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Message 1430104 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 8:05:14 UTC

Thank you Michael. I am only a guest here, so I can't vote. I could always go home, but then again, I never voted there either.
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Message 1430111 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 8:17:02 UTC - in response to Message 1430104.  

Thank you Michael. I am only a guest here, so I can't vote. I could always go home, but then again, I never voted there either.
Hate me for it, but I sleep better at night.
The last nightmare I had, was when I was 6.


The war on drugs in America is actually big business. They've demonized weed to the point where tens of billions of dollars is used to prop up the anti-weed industry. Entire ecosystems feeding off each other creating this huge waste.


Think about it..in America local police agencies get huge funds to help combat the weed "problem"...more equipment is purchased (manufacturers dream), more people are hired, privatized prisons get paid...the list goes on and on. I could sit here for an hour typing that out...

If you stopped fighting weed, billions would be pulled out of the economy, people would lose jobs, prisons would close..the horror.

It's all about the almighty $$...and has absofrigging nothing to do with saving lives. Keeping weed illegal is a booming business. Keeping people scared to death of it helps raise money, help politicians get elected.

It's all about the money...and nothing else.

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Message 1430115 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 8:22:32 UTC - in response to Message 1430111.  

Thank you Michael. I am only a guest here, so I can't vote. I could always go home, but then again, I never voted there either.
Hate me for it, but I sleep better at night.
The last nightmare I had, was when I was 6.


The war on drugs in America is actually big business. They've demonized weed to the point where tens of billions of dollars is used to prop up the anti-weed industry. Entire ecosystems feeding off each other creating this huge waste.


Think about it..in America local police agencies get huge funds to help combat the weed "problem"...more equipment is purchased (manufacturers dream), more people are hired, privatized prisons get paid...the list goes on and on. I could sit here for an hour typing that out...

If you stopped fighting weed, billions would be pulled out of the economy, people would lose jobs, prisons would close..the horror.

It's all about the almighty $$...and has absofrigging nothing to do with saving lives. Keeping weed illegal is a booming business. Keeping people scared to death of it helps raise money, help politicians get elected.

It's all about the money...and nothing else.

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Michael, It's obvious we don't disagree on everything. The drug cartels and law enforcement form an evil symbiosis.

Neither side wants legalisation as they both have too much to lose.

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Message 1430116 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 8:25:38 UTC - in response to Message 1430115.  

Thank you Michael. I am only a guest here, so I can't vote. I could always go home, but then again, I never voted there either.
Hate me for it, but I sleep better at night.
The last nightmare I had, was when I was 6.


The war on drugs in America is actually big business. They've demonized weed to the point where tens of billions of dollars is used to prop up the anti-weed industry. Entire ecosystems feeding off each other creating this huge waste.


Think about it..in America local police agencies get huge funds to help combat the weed "problem"...more equipment is purchased (manufacturers dream), more people are hired, privatized prisons get paid...the list goes on and on. I could sit here for an hour typing that out...

If you stopped fighting weed, billions would be pulled out of the economy, people would lose jobs, prisons would close..the horror.

It's all about the almighty $$...and has absofrigging nothing to do with saving lives. Keeping weed illegal is a booming business. Keeping people scared to death of it helps raise money, help politicians get elected.

It's all about the money...and nothing else.

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Michael, It's obvious we don't disagree on everything. The drug cartels and law enforcement form an evil symbiosis.

Neither side wants legalisation as they both have too much to lose.

T.A.


Agree, perhaps an oversight of mine, I forgot to include the drug dealers. They would lose money as well...the only reason they make tons of money is because their product is illegal..if you make it legal and tax it, the drug dealers profit margin goes away.

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Message 1430119 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 8:39:12 UTC

Yes Michael. I think Chris is a bit jaded.

I still love him tho.
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Message 1430129 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 9:11:11 UTC - in response to Message 1429890.  

Drugs are drugs are drugs, whether they are soft or hard, or classed as recreational.



Much like the drug Alcohol.it


Which is another separate problem. Alcohol is not addictive to everyone. It is hard to tell drunks from alcoholics but I have read estimates in the 10-12% range of addiction.

I can also suggest that the serious problem is with distilled alcohol having read some descriptions of "gin alley" when it first became popular and allowing for puritanical descriptions. From this all I suggest is that the addiction gene has been in the process of being eliminated by the Darwin Awards longer than for any other population group. So yes, it might have really been true you can't give firewater to Indians for the same reason it should not have been given to Elizabethan Englishmen. If this is correct then it also explains why Aussies don't give it to Abos either. (I really do know better than saying it that way. Just like to bang the cages of the politically correct.)

To modernize it Meth is a much more popular drug in white middle class and upper class America than in the minority areas where the arrests are made. I am not going to suggest the addiction rate is any different rather simply that if it were addictive to everyone then the white middle and upper class would have disappeared a decade ago.

IF it is addictive THEN only to a fraction of the population. At what fraction does it make sense to prohibit a substance? 90% sounds like a no brainer. But how about 20%? But then if that 20% is going to use it anyway if not this generation then the next or the next, if twer done tis best twer done quickly. Get the addiction gene out of the pool as quickly as possible. Prohibition merely prolongs the pain.

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Message 1430133 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 9:19:37 UTC - in response to Message 1429934.  

I certainly am. It'll make it much safer. If one can legally buy the stuff from a registered seller, rather than from some street corner which could be mixed with who knows what.
Same goes for all natural substances. Cocaine for example. Read a study published in the Lancet a couple of years ago, which found that the average quantity of actual cocaine in street level 'cocaine' was eight percent. That other ninety two percent comprised a whole range of devious chemicals, from the relatively innocuous ones like flour, up to rather more harmful like Draino.
Legalise the sale of the pure stuff, and the harm caused by the adulterants will be removed straight away, simple.


I cannot date what I read but the cost of medical grade was at the time seven dollars a gram.

The good news is the more dealers the purer the cocaine. Successful drug importers are doing what the FDA should be doing.

More successful drug interdiction will just degrade the product with dangerous substances.

At some time you have to conclude the government really does know what it is doing and why. Stop complaining about government stupidity and just as it was during prohibition look for how they are personally profiting from keeping drugs illegal.
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Message 1430140 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 9:29:35 UTC - in response to Message 1430109.  

I know Es's views on pot and she will remember the local police commander in South London who went soft on it amidst a lot of condemnation. His view was it allowed his officers to concentrate on harder drugs. This 10 years old but has some good points.

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It's very strange that cannabis should be illegal, yet alcohol is freely sold. Roaming the streets of a friday night demolishing bus stops and throwing punches at every passing lifeform, that's fine, but sitting in a huddle in a student bedsit giggling at reruns of the magic roundabout (i expect...), that's a danger to society and must be stamped out!
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Message 1430145 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 9:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 1430144.  

We all do what? Roam the streets at night? Thought you were an early to bed early to rise lark? Bit late last night weren't you?
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Message 1430146 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 10:07:35 UTC

From the looks of this, Marijuana may indeed be the safest drug.....

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Message 1430171 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 11:11:34 UTC - in response to Message 1430165.  

We all do what? Roam the streets at night?

Read the post again please. Alcohol was linked to streets, Pot was linked to students.

Bit late last night weren't you?

Quite why my bedtime hour should be of any interest to you, is quite inexplicable. It varies whether or not we have friends over for dinner, if you must know.


Ah the chicken finally came home to roost! I can recall many times on these boards where you requested my links with Canada.....

..Quite inexplicable don't you think?
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Message 1430174 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 11:17:32 UTC - in response to Message 1430173.  
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I can recall many times on these boards where you requested my links with Canada.....

Don't exaggerate. I mentioned it once, and you refused to answer which was your prerogative. Your chickens flew the coop a long time ago.


Go back and read your posts. exaggeration or not, you did ask did you not and continued to pursue it. Very inexplicable!
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Message 1430175 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 11:18:59 UTC - in response to Message 1430171.  
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Quite why my bedtime hour should be of any interest to you, is quite inexplicable. It varies whether or not we have friends over for dinner, if you must know.


Ah the chicken finally came home to roost! I can recall many times on these boards where you requested my links with Canada.....

..Quite inexplicable don't you think?

Am i the only one missing the link here?
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Message 1430177 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 11:20:27 UTC - in response to Message 1430175.  

Quite why my bedtime hour should be of any interest to you, is quite inexplicable. It varies whether or not we have friends over for dinner, if you must know.


Ah the chicken finally came home to roost! I can recall many times on these boards where you requested my links with Canada.....

..Quite inexplicable don't you think?

Am i the only one missing the link here?


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Message 1430394 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 18:08:30 UTC

Perhaps the pair of you should go have a joint and calm down?
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Message 1430444 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 20:50:37 UTC - in response to Message 1430251.  

Am i the only one missing the link here?

Not really Simon! RAC just 15, blue collar shirt in the wash, no lorry driving to do, wrong time of the month, we've seen it all before ....


Suggest you visit your opticians. My RAC is quite nice actually crunching other projects. I note that you have a very high TC, is that all done on S@H only?

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