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petri33 Send message Joined: 6 Jun 02 Posts: 1668 Credit: 623,086,772 RAC: 156 |
Nice. Seti on star (stellar) energy. To overcome Heisenbergs: "You can't always get what you want / but if you try sometimes you just might find / you get what you need." -- Rolling Stones |
Lee Gresham Send message Joined: 12 Aug 03 Posts: 159 Credit: 130,116,228 RAC: 0 |
Those with multiple crunchers in a given area should include the cost of cooling in their estimates. In my case it makes a big difference. During summer months my total power bill with 4 crunchers running 100% 24/7 is between $350 & $400/month. Delta-V |
_ Send message Joined: 15 Nov 12 Posts: 299 Credit: 9,037,618 RAC: 0 |
I have heard some users say that they have given up using their CPU's for crunching, and exclusively use their GPUs because it is more efficient use of electricity per credit rewarded. I haven't seen anyone in this thread mention that. Is it true that a CPU sitting relatively idle uses less electricity than a CPU that is crunching 24/7? I have recently switched to this methodology myself to see how it goes. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
I have heard some users say that they have given up using their CPU's for crunching, and exclusively use their GPUs because it is more efficient use of electricity per credit rewarded. If a project has GPU applications available for use (as SETI does), I tend to run only those GPU apps - I don't use CPUs on the same project. But there are plenty of other projects out there that can't make use of a GPU, so that's where my CPUs hang out and help. |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34257 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Is it true that a CPU sitting relatively idle uses less electricity than a CPU that is crunching 24/7? Sorry Richard this doesn`t answer the question. Yes, of course a idle CPU uses less electricity than a fully utilized CPU. How much depends on the type of course. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Try using a |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
Try using a Ahh...... My good friend the Killawatt. I have recommended it's use many times on the forums when folks had questions about just how much power this and that would add or subtract from a rig's performance, and what it would cost to implement them. I have a half a dozen of them. And they can tell me what a rig might be doing at any time. I have an approximation of what amount of power any particular rig should be drawing at any given time, and if I see a deviation from that, I can reboot or pull cards and retool as needed. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34257 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Try using a Of course i did Richard. On my FX 8150 overclocked to 4.4 GHZ the difference is approx 80 Watts per hour. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
My 2500K rig at full load pulls 315w at the power point (includes UPS and monitor) while my 3570K rig pulls 360w (includes UPS and 2 monitors). I'll let others work out the maths though. Cheers. |
Jeff Buck Send message Joined: 11 Feb 00 Posts: 1441 Credit: 148,764,870 RAC: 0 |
Awhile back I ran some numbers on one of my machines, an HP xw9400 w/ 2 AMD Quad Core Opteron 2389s (8 processors) at 2.90 GHz. At idle it uses 180w. With S@H running 100% on all 8 cores, that jumps to 310w, then goes up to 425w with the GT 660 at full tilt. Bringing in a GT 650 raised consumption to 475w and, finally (for now) adding a GT 640 to the mix brought it up to about 510w. Clearly, the CPUs are less efficient than the GPUs but, what the heck, they're there and I figure I might as well use them. The 3 GPUs are going to draw on them to some extent, anyway, though I've never tried running S@H on just the GPUs with the CPU processing suspended, so I don't know what the power consumption would be in that configuration. Perhaps I'll try it sometime. |
kittyman Send message Joined: 9 Jul 00 Posts: 51468 Credit: 1,018,363,574 RAC: 1,004 |
My top rig draws about 600 watts from the mains. Because it is cooled by a refrigeration compressor cooling the CPU to some minus 30 degrees below C, there is also that headroom. So, it probably uses around 1000w. "Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
I use all 4 CPU cores on both my rigs, but if I didn't that would drop my rigs' RAC's by approximately 10K per day, in my books is worth the cost of using the CPU's IMO (older and less efficient CPU's would be another story). Cheers. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
On my FX 8150 overclocked to 4.4 GHZ the difference is approx 80 Watts per hour. Watts per hour? (W/h) ;) Will you rephrase that? (there is no such unit) Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
On my FX 8150 overclocked to 4.4 GHZ the difference is approx 80 Watts per hour. Sounds like an acceleration to me. Watch out for meltdown... |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34257 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
My mistake, sorry. It was late while i posted it. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
To pre-answer somebody's question: During winter these additional Watts are not wasted - this energy just turns to heat and warms the room. Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
_ Send message Joined: 15 Nov 12 Posts: 299 Credit: 9,037,618 RAC: 0 |
Is it true that a CPU sitting relatively idle uses less electricity than a CPU that is crunching 24/7? Thanks for this answer. My RAC has suffered of course but I feel this is a nice way to balance my desire to crunch and my electric bill. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Well, I was thinking about upping my RAC and after a bit of shopping, looks like I can put together a power cruncher for a little over $3,500. Actually that rig of Morten's has 1 Titan and a GTX690 and that RAC is rather low for that sort of setup, but that maybe due to it not have anymore work to do (all tasks have been completed and no new tasks have been acquired). I average 38K from my 3570K with dual GTX660's. Cheers. |
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