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Message 1403671 - Posted: 15 Aug 2013, 22:03:48 UTC

From a phrase it the IT/Computer Education thread, where it could be thought to be a problem only found in America. I can assure them it is not, it is a world wide phenomenon.

So why does the majority of the world's population prefer to watch mindless garbage?
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Message 1403684 - Posted: 15 Aug 2013, 22:38:26 UTC - in response to Message 1403671.  

From a phrase it the IT/Computer Education thread, where it could be thought to be a problem only found in America. I can assure them it is not, it is a world wide phenomenon.

So why does the majority of the world's population prefer to watch mindless garbage?

It hurts them to think, so mindless is better! Unfortunately they treat elections the same way.

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Message 1403727 - Posted: 16 Aug 2013, 2:29:31 UTC

I'm more inclined to wonder why supposedly HIghly Intelligent Atheists Develop and Produce The Garbage. Certainly these Brainiacs can Use Their Time for The Betterment of Humankind, than to Add To Its Demise with Garbage They Produce.

Can't these HIgh IQ Atheists Think of Anything Better To Do?

But Hey, keep Producing The Garbage. It Makes Money and The Driving Force for Such Intellects.

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Message 1403747 - Posted: 16 Aug 2013, 3:16:13 UTC - in response to Message 1403727.  

I'm more inclined to wonder why supposedly HIghly Intelligent Atheists Develop and Produce The Garbage.

I've heard Hollywood called a lot of things, many vulgar slang for one religion, which supposedly runs Hollywood and the studios, words which the rules don't permit me to repeat, but I've never heard them called atheists.

As to why, are you so dense you don't understand bell curves, lowest common denominators, marketing and the profit motive? If you call it garbage, you should get this as you should be on the high side of the curve ...

Just so it is fresh ...


The goal of programming is to sell advertisements. The goal of advertising is to sell product. The study of what works in an advertisement falls into the marketing classification. What works marketing wise for a moron is not the same as a genius. It is much harder to convince a genius to buy something they don't have a need for or that does not have objective material to compare between manufacturers. This part of the IQ curve is written off as undesirable by the marketing folks who buy the advertising. But you can use emotional pitches to a moron to convince him he has a need when in reality he does not.

The TV executive wants the most people possible to watch the show. If he aims it dead center in the chart, IQ 100, then he risks people below his aim point "getting" the show. But if he aims lower say IQ 70, he picks up a huge segment of the bell curve, but he does risk loosing a segment far on the high end as they would consider the show garbage. But his customer has already tole him those people aren't the ones they want.

If he aims lower still say IQ 50, he picks up even more but also loses more on the high end. There is a balance point somewhere where he maximizes the audience that the advertiser wishes. This is the point he has to aim his shows appeal towards. Unfortunately, that is somewhere near the moron level of IQ, which explains the main stream garbage that comes out of Hollywood.

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Message 1403830 - Posted: 16 Aug 2013, 9:26:47 UTC - in response to Message 1403828.  

You might say that an IQ of 100 is not particularly bright but consider that in the UK the government want 50% to go into higher education.

Some of those with an IQ over 100 will not go into higher education, so it will be necessary for some of those with an IQ below 100 to go into higher education for the 50% figure to be met.
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Message 1403832 - Posted: 16 Aug 2013, 9:31:26 UTC

Isn't a Bell curve a Gaussian distribution?
A Poisson distribution is usually used for estimating the probability of an event occurring in a given time period.
A Gaussian distribution shows the likelihood of an event occurring close to the mean value.
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Message 1403864 - Posted: 16 Aug 2013, 11:42:48 UTC - in response to Message 1403851.  
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Forced education to 18 will likely fail at the first hurdle when Johnney at age 17 is told to stop talking in class. Likely he will fold his arms and say make me. Got any ideas for dealing with that?

Slip Copper Sulphate in his drinking bottle, that'll shut him up.

On a serious note, i agree with you. My favourite part of doing A levels years ago was that all the kids who didn't want to be there weren't any more, leaving the rest of us who wanted to learn to do so in peace.
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Message 1403881 - Posted: 16 Aug 2013, 12:40:20 UTC - in response to Message 1403864.  

My favourite part of doing A levels years ago was that all the kids who didn't want to be there weren't any more, leaving the rest of us who wanted to learn to do so in peace

That was the bit I had to convince my youngest about. That took a lot of time and effort, until about half way through his first day.
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Message 1403890 - Posted: 16 Aug 2013, 13:14:25 UTC - in response to Message 1403851.  

Until all governments actively support marriage, encourage stable two parent family units


Marriage isn't necessary to have a two-parent family unit.

and give teachers authority to maintain discipline,


If you mean discipline like what I saw while going to school, I would have to steadfastly disagree.
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Message 1403896 - Posted: 16 Aug 2013, 13:21:10 UTC - in response to Message 1403881.  

That was the bit I had to convince my youngest about. That took a lot of time and effort, until about half way through his first day.

I was lucky enough to attend a selective Grammar School, which had already filtered out the lowest echelon. Much happier there than i would have been at the local high school, even though it was considerably further away.
This is why i support selective education. It allows the better pupils to thrive, without being dragged down by the dross who don't want to be there.
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Message 1403986 - Posted: 16 Aug 2013, 19:38:34 UTC - in response to Message 1403978.  

Marriage isn't necessary to have a two-parent family unit.


No it isn't but it is much preferable.

Says who?

Or, ask yourself this which is better two people who want to raise a child together or two people who hate each others guts but are too stupid to get a divorce?

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Message 1404180 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 6:43:12 UTC - in response to Message 1403851.  

You might say that an IQ of 100 is not particularly bright but consider that in the UK the government want 50% to go into higher education.

And we all know why don't we. Because there is a very high proportion of kids leaving mainstream school at 16 with very few or no qualifications and which are unemployable. They hope that by getting 50% into FE it will help as will raising the school leaving age to 18.

This is apparently the official view.

In recent years, it has become apparent that most 16-18 year olds aren't as motivated to continue their education after completion of their GCSEs, thus increasing the overall unemployment rate, as many are unable to find work. The British government is hopeful that by making education compulsory up to the age of 18 by 2013, they can change this attitude.

In reality it i hoped that another 2 years either in FE or mainstream schooling, might get something between their ears. And it keeps the little sods off street corners getting into trouble. My own view is that we will end up having a generation of 18 year olds just as disadvantaged as our current one of 16 year olds.

Until all governments actively support marriage, encourage stable two parent family units, crack down on kids as meal tickets, and give teachers authority to maintain discipline, nothing will change. Forced education to 18 will likely fail at the first hurdle when Johnney at age 17 is told to stop talking in class. Likely he will fold his arms and say make me. Got any ideas for dealing with that?





Here in NY state a kid can quit school on his own at 16. However the parent is still legally liable for the jerk untill he is 21 or gainfully employed. Married or joins the service. Why the hell can a kid quit school on his own before he is considerd a legal adult? In this state you cant drink till your 21. you cant vote till your 18. But you can tell your parents and the school and the state you quit school. WTF.
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Message 1404185 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 6:48:08 UTC - in response to Message 1404180.  

But you can tell your parents and the school and the state you quit school. WTF.

Left over from an older age when there was a need for child labor ...

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Message 1405028 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 13:44:39 UTC - in response to Message 1404238.  

The upshot of all this is that if underage kids want to have sex, smoke, and drink, then there is nothing anyone can do to stop them. Probably always been that way, but the law doesn't help to try to curb it.

They'd be removing a very important chunk of the kid's education if they tried.
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Message 1405134 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 17:47:59 UTC - in response to Message 1405128.  

Is that the sort of education you'd be happy for your kids to have?

Better to learn it early than not learn it until it bites them.

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Message 1405156 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 18:28:29 UTC - in response to Message 1405128.  

Is that the sort of education you'd be happy for your kids to have?



Hey, it got me this far.

My point being we can't let schooling get in the way of education. Schools, by themselves, cannot and do not fully educate a person. There is still a big role for parent(s),and peers, and hard knocks.

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Message 1405229 - Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 20:25:06 UTC - in response to Message 1405226.  

It's the government's responsibilty to govern, the parent's responsibility to raise, and the school's responsibility to educate.

If all three can actually work together, then maybe, just maybe, matters can improve.
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Message 1405470 - Posted: 20 Aug 2013, 9:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 1405128.  

Is that the sort of education you'd be happy for your kids to have?

Never did me any harm.
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