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Message 1421180 - Posted: 27 Sep 2013, 22:13:11 UTC

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/27/nj-judge-rules-state-must-allow-gays-to-marry/

NJ judge rules state must allow gay couples to marry

TRENTON, N.J. – New Jersey is unconstitutionally denying federal benefits to same-sex couples and must allow gay couples to marry starting Oct. 21, a judge ruled Friday.

Superior Court Judge Mary Jacobson sided almost entirely with a group of same-sex couples and gay rights groups who sued the state in July, days after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down key parts of a law that blocked the federal government from granting benefits to gay couples.

New Jersey allows same-sex couples to enter into civil unions that give them some of the same legal protections as married couples, but Jacobson said the two labels -- marriage for opposite-sex couples and civil unions for same-sex couples -- means gay couples are excluded "from certain federal benefits that legally married same-sex couples are able to enjoy."


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Message 1430478 - Posted: 18 Oct 2013, 22:45:14 UTC

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/10/18/gay-marriage-nj/3009611/

TRENTON -- Gay couples in New Jersey will be able to marry starting Monday.

The state Supreme Court Friday turned down Republican Gov. Chris Christie's administration request to delay same-sex marriages, clearing the way for the weddings to begin Oct. 21.

A lower-court judge had earlier ruled that same-sex weddings must be allowed starting Monday, and the administration requested a stay.

The Christie administration has also appealed a lower court decision that the state should allow same-sex marriages, and the high court is expected to hear arguments and render a decision on the broader issue over the next three months.

The ruling by the justices against the motion was unanimous, a sign that the administration's prospects for the full appeal are bleak.

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Message 1430654 - Posted: 19 Oct 2013, 6:27:39 UTC

Gary is there there a reason you need to start a new thread for every State?
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Message 1430729 - Posted: 19 Oct 2013, 10:33:32 UTC

Actually I can't see any reason myself why it should be against the law for same sex people to get married anywhere in the world.

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Message 1430801 - Posted: 19 Oct 2013, 15:45:18 UTC - in response to Message 1430654.

Gary is there there a reason you need to start a new thread for every State?

Legally they are separate issues as they are being decided on each state's law, not federal, which means that the same "fact" can mean the opposite thing. Also by keeping them focused on the case law and state law they don't become emotion charged and the mods have to hide them when, not if, a flame war breaks out.

If you want a general discussion on the merits, start a thread, but I doubt it will last more than a few hours after some vacations are over.

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