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Message 1429430 - Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 22:43:24 UTC - in response to Message 1429367.  
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I'm in great danger of agreeing with you.

Edit, well that disappeared quickly!
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Message 1429435 - Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 22:49:57 UTC

We should start a pool.
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Message 1429455 - Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 23:10:49 UTC - in response to Message 1429435.  

We should start a pool.


I'm in :)
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Message 1429459 - Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 23:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 1429435.  
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We should start a pool.

Is this pool a bet on whether the OP gets banned?
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Message 1429463 - Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 23:48:01 UTC - in response to Message 1429367.  

I would argue for a separate classification for some drugs. These are the ones that are clearly desirable in small quantities but not necessarily desirable in larger quantities. None of this is an argument for prohibition.

That the receptors are common does not mean the substance is physically a good thing.

Alcohol in small quantities of roughly one drink per hour depending on body weight is a stimulant and mood elevator. It is only at higher rates it becomes a depressant and elevates to much. Not to say feeling great is a bad thing but one should do it carefully and sparingly. If what you want is to unwind you know to start with a quick double.

Similarly amphetamines. The US Navy fought WWII on amphetamines. The US Air Force fought both Iraq wars on amphetamines and valium. There are other examples like college degrees but that kind of usage does not get into the negative effect range.

Nicotine improves concentration and controls insulin production (minimizes hunger) and only in far beyond smokeable quantities is it a poison. This is not talking about burning byproducts in smoke. Try ecigarettes for the nicotine effect without burning. No, there are no cancer studies of nicotine alone without burning. However smoking marijuana has the same risks.

Some of the active components of marijuana appear to be in the initially desirable category. Problem is there appears no plateau, no good until its bad level. Sort of like alcohol being a depressant from the beginning. No one knows just what the "right amount" might be nor how to administer it or even if there is a right amount.

It is a bit like a small amount of Vicodin is no different from a couple aspirins. Some marijuana gives some degree of the desired effect.

So we have desirable to undesirable transition with quantity in some and desirable until overused and desirable by concomitant by products come with the desirable or are produced by the consumption method.
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Message 1429469 - Posted: 16 Oct 2013, 23:56:11 UTC

OK I get it.
Robert meant to say "We should start a Poll".

I'm in.

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Message 1429801 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 18:29:41 UTC

Washington state approves rules for marijuana industry

ROAD TRIIIIP!!!
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Message 1429803 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 18:33:27 UTC - in response to Message 1429801.  

Washington state approves rules for marijuana industry

ROAD TRIIIIP!!!


In that case, Death Race 2000 springs to mind. I'll stick to driving trucks, much safer....

....how many points do I get for wiping out a beamer?
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Message 1429812 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 19:28:34 UTC - in response to Message 1429801.  

Washington state approves rules for marijuana industry

ROAD TRIIIIP!!!

I'm disappointed in the rules that both states have introduced. There should have been provision for a Homegrower's licence with a restriction on the number of plants, limit on the amount kept in the home and a prohibition on selling the produce etc.

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Message 1429824 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 19:48:17 UTC - in response to Message 1429812.  

Washington state approves rules for marijuana industry

ROAD TRIIIIP!!!

I'm disappointed in the rules that both states have introduced. There should have been provision for a Homegrower's licence with a restriction on the number of plants, limit on the amount kept in the home and a prohibition on selling the produce etc.

T.A.

That is the way the medical marijuana is treated in Washington state.
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Message 1429862 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 20:50:15 UTC - in response to Message 1429812.  

Washington state approves rules for marijuana industry

ROAD TRIIIIP!!!

I'm disappointed in the rules that both states have introduced. There should have been provision for a Homegrower's licence with a restriction on the number of plants, limit on the amount kept in the home and a prohibition on selling the produce etc.

T.A.

Just a little of the USDA rules for farms ...

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Message 1429890 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 21:29:54 UTC - in response to Message 1429883.  

Drugs are drugs are drugs, whether they are soft or hard, or classed as recreational.



Much like the drug Alcohol.

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Message 1429896 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 21:33:46 UTC - in response to Message 1429892.  

Very much so, alcohol is also an addictive drug.


Alcohol kills more people in one year than smoking weed does in 10...yet you don't see anyone doing anything about it...why you ask? REVENUE

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Message 1429934 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 23:00:10 UTC

I certainly am. It'll make it much safer. If one can legally buy the stuff from a registered seller, rather than from some street corner which could be mixed with who knows what.
Same goes for all natural substances. Cocaine for example. Read a study published in the Lancet a couple of years ago, which found that the average quantity of actual cocaine in street level 'cocaine' was eight percent. That other ninety two percent comprised a whole range of devious chemicals, from the relatively innocuous ones like flour, up to rather more harmful like Draino.
Legalise the sale of the pure stuff, and the harm caused by the adulterants will be removed straight away, simple.
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Message 1429936 - Posted: 17 Oct 2013, 23:09:35 UTC - in response to Message 1429883.  

Drugs are drugs are drugs, whether they are soft or hard, or classed as recreational.


And how many do you have in your medicine cabinet? Diazepam? Paracetamol? Ibuprofen? All synthetic chemicals, and far more 'unnatural' than the tetrahydrocannabinols found in cannabis.

We humans are essentially bags of chemicals that survive by finding other chemicals and ingesting them. Barring the acute poisons like strychnine and cyanide, drawing arbitrary lines between legal and illegal is an artificial human construct.
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Message 1430052 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 5:06:16 UTC - in response to Message 1429936.  

Drugs are drugs are drugs, whether they are soft or hard, or classed as recreational.


And how many do you have in your medicine cabinet? Diazepam? Paracetamol? Ibuprofen? All synthetic chemicals, and far more 'unnatural' than the tetrahydrocannabinols found in cannabis.

We humans are essentially bags of chemicals that survive by finding other chemicals and ingesting them. Barring the acute poisons like strychnine and cyanide, drawing arbitrary lines between legal and illegal is an artificial human construct.

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Message 1430068 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 6:10:26 UTC - in response to Message 1429824.  

Washington state approves rules for marijuana industry

ROAD TRIIIIP!!!

I'm disappointed in the rules that both states have introduced. There should have been provision for a Homegrower's licence with a restriction on the number of plants, limit on the amount kept in the home and a prohibition on selling the produce etc.

T.A.

That is the way the medical marijuana is treated in Washington state.

You can get medical marijuana here in BC. Some of the best marijuana in the world is grown here.

I am hoping my son gets a license to help him with his PTSD. It is the only thing that works and is far safer than anything else the doctor could prescribe.

It is absolutely ludicrous that marijuana is illegal. It is far safer than most prescribed drugs, safer than aspirin even. Certainly safer than legal drugs such as alcohol and tobacco.
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Message 1430084 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 7:32:22 UTC

When my Ex moved me into our first apartment, the plant of choice was Pot in the planter boxes. We didn't live there long enough to know what happened.
Then he bought a mirror for the house I still live in.... at a sale at our local College.
God made Grass, Man made Booze.
Can't say I never inhaled. I don't need or crave it, but it should be available for those who do.
The USA government just need to get with it. Would save to ton of $ in prison costs.
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Message 1430089 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 7:38:16 UTC

For Washington 'Medical Marijuana' under Initiative Measure No. 692 was approved back on November 3, 1998. Medical is in place and has been working quite well for some time now. You can have up to 25 ounces and 15 plants.

Then this year 2013 Washingtonians voted for 'Recreational Marijuana' to start selling in 2014. The recreational side has not been mapped out yet so it is a crap shoot so far. You can have 5 grams.

They are two separate things here. It will be interesting as it plays out. Hopefully they do not screw it up. The big thing is feds have to let banks do the business banking. It is an all cash system now.






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Message 1430099 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 7:53:19 UTC - in response to Message 1430084.  

When my Ex moved me into our first apartment, the plant of choice was Pot in the planter boxes. We didn't live there long enough to know what happened.
Then he bought a mirror for the house I still live in.... at a sale at our local College.
God made Grass, Man made Booze.
Can't say I never inhaled. I don't need or crave it, but it should be available for those who do.
The USA government just need to get with it. Would save to ton of $ in prison costs.


I agree that the War on Weed is flat out stupid.

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