Netherlands? And you are going to tell us about the founding of the USA? LOL!

Most of the founders were Federalist, not all but most. Of them most were against slavery. Most were for the ladies voting.

1915: Women get the vote in Denmark and Iceland. ... 1919: Netherlands gives women the vote. 1919: Woman suffrage is granted in Belarus, Luxembourg and Ukraine.

I believe your country falls into the same box you're trying to place us in.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I think that if I.D. had been alive in 1775, because of his preference for keeping things as they were in the past, he would not have supported the Revolution.

I believe the word you are looking for is Tory.

I believe the both of you are baiting me. This had better stop, like right now.

That statement is not an argument, it sounds to me like a sign of defeat, and if we don't stop beating you, you ask the mods to step in and call an end to the contest, so that you can claim a draw.

That would be B-A-I-T-I-N-G, not beating. LOL, you haven't even came close to beating me. :-)

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

This thread is hilarious.
ID whining about how unfair life is,
and Guy yammering about how only he knows the intent of the founding fathers.
I can't even be bothered reading all of a Guy post since he suffers from verbal diarrhea.
The founding fathers were concise, but not very enlightened.
100 years to end slavery, 150 years to give women the vote.
One very bloody civil war.
They could have done much better.

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What is Intelligent Design?
It's God having One Brain Storm in a Million Brain Farts.

http://old.antislavery.org/breakingthesilence/slave_routes/slave_routes_netherlands.shtml

You should learn your own history before you T-R-Y to teach me mine. LOL! BAWahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I'm not from the Netherlands.
Nice try on changing the subject though.
I think you're a bit off the topic of "For the U.S. constitution.

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What is Intelligent Design?
It's God having One Brain Storm in a Million Brain Farts.

Our founders would never have allowed immigration without assimilation.

Mr. Burke, representing South Carolina:

There is another class also that I would interdict, that is, the convicts and criminals which they pour out of British jails. I wish sincerely some mode could be adopted to prevent the importation of such; but that, perhaps, is not in our power; the introduction of them ought to be considered as a high misdemeanor.

Here’s Connecticut’s Roger Sherman:

Now, the regulation provided for in this bill, entitles all free white persons, which includes emigrants, and even those who are likely to become chargeable. [In other words, a liability--See Dub] It certainly never would be undertaken by Congress to compel the States to receive and support this class of persons; it would therefore be necessary that some clause should be added to the bill to counteract such a general proposition.

Mr. Smith of South Carolina:

Now, if every emigrant who purchases a small lot, but for which perhaps he has not paid, becomes in a moment qualified to mingle in their parish or corporation politics, it is possible it may create great uneasiness in neighborhoods which have been long accustomed to live in peace and unity.

Here’s Georgia’s Mr. Jackson:

Shall stories be told of our citizenship, such as I have read in the Pennsylvania Magazine of the citizenship there? If my memory serves me right, the story runs, that at a contested election in Philadelphia, when parties ran very high, and no stone was left unturned, on either side, to carry the election, most of the ships in the harbor were cleared of their crews, who, ranged under the masters and owners, came before a Magistrate, took the oath of allegiance, and paid half a crown tax to the Collector, as the Constitution required, then went and voted, and decided the contest of the day. On the return of one of the vessels, whose crew had been employed in the affair of the election, they fell in with a shoal of porpoises off Cape Henlopen: “Ha!” said one of them, “what merry company have we got here! I wonder where they are going so cheerfully?” “Going,” replied one of his comrades, “why, going to Philadelphia, to be sure, to pay taxes, and vote for Assembly men!” I hope, Mr. Chairman, we have more respect for our situation as citizens, than to expose ourselves to the taunts and jeers of a deriding world, by making that situation too cheap.

Roger Sherman, again,

…presumed it was intended by the Convention, who framed the Constitution, that Congress should have the power of naturalization, in order to prevent particular States receiving citizens, and forcing them upon others who would not have received them in any other manner.

Roger Sherman, again,

…presumed it was intended by the Convention, who framed the Constitution, that Congress should have the power of naturalization, in order to prevent particular States receiving citizens, and forcing them upon others who would not have received them in any other manner.

Mr. Madison:

…It is no doubt very desirable that we should hold out as many inducements as possible for the worthy part of mankind to come and settle amongst us, and throw their fortunes into a common lot with ours. But why is this desirable? Not merely to swell the catalogue of people. No, sir, it is to increase the wealth and strength of the community; and those who acquire the rights of citizenship, without adding to the strength or wealth of the community are not the people we are in want of. And what is proposed by the amendment is, that they shall take nothing more than an oath of fidelity, and declare their intention to reside in the United States. Under such terms, it was well observed by my colleague, aliens might acquire the right of citizenship, and return to the country from which they came, and evade the laws intended to encourage the commerce and industry of the real citizens and inhabitants of America, enjoying at the same time all the advantages of citizens and aliens.

Mr. Smith, again,

…conceived a man ought to be some time in the country before he could pretend to exercise it. What could he know of the Government the moment he landed? Little or nothing: how then could he ascertain who was a proper person to legislate or judge of the laws? Certainly gentlemen would not pretend to bestow a privilege upon a man which he is incapable of using?

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I'm not from the Netherlands.
Nice try on changing the subject though.
I think you're a bit off the topic of "For the U.S. constitution.

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What is Intelligent Design?
It's God having One Brain Storm in a Million Brain Farts.

Really---note the flag to your left. You might understand my confusion....and your deception.

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Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...

I'm not from the Netherlands.
Nice try on changing the subject though.
I think you're a bit off the topic of "For the U.S. constitution.

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What is Intelligent Design?
It's God having One Brain Storm in a Million Brain Farts.

Really---note the flag to your left. You might understand my confusion....and your deception.

So when setizens tick off "none" for "country" in "account info" you believe that they're Aliens?
When your position is weak Change the Subject.

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What is Intelligent Design?
It's God having One Brain Storm in a Million Brain Farts.

This thread is heading to being a flame fest, so is now taking a time out.

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?