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Message 1404257 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 9:59:34 UTC - in response to Message 1404254.  
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And if you leave out the lit and peace ones?

We all should do, they aren't real prizes are they, just political and social niceties. You get a world renowned prize for writing a book? That should be relegated to the Pulitzer Prize. The Nobel awards are in the categories of Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, Literature, Peace, and Economic sciences. In my view the Peace prize has been devalued in recent years. It was well earned in 1993 by Nelson Mandela, but Jimmy Carter in 2002, Obama in 2009, and the EU in 2012 have debased it. Far too much back slapping going on.


So, it's one per 4.6 million then.

Or maybe as 2 per 4.6 million if you count George Bernard Shaw, besides his Lit prize he did found the London School of Economics.
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Message 1404458 - Posted: 17 Aug 2013, 21:39:37 UTC - in response to Message 1403993.  

The Irish republic, population 4.6 million, United Kingdom, population 64 million

Eire only has 7 Nobel laureates, the UK has 119.

Irish = 1 Nobel per 657,000 population.

UK = 1 Nobel per 538,000 population.

I would say that was fairly close.




Yep, I'd call it the rule of three:)
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Message 1405670 - Posted: 20 Aug 2013, 22:10:53 UTC
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Certain religious groups - you know who you are - promote celibacy for their "brightest" adherents.

Looks like a program for breeding down to me.

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Message 1405944 - Posted: 21 Aug 2013, 13:21:16 UTC
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Discussions always seem to be rational over here in the science corner...
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Message 1406750 - Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 4:52:02 UTC

Amen.
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Message 1406779 - Posted: 23 Aug 2013, 6:26:22 UTC - in response to Message 1406750.  
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It's Science, (non-Seti). I'm rational most of the time. Amen.

Throw one out into the universe.

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Message 1407716 - Posted: 25 Aug 2013, 22:15:23 UTC

Other than mouthing off is there any proof to the topic of this thread?
Must not conflict resolve by suggesting that someone should go sit on an ice pick...
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Message 1407729 - Posted: 25 Aug 2013, 23:48:11 UTC
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Is this continous discussion still being allowed here?

Whether you or me or someone else is supposed to be intelligent or maybe intelligence may be found around us for that matter, science is supposed to be approached and dealt with by means of a specific angle in order to be objective and serious.

Religion and religious belief is among some or most of us either because it is being taught, or because there is something personal to it, possibly based on life experiences.

Many people who are scientists and therefore doing scientific work happen to be atheists. Therefore, in case you are supposed to be a "believer", you therefore are not supposed to be a good scientist either.

Molecular biologists who are studying the DNA in our cells are well aware of how complex nature in fact may be. There may well be similar or other things present in space which we are not familiar with or aware of. Some people favor small or big crafts, others tend to believe in "angels".

Therefore, in my opinion experience counts and why not bring with you both a little bit of this as well as a little bit of that in order to get a better hand on the whole picture?

In the end, numbers alone may not be the only answer to the big question - namely are we alone in the Universe or not.

If not, "they" are still supposed to be aliens.
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Message 1407751 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 0:32:41 UTC - in response to Message 1407716.  
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Other than mouthing off is there any proof to the topic of this thread?

Read the original post and the link which it contains.
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Message 1407757 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 1:02:34 UTC - in response to Message 1407751.  

Other than mouthing off is there any proof to the topic of this thread?

Read the original post and the link which it contains.


Hmm.... many of us agreed earlier that the discussion was nice and civil. Then ID comes along and claims it's all "mouthing off", and in true ID fashion, completely ignores the evidence given and simply states there's no proof. No wonder we can't have any civil discussions with him around.
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Message 1407758 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 1:12:26 UTC

Religious people are less intelligent than atheists:... nice and civil?
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Message 1407759 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 1:14:15 UTC - in response to Message 1407758.  
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Religious people are less intelligent than atheists:... nice and civil?


It was the findings of a meta-analysis performed on studies taken from 1928 to 2012. Why is this not civil? Because you disagree with it?
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Message 1407765 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 1:54:21 UTC - in response to Message 1407758.  

Religious people are less intelligent than atheists:... nice and civil?

If you had gone and looked at the link, you would have seen it is a shortening of the newspaper article title. That title in full would not have fitted within the space on these boards.

And before you go off on another tangent, take a few notes.
1, I wouldn't have believed it from my contacts with people who hold strong religious beliefs.
2, I was brought up in a former Italian colony where the majority of Europeans were still Italians and went to a school run by the Roman Catholic Church until I was 13.
3, I lived in Italy for over 8 years within 30 miles of the Vatican City.
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Message 1407768 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 2:09:36 UTC

THANK GOD for google! LOL

Google this...."Religious people are less intelligent than atheists."

There are plenty of studies that say something a lot different than what has been posted here. LOL!

Stupid people are, on average, less intelligent than smart people! Bawahahahahaha!


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Message 1407770 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 2:13:33 UTC - in response to Message 1407768.  
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There are plenty of studies that say something a lot different than what has been posted here. LOL!


Guess you still haven't read the original link or the alternative in the 2nd post. Even the researchers said not all studies found this conclusion, but 53 out of 63 did.

P.S. You haven't commented on my synopsis yet.
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Message 1407773 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 2:16:51 UTC - in response to Message 1407757.  
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Hmm.... many of us agreed earlier that the discussion was nice and civil. Then ID comes along and claims it's all "mouthing off", and in true ID fashion, completely ignores the evidence given and simply states there's no proof. No wonder we can't have any civil discussions with him around.

I wondered what was suddenly wrong, why people who were having a college level discussion were suddenly involved with a kindergarten playground fight. Thanks for letting me know.

Shortly I'm sure this entire list will be fully displayed ---
    â—¦argumentum ad antiquitatem
    â—¦argumentum ad hominem
    â—¦argumentum ad ignorantiam
    â—¦argumentum ad logicam
    â—¦argumentum ad misericordiam
    â—¦argumentum ad nauseam
    â—¦argumentum ad numerum
    â—¦argumentum ad populum
    â—¦argumentum ad verecundiam
    â—¦circulus in demonstrando
    â—¦complex question
    â—¦dicto simpliciter
    â—¦naturalistic fallacy
    â—¦nature, appeal to
    â—¦non sequitur
    â—¦petitio principii
    â—¦post hoc ergo propter hoc
    â—¦red herring
    â—¦slippery slope
    â—¦straw man
    â—¦tu quoque


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Message 1407774 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 2:24:02 UTC - in response to Message 1407770.  

There are plenty of studies that say something a lot different than what has been posted here. LOL!


Guess you still haven't read the original link or the alternative in the 2nd post. Even the researchers said not all studies found this conclusion, but 53 out of 63 did.

P.S. You haven't commented on my synopsis yet.


I simply don't trust you. I have read a lot about this since I have made my first post on this thread.

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Message 1407776 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 2:25:52 UTC - in response to Message 1407773.  

Hmm.... many of us agreed earlier that the discussion was nice and civil. Then ID comes along and claims it's all "mouthing off", and in true ID fashion, completely ignores the evidence given and simply states there's no proof. No wonder we can't have any civil discussions with him around.

I wondered what was suddenly wrong, why people who were having a college level discussion were suddenly involved with a kindergarten playground fight. Thanks for letting me know.

Shortly I'm sure this entire list will be fully displayed ---
    â—¦argumentum ad antiquitatem
    â—¦argumentum ad hominem
    â—¦argumentum ad ignorantiam
    â—¦argumentum ad logicam
    â—¦argumentum ad misericordiam
    â—¦argumentum ad nauseam
    â—¦argumentum ad numerum
    â—¦argumentum ad populum
    â—¦argumentum ad verecundiam
    â—¦circulus in demonstrando
    â—¦complex question
    â—¦dicto simpliciter
    â—¦naturalistic fallacy
    â—¦nature, appeal to
    â—¦non sequitur
    â—¦petitio principii
    â—¦post hoc ergo propter hoc
    â—¦red herring
    â—¦slippery slope
    â—¦straw man
    â—¦tu quoque



Argumentum ad populum has already been done in this thread.....
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Message 1407782 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 2:34:25 UTC - in response to Message 1407776.  

Argumentum ad populum has already been done in this thread.....


If we accept that there are more believers than non-believers, and if we accept that every believer posting in this thread has stated a disagreement with the findings, then it would seem your statement is incorrect.
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Message 1407784 - Posted: 26 Aug 2013, 2:47:42 UTC - in response to Message 1407774.  

I simply don't trust you.
Why?

I have read a lot about this since I have made my first post on this thread.

Then why don't you enlighten us with a concise report on your findings and include a few links to reputable sites, preferably trustworthy academic ones.
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