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Message 1429581 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 6:09:12 UTC

I am transitioning from an XP computer to a (newer) Windows 7 computer. I have started running BOINC on my new computer while I move stuff over. But when I leave the computer and (for example) go to bed, it eventually shuts down (or goes into hibernation or something). In any case it stops running BOINC and the tasks which BOINC has.

I have an administrative account and a non-privileged user account, which I use for day to day activities. The admin account is only for Windows Update and installing / uninstalling programs.

I already discovered, to my dismay, that logging out of the admin account stops BOINC, but in addition, the computer shuts down when it is unattended, even though I leave the admin account logged in.

My intent is to have BOINC run all the time but it's not. What can I do? I don't have this problem on my Ubuntu computer.

I'm not so good at searching and "shut down" and "hibernate" failed to elucidate this problem.

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Message 1429603 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 7:12:59 UTC

start > run > powercfg.CPL

Hyperlink on the left "Change when the computer sleeps". Click it, change it to 'never'. Same for hibernate.
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Message 1429605 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 7:48:29 UTC - in response to Message 1429581.

I already discovered, to my dismay, that logging out of the admin account stops BOINC...

Since you are not using a GPGPU for computing, you could install BOINC as a service (FKA Protected Application Execution). Then BOINC would even run when nobody is logged in. However, you'd still have to prevent windows from hibernating (energy saving settings?).

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Message 1429678 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 13:44:25 UTC - in response to Message 1429581.
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Firstly you need to make a User Account that has Administrator Privileges. Because if you ever get locked out of your Existing Administrator Account or is something goes wrong with it, and you have need to reset That Administrator Password, You'll Be Stu**ed.
Secondly, it is obviously not a BOINC Error. So, for starters, you need to check your Power Saving Settings on Both User Accounts. If BOINC was Set Up on The Administrator Account, and you are Running It on your Other User Account, that may not have the Same Settings, it may be causing your Problem. Also, if both User Accounts are Open, the Opposite Accounts Settings could be putting it into Hibernation or Sleep. Make sure that Both Accounts Settings are Set To NEVER in The Power Saving Properties, for Hibernation and Sleep.
Thirdly, it could be that your BOINC Settings are Set to only Operate between Certain hours, and Your Computer is Set to Hibernate or Sleep after a Non-Active Period.
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Message 1429679 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 13:47:02 UTC - in response to Message 1429605.

I already discovered, to my dismay, that logging out of the admin account stops BOINC...

Since you are not using a GPGPU for computing, you could install BOINC as a service (FKA Protected Application Execution). Then BOINC would even run when nobody is logged in. However, you'd still have to prevent windows from hibernating (energy saving settings?).

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(See My Reply above regarding Power Saving Settings)
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Message 1429752 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 16:54:48 UTC - in response to Message 1429603.

OK. I've done the powercfg.CPL thing. And I'll see how it does today.

OTOH, since I'm on Win 7, I don't see Start > Run, so I used Start > All Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt instead.

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Message 1429755 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 16:58:26 UTC

Alternatively, you could just press the windows key and the letter 'R' and it loads the run box :)
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Message 1429756 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 16:59:08 UTC - in response to Message 1429678.

So you're saying I should have two administrative accounts, in addition to a non-administrative user account for daily use?

I've changed the power settings via powercfg.CPL and I'll see how that goes.

I've told BOINC to run all the time. Later on, I may have it pause in the time frame when I run an anti-virus scan.

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Message 1429762 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 17:04:47 UTC - in response to Message 1429605.

I already discovered, to my dismay, that logging out of the admin account stops BOINC...

Since you are not using a GPGPU for computing, you could install BOINC as a service (FKA Protected Application Execution). Then BOINC would even run when nobody is logged in. However, you'd still have to prevent windows from hibernating (energy saving settings?).

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I now see that my replies are unspecific, so I'll quote for clarity.

Yes, I'd like to run BOINC as a service. Would I have to re-install it to do so?
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Message 1429764 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 17:06:16 UTC - in response to Message 1429755.

Alternatively, you could just press the windows key and the letter 'R' and it loads the run box :)


While that works in XP, it doesn't in 7. But I did it all right another way.

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Message 1429767 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 17:13:47 UTC - in response to Message 1429752.

OK. I've done the powercfg.CPL thing. And I'll see how it does today.

OTOH, since I'm on Win 7, I don't see Start > Run, so I used Start > All Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt instead.

Thanks,

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You really need to learn how Win7 works.
It's not exactly the same as WinXP.

Click on Start, just above appears a search window,
type Run and a bunch of results will appear.

Second down on mine is the Run command. click on that and the
Run app starts.

You can also get the Run app to appear on the start menu.
When you learn to setup your desktop to look the way you want it.

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Message 1429805 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 18:56:20 UTC - in response to Message 1429762.

Yes, I'd like to run BOINC as a service. Would I have to re-install it to do so?

Yes, but that's a pretty simple affair. You just have to stop the BOINC client and then uninstall BOINC. That's a non-destructive process, so the data is not touched. Install again in service mode and after rebooting, BOINC should start where it's left off.

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Message 1429809 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 19:19:13 UTC

You don't even need to use WIN+R or find the Run dialog box. The search feature built into Windows 7's Start menu allows launching of applications. If you press the Start button (or press the Windows key on your keyboard) and just type in devmgmt.msc (for example), and press enter, it will launch the Device Manager (in this case).

And for any apps you need to run in an elevated context, after you type in the name of the program, make sure the correct program is highlighted, then press CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER. For example, pressing Start and typing Internet Explorer, then pressing CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER will launch Internet Explorer in an elevated context.

The Run box has become obsolete thanks to the new search feature.

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Message 1429850 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 20:29:51 UTC

I always put Run back into my Start menus via the Taskbar and Start Menu Properties myself.

The Power Options are also available via the Control Panel under System and Security too.

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Message 1431287 - Posted: 21 Oct 2013, 1:14:36 UTC - in response to Message 1429767.

You really need to learn how Win7 works.
It's not exactly the same as WinXP.

Click on Start, just above appears a search window,
type Run and a bunch of results will appear.

Second down on mine is the Run command. click on that and the
Run app starts.

You can also get the Run app to appear on the start menu.
When you learn to setup your desktop to look the way you want it.


Thanks, that worked fine.

I quite agree. I'm just now replacing an aging XP box with a refurb 7 Pro box (which was XP before the refurb). But it's a lot better than my XP box anyway.

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Message 1431290 - Posted: 21 Oct 2013, 1:16:59 UTC - in response to Message 1429805.

Yes, I'd like to run BOINC as a service. Would I have to re-install it to do so?

Yes, but that's a pretty simple affair. You just have to stop the BOINC client and then uninstall BOINC. That's a non-destructive process, so the data is not touched. Install again in service mode and after rebooting, BOINC should start where it's left off.

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Thanks. I'dd do that this week, since I can't seem to keep it from sort of shutting down.

Ross

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Message 1431292 - Posted: 21 Oct 2013, 1:20:16 UTC - in response to Message 1429850.

I always put Run back into my Start menus via the Taskbar and Start Menu Properties myself.

The Power Options are also available via the Control Panel under System and Security too.

Cheers.


I've currently got Never turn off the display and Never put the computer to sleep. I changed the display to Never just now and I'll see how it works.

Thanks,

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Message 1431296 - Posted: 21 Oct 2013, 2:14:12 UTC - in response to Message 1431292.

You can't let the hard drive from powering down
or going to sleep either. If it takes too long to
get up to speed when Boinc/Seti needs to access it,
it will cause an error.

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