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Message 1406383 - Posted: 22 Aug 2013, 10:34:40 UTC

Lawyers seek judicial review

Interesting comment made though.....

"But former Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer said this was not what the powers were meant for."
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Message 1406386 - Posted: 22 Aug 2013, 10:42:14 UTC
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Mr Miranda's lawyers said he had nine items, including his laptop, mobile phone and DVDs, seized during the detention.

Law firm Bindmans said it had started legal proceedings to "protect the confidentiality of the sensitive journalistic material".

It said the judicial review application aimed to secure a temporary restriction to stop the authorities using the material.

I wonder what material that is then, something prejudicial to the Guardian
newspaper by any chance?
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Message 1406395 - Posted: 22 Aug 2013, 11:02:14 UTC - in response to Message 1406383.  

Lawyers seek judicial review

Interesting comment made though.....

"But former Lord Chancellor Lord Falconer said this was not what the powers were meant for."

But isn't that the problem with a lot of "Laws". Unless written so that they are absolutely watertight, and that is almost impossible, then the law is what the lawyers say it is, if they can get the other people who "understand" law, The Judges, to agree with them.

You only need to see the results of the Human Rights laws, and the US 2nd Amendment.
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Message 1406405 - Posted: 22 Aug 2013, 11:25:31 UTC - in response to Message 1406361.  

I see very little difference between upholding the law and enforcing the law. Unless you are unconsciously associating the letters "force" with guns or something. Smuggling of drugs is illegal, if detected and found by police officers, it is reported. Then a specialist agency like HMRC will take them to court. Perhaps that is what you meant?

My apologies for quoting the Mail today, but this bit is just mind boggling.

Bongo bongo land' UKIP politician now says employment law should be torn up to allow small firms to sack women workers who get pregnant, UKIP MEP Godfrey Bloom has suggested.

The Yorkshire and North Lincolnshire MEP said that owners of smaller businesses were too scared to hire women of childbearing age because of maternity and anti-discrimination laws. Mr Bloom called for the tearing up of 'draconian' employment legislation which burdened small employers by giving women the right to take maternity leave and expect their jobs back. He said there should be 'liberty of contract' which would see a woman replaced for a job if she had children.

Totally outrageous, I can just imagine what Es & Hev will have to say about that ..... And there's more

He predicted that feminism was a passing fashion, created by 'shrill, bored, middle class women of a certain physical genre'. The only male supporters of feminism were men 'who seem to have no link with the usual social and sporting male preserves, the slightly effete politically correct chaps who get sand kicked in their face on the beach'. The feminists of the 1970s were actually 'hostile to other women' and had done 'the sisterhood no favours'.

The former businessman said he was puzzled that women had produced so few great works in the arts despite having much more time on their hands in the 18th and 19th centuries. 'Most wives do not regard putting petrol in the car as any part of their responsibility. Men cannot see the point in making the bed if you are going to get back in it tonight.'

He also said he would be 'happy to punch the first man who tries to steal my beer'.

You couldn't make it up .... Hope he's made his will!

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Serves you right for reading the Daily Mail! :)

If we want freedom of speech in this country (which i hope we do) then we have to allow such people to speak their minds.
Listening to him is not the same as agreeing with him. As it happens i disagree with him on this subject, and i wouldn't vote for him in an election, but i wouldn't try to censor him.

People have many opinions on many different topics. No doubt there are many subjects you and i would disagree on, but at no point will i say you shouldn't be allowed to express your opinion, then i can express mine, and perhaps a lively debate would result.

Actions however are a different matter, if he were to manifestly discriminate against any women he may employ then he should be corrected and prevented from doing so.
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Message 1406416 - Posted: 22 Aug 2013, 12:31:55 UTC

can see they desperately need to raise some cash because they don't have a penny to their name. God, even the MRLP has more assets than they do!

Might be what the Employment law outburst is all about, trying to get small
business on their side and subsequent financial sponsoring from them...sort of
political lobbying but in reverse.


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Message 1407597 - Posted: 25 Aug 2013, 13:21:37 UTC

Still at it....

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Message 1408810 - Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 13:35:01 UTC

Will be interesting if she wins....

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Message 1408883 - Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 16:24:49 UTC - in response to Message 1408810.  

Will be interesting if she wins....

Court ruling on airport questioning

Haven't a clue to your legal systems.

In the US, such discrimination based on look alone appears to be fine, with no change from Dr. King's speech. Lip service is paid to non-discrimination which is why granny gets pulled out of queue on occasion to be strip searched.

The issue here is the stupidity of quick look criteria. Once the terrorists or smugglers or whatever bad man finds out what the criteria is, he won't fit it. You have to give everyone an enhanced look or accept the risk in not giving enhanced looks.

If you can't afford the people to look at everyone, then give and enhanced look at every fifth. Put an eyeball on the queue and see if anyone is trying to count to see if they are going to be number 5. That person gets a super enhanced special look.

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Message 1408928 - Posted: 28 Aug 2013, 18:22:24 UTC - in response to Message 1408919.  

The wife of a convicted terrorist has lost a major challenge against the British police's power to stop and question people at airports. Sylvie Beghal was held at East Midlands Airport under anti-terrorism laws. The High Court ruled that schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000 did not breach human rights.

It comes weeks after the partner of a Guardian journalist was stopped under the same power, prompting a legal battle with the government. In his judgement on Wednesday, Mr Justice Gross said the stops were "neither arbitrary nor disproportionate". Lawyers for Mrs Beghal are expected to appeal and try to take the case to the Supreme Court.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23870616
Mrs Beghal's husband is an Algerian man who was convicted and jailed in France on terrorism charges.


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Message 1409174 - Posted: 29 Aug 2013, 5:02:58 UTC - in response to Message 1406407.  

A very good post indeed, and I heartily agree with all the points you made.

Serves you right for reading the Daily Mail! :)

Yes, I know. I did buy the Mail once, but not any more, but they do have a good website. Actually I was looking for something else on the web and this came to my attention in passing. I had a chuckle as I imagined the steam rising in the air in Vancouver. I just couldn't resist posting it ;-)



Yes, you know how silly us women are about little things like the right to work and being respected as human beings.

No wonder you had a chuckle.
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