460903.  

Julie, a suggestion; read "The dragons of Eden", by Carl Sagan, then "The emperor's new mind", by Roger Penrose and, if you are brave, "Shadows of the mind", also by Penrose.
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Message 1460933 - Posted: 5 Jan 2014, 17:59:59 UTC

The dragons of Eden I read before. Thanx Tullio:)
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Message 1461855 - Posted: 8 Jan 2014, 16:57:39 UTC

There will be a Citizen Cyberscience Summit in London on February 20-22. I found it on the Test4Theory@home home page and my CERN friends will be among the speakers. But I found nobody from SETI@home. Maybe some British users could attend. It is being hosted by the Royal Geographical Society and the London University.
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Message 1467773 - Posted: 23 Jan 2014, 17:25:06 UTC

CERN experiment produces first beam of antihydrogen atoms for hyperfine study


The spectra of hydrogen and antihydrogen are predicted to be identical, so any tiny difference between them would immediately open a window to new physics, and could help in solving the antimatter mystery. With its single proton accompanied by just one electron, hydrogen is the simplest existing atom, and one of the most precisely investigated and best understood systems in modern physics. Thus comparisons of hydrogen and antihydrogen atoms constitute one of the best ways to perform highly precise tests of matter/antimatter symmetry.


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Message 1474993 - Posted: 10 Feb 2014, 1:54:49 UTC - in response to Message 1467773.  
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LONDON — Exotic particles never before detected and possibly teensy extra dimensions may be awaiting discovery, says a physicist, adding that those searching for such newbies should keep an open mind and consider all possibilities.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/08/exotic-particles-dimensions-physicist_n_4747099.html

Exotic Particles & Extra Dimensions May Await Discovery, Physicist Says


yep, and Cern will find them.
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Message 1475059 - Posted: 10 Feb 2014, 5:41:49 UTC

I've read that CERN is planning a 100 km track accelerator at Geneva. That is the standard reaction of the physicists to a bunch of problems. Let's build a bigger accelerator.
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Message 1475209 - Posted: 10 Feb 2014, 14:16:41 UTC

Hey, that is a bit curmudgeonly isn't it?
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Message 1475359 - Posted: 10 Feb 2014, 19:50:11 UTC

That's what I mean by saying we should be careful with all this
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Message 1475650 - Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 10:52:49 UTC

More, more, bigger, bigger.....until it hits them...
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Message 1475705 - Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 13:58:38 UTC - in response to Message 1475650.  

There is a book by two Italian physicists, La spirale delle alte energie, by Angelo Baracca and Silvio Bergia, Bompiani, 1975, which foresees all this. But it has never been translated, as far as I know.
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Message 1475711 - Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 14:25:36 UTC
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The spiral of high energies: political and logical aspects of the development of elementary particle physics.

Energy spiral

What these faster and faster accelerators are trying to do is to re-create the very first moments of the creation of the universe (or at least our bit of it) so we can understand more of what it is all about. Yes of course they will build faster, bigger, and better, that is what mankind does. Whether it is motor cars or skyscrapers. I don't think that we will ever get a definitive answer, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't try, and enjoy the ride along the way.
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Message 1475717 - Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 18:17:56 UTC

We should just be careful with nature, attacking it with our bigger and better. No problem if we do that with technology, that's evolution. But here we stir in the gist of everything that exists, it has an equilibrium that we're not ready to explore yet and certainly not to experiment with it. We are at the childhood of our existence, we should act like it as well and give it time.
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Message 1475737 - Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 19:01:34 UTC - in response to Message 1475059.  

I've read that CERN is planning a 100 km track accelerator at Geneva. That is the standard reaction of the physicists to a bunch of problems. Let's build a bigger accelerator.


And as much as I love physics, it's annoying that they will get billions for this to find arcane particles that the vast majority of taxpayers footing the bill couldn't care less about, yet the question "are there other intelligences in the universe" which potentially could be of far more interest to humanity and runs on a shoestring budget compared to what particle accelerators cost these days can't get a dime of public support.
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Message 1475738 - Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 19:05:32 UTC - in response to Message 1475737.  

I've read that CERN is planning a 100 km track accelerator at Geneva. That is the standard reaction of the physicists to a bunch of problems. Let's build a bigger accelerator.


And as much as I love physics, it's annoying that they will get billions for this to find arcane particles that the vast majority of taxpayers footing the bill couldn't care less about, yet the question "are there other intelligences in the universe" which potentially could be of far more interest to humanity and runs on a shoestring budget compared to what particle accelerators cost these days can't get a dime of public support.


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Message 1476057 - Posted: 12 Feb 2014, 9:17:33 UTC - in response to Message 1475738.  
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Maybe we should insert the term "nuclear" in our name. CERN stands for Conseil Europeen de Recherches Nucleaires, even if it does very little nuclear physics now. When the Governments read the term "nuclear" they think of atomic bombs and are ready to shell out money. But Edoardo Amaldi insisted that CERN and ESA should not do any military research.
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